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#501 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] I had to remove my own user and add it back, what do I do now? » 2023-08-26 22:19:19

If you used 'adduser' to create the user, the primary group of the same name will be created at the same time. The user will also be added to the users group but will not be added to other groups unless you made some changes to the EXTRA_GROUPS settings in /etc/adduser.conf.

id <username> will show you what groups a user belongs to.

#502 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Crowz 5.0 Daedalus amd64 release » 2023-08-26 12:41:37

Oui,

Please start a new thread for your sudo problem, and please provide any error messages that you got and a description of what did not work.

#503 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No boot device. Press any key to reboot machine » 2023-08-25 11:40:16

It sounds like you installed the bootloader to the flash drive instead of the internal hard drive or didn't install the bootloader at all.

Boot the system with the flash drive plugged in. Open a terminal and as root (or with sudo) run fdisk -l to see which drive is which. I assume this system uses legacy bios boot. If it's uefi, we need to talk more before you do anything else.

Then you can run grub-install and update-grub. Assuming that fdisk tells you that /dev/sda is your internal hard drive, run the following.

grub-install /dev/sda
update-grub

Change sda to whatever is really your first hard drive if it's not showing drives in the right order. Sometimes booting from usb results in a mis-match between what grub sees and what the kernel sees.

Then you should be able to reboot and start the system without the flash drive.

#504 Re: Installation » Looking for server cd desktop environment installation guide » 2023-08-25 11:06:42

I find a server with libre office odd.  Even a browser.  Well, that's off topic.

Not off-topic, but relevant to this discussion. The  task-*-desktop packages pull in everything that most people would expect or want to be in a desktop computer. Run apt depends task-cinnamon-desktop to see what it wants either through Depends or Recommends (which you just learned how to avoid),

Trying to remove some of those extra packages may be difficult - it might want to remove half the system. An alternate approach is to install the base system and then install the desktop components after you reboot into the system. Then you could install cinnamon-desktop-environment to get the desktop without things like libreoffice. The hard part of doing it this way is figuring out what packages you want. It takes longer, but you get exactly what you want.

#505 Re: DIY » Chimaera Minimal Live ISO Customization Question » 2023-08-23 12:54:22

czeekaj,

I recently changed something in refractasnapshot regarding encryption. In 10.3.0 (in daedalus) you can turn off the initrd check for encryption support because cryptsetup changed. There's no longer an option in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf for CRYPTSETUP=y. I'm pretty sure this applies to Chimaera, too. Look in /etc/refractasnapshot.conf for more details.

Here's that section in the conf file:

# Change this to "no" (or comment it) to turn off all initrd checks. 
# In Bookworm/Daedalus use this instead of initrd_crypt=yes 
# if you want encrypted persistence. Make sure to have all necessary
# cryptsetup packages installed.
initramfs_checks="yes"
# Prepare the initrd to support encrypted volumes. Uncomment this
# if you plan to use the snapshot on a live usb with an encrypted
# persistent volume. This will edit /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook
# to set CRYPTSETUP=y (This does not work right in Bookworm/Daedalus)

#initrd_crypt="yes"

For xfs support you need to install something in the system, and it will be included in the snapshot. When it comes to installing with refractainstaller, pre-format your xfs partitions and tell the install not to format.

For multiple grub types, the way I deal with it is to have grub-efi-amd64 and efibootmgr installed, also all of the grub-*-bin packages installed, and then put the deb packages for grub-pc and grub-efi-ia32 in the root of the filesystem before you make the snapshot. If you boot in bios mode, the installer will ask if you want to copy grub-pc and install the bootloader. I don't know anything about grub-coreboot, but if it's a replacement for grub-pc, you could include the deb package and install it manually at the proper time or maybe edit the script to use it. (I'd have to look at my code to recall how/where to do that.)

#506 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] refractainstaller connect to existing home folder » 2023-08-20 02:11:54

I'm glad you asked before doing it. Yes, it will format the partition you choose for /home. You're better off installing the entire system to one partition and then making the changes manually after the install. If you need help with those steps, just ask, and I'll answer after I sleep.

It is possible to set the installer not to format any partitions, and you could format the root partition manually ahead of time, but the installer will still copy desktop configs from the live system to your home, and you might not want it to do that all at once.
The no-format option is a checkbox in the graphical installer and a config file option for the cli installer. It applies to all selected partitions - you can't select individual partitions to be formatted. It's all or none.

#507 Re: Installation » Daedalus ISOs don't boot » 2023-08-17 15:08:05

For me, amd64 netinstall iso work on bare metal in bios or uefi modes.

I can't get that iso to boot in qemu or virtualbox in uefi, but bios mode works.
The sfdisk activate trick didn't help.
If I attached the cdrom to the sata interface in vbox, I could hit ESC and then exit to get to the uefi menu that includes "Boot from file" but I couldn't get any files to boot.

I can't get the rc5 netinstall iso to boot in uefi mode in qemu or vbox.

For the hardware boots, I used a usb stick prepared with dd.

#508 Re: Installation » Devuan 5.0 netinstall failed [loading boot loader] » 2023-08-16 12:08:58

Choose 'Expert install' from the boot menu of the installer isos and you will get more questions, including one that allows you to proceed without installing a bootloader.

#509 Re: Installation » Devuan 5.0 netinstall failed [loading boot loader] » 2023-08-15 23:15:08

it fails trying to install the bootloader.  It fails before I can select UEFI or MBR.

The bootloader section of the installer does not give you a choice of uefi or bios. That choice is made when you boot the system. You can check this by booting the installer media and when you get to the first screen asking about locale, press alt-F2 to open a shell and run ls /sys/firmware/efi and if that directory exists, you booted in uefi mode.

If the boot device menu doesn't exist or doesn't give you a choice between legacy or uefi for the usb, then check your motherboard settings for the boot order or possibly whether to use legacy or uefi first on removable media.

#510 Re: Installation » Devuan 5.0 netinstall failed [loading boot loader] » 2023-08-15 20:59:47

The isos will boot on uefi or bios systems depending on what the motherboard is set to do. When you boot some removable media, bring up the boot device menu and make sure you select a legacy boot option, not the uefi option. Just setting the board to boot usb or DVD first in the bios settings might not be enough to get it to boot the way you want.

#511 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Luks decrypt home on boot with key and fallback password » 2023-08-15 16:53:18

If i do not plug in the stick, then the boot process runs fine to the end but of course without /home mounted....

Maybe a script started by rc.local at the end of boot that checks to see if /home is mounted, and if it is not, it runs 'cryptsetup open <whatever>' and asks for the password. If your boot process without the usb stick is landing at a graphical login screen, you'll probably need to disable the display manager. Maybe the same script that mounts /home could start the DM, too.

Edit: Something like this. I didn't test this but I think it will work. Adjust the names for your setup.Disable the display manager in runlevel 2 using update-rc.d or sysv-rc-conf

#!/bin/sh

if grep -q '/dev/mapper/<name>' /proc/mounts ; then
	/etc/init.d/<display-manager> start
else
	cryptsetup open /dev/whatever  <name>
	mount /dev/mapper/<name>  <mountpoint>
	/etc/init.d/<display-manager> start
fi

exit 0

#512 Re: Devuan » Is Devuan Daedalus Changing to "Stable"? » 2023-08-14 20:27:29

You noticed! It's been less than an hour since the repo links got changed. So yeah, we are in the midst of the change. Give the mirrors a couple hours to catch up. When we're sure everything else is in place, the website will be updated and there will be an official announcement. Stable installer isos and live isos are already in place.

#513 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 daedalus gnome wayland doesn't work with nvidia » 2023-08-14 18:32:21

Are you trying to migrate debian stretch to devuan or are you on some other release of debian? The instructions for migration are not the same for every release. And sometimes you have to do something different from the instructions. Say more about what you're doing.

#514 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Luks decrypt home on boot with key and fallback password » 2023-08-14 16:10:23

This page might have the answer. It looks like you have to use a keyscript. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/197 … o-keyboard

I've never done that. I use a keyfile, and if the keyfile is doesn't work, I have a keyslot with a passphrase that I can use to fix it (make a new keyfile) after booting a live-CD or live-USB.

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#515 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Devuan, runit and Firewalld » 2023-08-13 17:52:41

already running

I guess your test works. Since it's already running, runit doesn't have to start it or log it. Find out why/how it's running already.

#516 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » desktop grey » 2023-08-13 15:41:47

The xfce configuration files are in /etc/xdg/xfce4/ for the defaults, and any changes the user makes to the desktop are stored in ~/.config/xfce4. Other desktop configs are also in ~/.config.

One thing you can try is to move the configs out of the way, log out and log in again. That will make it like the very first login. Then you can inspect the old configs to see if something changed.

#517 Re: Other Issues » Virus scanning on Devuan » 2023-08-04 09:23:14

Devuan Daedalus is the same as Debian Bookworm. We use the exact same kernel.

$ grep -i fanotify /boot/config-6.1.0-9-amd64 
CONFIG_FANOTIFY=y
CONFIG_FANOTIFY_ACCESS_PERMISSIONS=y

Looks like it's in Chimaera, too.

$ grep -i fanotify /boot/config-5.10.0-23-amd64 
CONFIG_FANOTIFY=y
CONFIG_FANOTIFY_ACCESS_PERMISSIONS=y

#518 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall - no DE » 2023-08-02 16:34:43

It ;probably means that you still have some debian repository enabled in /etc/apt/source.list/ or sources.list.d/

The version it says will be installed is the version currently in trixie (debian testing).

Make sure you use codenames in sources.list. (i.e. daedalus) not "stable" or "testing".

Run 'apt update' after any changes in your sources.

#519 Re: Devuan » Why are systemd files present in Devuan? » 2023-08-01 17:23:08

"Systemd 254 is already available in Arch-Testing, Debian and, oddly enough, Devuan-Unstable,

Nope.

root@devuan:/home/user# aptitude -s install systemd
No candidate version found for systemd   
Unable to apply some actions, aborting
root@devuan:/home/user# apt policy libc6
libc6:
  Installed: 2.36-9
  Candidate: 2.36-9
  Version table:
     2.37-6 10
         500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2.36-9 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
root@devuan:/home/user# apt policy systemd
systemd:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
root@devuan:/home/user# grep -v ^# /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main

#520 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-07-31 10:52:32

I don't see it either. That's weird - they have i386 for 78, 102 and 115, but they skipped 91. You might find a suitable version somewhere else. I don't know if Mozilla makes old versions available, or maybe some brownish distro has one that works.

#522 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-07-30 17:30:16

I've been playing with an ASUS EEE this week, trying to figure out what software to use on it. There's an old Refracta Jessie on it that runs fine, but daedalus is slow. Anyway, I'm posting this from the firefox-esr I just installed after increasing my swapfile to 2G (same as the RAM). Scrolling is a little choppy, but it seems to be working ok. Only two tabs are open, so I'm not even using half my RAM. Youtube video is choppy, but the audio is smooth. I think the cpu is the limiting issue.

#523 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-07-30 12:37:00

I like links2 for lightweight graphical browsing. It makes the internet look like 1995, which I find very soothing.

#524 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 14:41:52

I've seen the disk order change when booting with usb in some cases such that what was /dev/sda when booting from internal drive is called some other device name in the installer.

#525 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 11:03:57

For some reason I had it in my head/was convinced that is was loading to RAM ...  8^°
I wonder where I got that from?

Live isos can boot the entire iso into RAM. That's an option in live-boot that isn't available in the installer isos. Add "toram" or maybe "toram=filesystem.squashfs" to the boot command for a live-usb and then it's not running from the usb stick. You could even remove the usb stick and keep running the system. Booting that way might allow you to install over the imaged usb, but then you have to get it right the first time or else start over with imaging the stick.

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