Nah, I'll stick with XLibre.

While Ceres isn't a "real" Devuan release, it is still the foundation of every new release. The more folks who use Ceres, the more they can help Devuan's developers and maintainers.

I don't track Ceres anymore (I switched it to Daedalus in early 2023 when it was in the testing freeze), but anytime I ran into an issue like that (i.e. unmet dependencies due to a package unavailability), waiting it out for up to a week usually solved the issue. My understanding is that Amprolla (what makes Devuan's repositories) runs several hours behind Debian's servers.

It's kind of a necessary evil in my case. I don't like that it's tied to Red Hat and whatnot, but Connman is unpredictable and harder to set up OpenVPN on, and Wicd is still being rewritten.

Instead, I got a good deal on having a dummy replacement for Elogind (although the libraries are still present), with ConsoleKit2 and Seatd doing the actual seat management. This exact method also worked for me in Salix (a Slackware derivative), but on the condition that Elogind as a package remained installed for compatibility reasons only (i.e. it doesn't run at all, but it could if I enabled it). No issues there, either.

Personally, I got rid of Udisks2 (which also gets rid of GVfs) and have my USB flash drives automatically mount with the help of Udevil's Devmon running on a non-root level, optionally doing this through SpaceFM (for quick and efficient syncing and unmounting functionality baked in). Never had any issues that way, and I use a plugin for trash functionality.

See also this article on why Udisks2 is crap and is only just another Red Hat subversion (much like Systemd and Wayland). Still true fourteen years later.

Cheers.

I think a bare install of Devuan with antiX scripts tossed in for good measure makes for a minimal system. Remove DEs and stick to a WM like i3 or DWM. Your only issue might be sticking with a browser that can access most of the modern Web, since Firefox and Chromium are heavy on GTK dependencies and will likely pull in D-Bus if installed "normally". Pale Moon and SeaMonkey are somewhere in between minimalism and usability.

I share the same sentiments as Andre4freedom. Your contributions are always welcomed.

I also think Steve_V was incredibly rude in his responses to Greenjeans. There was no need for the putdown, let alone on someone who actually contributes code and hardly ever complains. There are a couple of others who'd warrant such treatment, but not him.

I can't stand GTK at all anymore, but at least it's more viable for a uniformed system. If you use Xfce, stick to GTK. If you use LXQt, stick to Qt. Mixing the two tends to draw in more system resources than not. Unfortunately, all GUI toolkit "options" are problematic in their own ways.

An encrypted file (locally) or USB flash drive by means of VeraCrypt or something else works fine. I've never had a use case for password managers, and what Altoid's original post describes is a part of that reason why.

No, LXDE still exists in many distros (Debian included). It's just that they switched it over to GTK3, so it will consume a bit more of your system resources. Stick to the Daedalus release for now, which is also the last to support 32-bit CPUs.

@laurie_dev1:

It's possible to remove the D-Bus daemon and get a pretty lean desktop, but if you want every single part of it (e.g. libraries) gone, you'll pretty much have nothing to work with. I experimented with this in a VM, and it's pretty bleak if you do it. Dillo is the only "graphical" Web browser that actually does survive this purge.

There was/is an experimental Refracta ISO from the Beowulf era that removes as much D-Bus as possible, using SpaceFM with LXDE's panel in place of Xfce. Perhaps Fsmithred could upload it again for your curiosity.

Udisks2: Another Loss For Linux

Couldn't Salix's live installer be ported to a Debian-based distro? I like that it's easy on the eyes with all the essentials on one screen to use to configure what you need, which cuts straight to the point.

Bumping this four-year-old thread to recommend the installation of dummy-logind (introduced since Chimaera) so that you don't have to worry about losing your entire DE (especially KDE and NetworkManager stuff). It should be possible to also keep Udisks2 and the other stuff, but ConsoleKit2 will still have to be your session manager in place of Elogind. Pkexec might freeze your system, so do it from console or switch to something like LXQt-Sudo.

I've been running this setup for the past year with very little problems. Using Udevil's Devmon for rootless auto-mounts and SpaceFM for manually unmounting (among other things, like using a script to regain trash functionality lost by removing GVfs originally).