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This site simply serves as a platform for pushing the admin's ideology - "views". That's what they mostly contribute here. Devuan project is just the vehicle. It's supposed to "about Devuan" but there those views are, over and over again... if you don't belive me, please search and you will find their ideological postings scattered throughout.
Those who don't share the ideology are treated as deluded lesser life forms. I can see right through the thin veneer of condescension and superiority. There is certainly an affinity with nazis, as like those who support extermination of populations depopulation or steralisation in order to "improve" the situation for a chosen select few, they're a vocal proponent of depopulation, as with many people like Bill Gates.
@headstick, wanted to tell you earlier - you traded "donald" for something worse in coming here, so good luck with that...
I no longer care - have fun.
@Ralph, no hard feelings, but you feed the monster hoping it eats you last. Please delete my account. I have no reason to come back.
Gee blackhole, project much?
Thank you for so clearly revealing the bias for all to see.
Ralph yes I'll strive for the three Ps, while your lunatic fringe, right wing crony gets free reign ...
You might not like his disdain for hairy cross-dressing wait-staff, but that does not make him lunatic fringe or even right wing particularly. A lot is changing very fast, and it feels very weird and forced at times. But, as golinux remarked above, this forum is about Devuan, not identity politics or any other politics. Re-read her post and chill.
I guess it's a bit of nostalgia mixed with pure nerdiness, but I've been reading though old Compute! Gazette Magazines at archive.org
Maybe I've been watching to much of "Adrian’s Digital Basement" and "8-bit guy"
One of my actual duties in my first computer job was to read Compute! Gazette (and BYTE, and all those late 70's early 80's mags) and report my impressions to management about what was going on in the biz. Some pretty bizzarro advertising! Those were the days! The microcomputer 'industry' was just beginning to shake itself out, and then along came the IBM PC...
I never did care for KDE anything, and I've actually tried over the years - those folks seem to think on a very different wavelength than me. TBH, I never cared much for XFCE either - I've been using MATE for years. It is probably too 'heavy' for some, though not that much more than XFCE. It is a full DE - it is the fork of Gnome 2.
It seems to me that a simple WM-based option at install time would be welcome for those with older/resource-limited HW. A nicely set up IceWM or something like that, or one of the *box wm's? I mean, you can install just about anything on Devuan after the fact, but setting it up to be decent looking and reasonably functional sometimes seems a bit fiddly. A nicely setup WM at installation would be a useful offering it seems.
sgage wrote:Or get a Windows machine. Now go to a Windows tech help forum and be amazed. Clearly not ready for the desktop!
i am using windows 25years, windows have much less issues compare ti linux, and many issues resolved without support
sgage wrote:Seriously, your last whining post was about glitches in Ceres, which is unstable, and is not meant for production use.
Proof?! For my old pc unstable works faster than stable.
sgage wrote:You can walk away from Linux any time you like. Every penny will be refunded :-)
Away? I am can not even come close because so many issues.
Whatever you say.
Look at all my topics here. Only issues! linux NOT READY YET FOR DESKTOP USING!
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So go get a Mac. Of course, Apple controls every aspect of the hardware and software. Even with that, check out an Apple help forum. Clearly, Mac is not ready for the desktop.
Or get a Windows machine. Now go to a Windows tech help forum and be amazed. Clearly not ready for the desktop!
Seriously, your last whining post was about glitches in Ceres, which is unstable, and is not meant for production use.
This is a support/tech help forum, and so what you see are people's issues. For what it's worth, I don't experience any of these. Of course I have experienced others, especially when I dabble in testing/ceres.
You can walk away from Linux any time you like. Every penny will be refunded :-)
I did not find it with blkid, but I found that ls -altr /sbin/mount.ntfs gives
/sbin/mount.ntfs -> mount.ntfs-3g
So everything is OK.
I might have meant 'cat /etc/mtab' instead of blkid - thought blkid gave the info. But glad it's all good...
Worst case is a new installation ... . Anyway.
Probably you want to migrate to daedalus?
It is closer to ceres.
FWIW, I have zero issues with daedalus - been using it for some time. (I use MATE)
How to find which ntfs driver is in use and how to use fuse instead of paragon?
blkid will tell you what fs driver is being used.
Devuan has always used the fuse driver (ntfs-3g) by default, as far as I can tell.
I am not drunk and I am not doing any drugs (which you inferred, implied.)
Winnie the poo said that sourness and bitterness come from interfering and unappreciative minds.
The Stoics said;
Gods and sages do not study philosophy because they are wise.
Stupid people do not study philosophy because they think they are wise.
People who know they are better than stupid try to be lovers of wisdom (I forget the precise wording of that translation of that line.)People are fools, slaves, morally viscious, unfortunate, summed up, mad.
sgage, I regard your attitude as totally violent, I will report you right now.
You are raving. Good-night.
sgage piss of wasting stealing OUR time fool find something different to do
Yep, drunk alright. You have stolen enough of OUR time already.
I think andyp67 is drunk. Or something.
Ogis1975 wrote:Personally, I don't trust any search engines developed in the West.
To see Magadan or Vorkuta or Bucha with your own eyes today, and all Marxism will come off like a husk ...
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sgage wrote:When I typed 'apt-mark' yesterday, I got 'command not found'. Today it's working.
From experience the most likely explanation is that you misspelt it yesterday. I've learnt to take a hard look at what I typed if I get that error.
Have you still got the screen output? Or does your command history show you what you really typed?
If it's not that could your PATH have been altered to not include /usr/bin?
I will check the command history - I suspect a misspelling. My aging eyes are not what they used to be...
Huh? apt-mark is included with apt, it's never been a separate package AFAIK.
cat /etc/devuan_version chimaera
dpkg -S `which apt-mark` apt: /usr/bin/apt-mark
Thanks for the reply. When I typed 'apt-mark' yesterday, I got 'command not found'. Today it's working. Not sure what happened, but thanks for making me look again...
There used to be a utility called apt-mark that easily let you mark packages that are marked for auto-removal as manually installed. It is not in the repos as far as I can tell (chimaera). A highly useful tool if you want to remove some undesirable package that depends on many other key packages that you don't want removed. I used it a lot back in the day, but it seems to have disappeared. Though if you 'man apt' and search for 'mark' it is mentioned.
It is an invaluable tool if you're trying to lean down your system, and I'd dearly love to have it back.. What happened to it, and where can I find it?
TIA
I had dabbled in XFCE periodically since its inception, never much cared for it on aesthetic and functional grounds. When Devuan happened, I really tried to warm up to it, since it was Devuan's default DE, but just couldn't roll with it.
KDE gives me the willies - can't put my finger on it, but again, I have tried to 'like' it, but it just doesn't mesh with me, or something. Just too much. Hard to articulate.
For my main daily driver, I have been using MATE for many years, with its stock top panel and a Plank dock in lieu of a bottom panel. It works perfectly for me, for what I do. If the MATE project gets too gnome-y, I'll probably just go to OpenBox or something. I happily used IceWM for years, for that matter.
Thank you
The Zoom deb package I recently got from their website works fine for me on Chimaera.
Hello Forum....
Just a general question.....if Debian Releases a point release.
About how long does it take for that to make its way in to Devuan.... if at all..
Just curious....Thank you ! In advance
A 'point release' in Debian simply means that they've updated the installation media to include all updates since the last point release (or original release). If you're doing a fresh install, this means less post-install updating to do. If you've been updating your system all along, you already have the point release. If you use the net install, it doesn't matter so much - at the end of the installation you have the latest updates of everything.
Just to be sure:
Devuan's "stable" is a link currently pointing at "chimaera"
Devuan's "testing" is a link currently pointing at "daedalus", and
Devuam's "ceres" is a link pointing at "unstable".
It's typically as stable to use Devuan's "unstable" as it is to use Debian's "unstable" ("sid"), because most of Devuan's packages come unaltered from Debian. Mostly it works well (better?) to run a "chimaera" installation and only add in "daedalus" packages where necessary and possible.
Ron, you're so right! I meant to say that Daedalus is my daily driver, and is very stable for my use case. And that packages get into Daedalus from Ceres fairly quickly. Sorry for the confusion! Too much 4th o' July celebration, or something...
Hey y'all, today I installed Devuan again. In the past weeks I got some issues with audio (alsa, pulseaudio, pipewire) on Debian and Debian-based distros -- sadly, Devuan was no exception. Although I tried much things out to get the stuff working, nothing worked besides updating to the testing/unstable branches. So I did this with Devuan too and moved to Ceres through Daedalus. Now I'm on a so called "unstable" Devuan system with these active lines in /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main non-free contribComing from Debian unstable and Artix I think this shouldn't go too bad..
So my question to you: Do you have any experiences with running Devuan Ceres as a daily driver?
I use Chimaera as my daily driver, and it feels like stable to me. I check out Ceres once in a while, and it seems solid at the moment, but why not use Chimaera? Packages move from unstable to testing quite quickly, and it seems to be a bit more coherent. But whatever floats your boat.
Thank you, Head_on_a_Stick,
Great.
Any idea what the dock could be?Have a nice weekend.
It looks like it could be Plank, which is what I use.
Just for grins (and after backing up my system), I installed the usrmerge package just to see what would happen. Everything seems fine. I rebooted, everything still seems fine. I will report if anything comes up, but why would it?
Thank you @fsmithred,
here what I got from the terminal ( ~/Desktop )
. Atom.AppImage bash: .: Atom.AppImage: cannot execute binary file
I'm Running Duvean Chimaera 4.0
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Does someone have the link of a working .Appimage to se if it run on my system and therefore see if it's was Atom.Appimage that was buggy or my system
Thanks
I occasionally run the balenaEtcher appimage without issue (it is a USB writer). There's a download button on their home page:
It downloads a zip file containing the appimage.
Almost to the day, 12 years later, I lost my first dog, Guinevere (Geneva) a Shih Tzu on 08 Jan 2022. She died from renal failure, my veterinarian diagnosed her with renal (kidney) failure when she first showed signs of the disease, more than 3 years ago. A slow process of death, and yet the symptoms came and went, and she bounces back. She had several episodes closely together after Thanksgiving, her birthday. Knew that something was terminal, just didn't want to accept that of my best canine friend.
A young lady was a bit more than a casual admirer, presented her as a gift and a goodbye after 10 years of failing to step into my 4th marriage. However, she did drop off 2 more dogs and all around Thanksgiving time. Geneva was more symbolic than just a pet.
First time, despite numerous marriages, partner live ins, family. Spent way too many years away somewhere... all come and go.
Now, I know what it's like to have my heart truly broken!
Geneva, has a sister (Sophia) born 1 year after her, and on, yup Thanksgiving.
Black, white with large dark blue eyes. Unusual!
Geneva was my sidekick, rode shotgun everywhere. Now in the fall/winter of my life...she will be truly missed!
https://imgur.com/YMY8sAnl.png
cheers
zephyr
I am very much a dog person, and I understand. For the last 30 years, I've always had at least 2 dogs, usually 3, and sometimes 5. I remember every one of them, and they're all buried on the property here. Many breeds, many abilities. German Shepherds are one thing, Border Collies are another. Always a Lab in the mix. So many adventures and memories! So much love! Saying good-bye is a built-in part of being an HC (that's what they call us - Human Companions)
Most (but not all) of our dogs have been rescues, including a German Shepherd who was tied to a tree at a highway rest area and abandoned. One suspects there is an exceptionally hot place prepared for someone who would do that.
One of my best dogs was an old GSD actually named Zephyr. His owner was engaged to be married, and his fiancee made him get rid of him! Can you imagine marrying such a human...
Anyway, memory eternal to our faithful canine friends. The dog-human relationship goes back to the beginning, and might have made us human...