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#26 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-11 08:43:47
with respect to the relatively recent(historically speaking) su/substitute_user/switch_user/etc kerfuffle
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/460478/debian-su-and-su-path-differences
#27 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Can't run Devuan Excalibur on Software Raid » 2025-11-11 07:47:18
Welcome to the forum.
this happened recently(no idea if it will help in your specific situation):
#28 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Why does Trixie/Excalibur have two Nvidia driver versions (535 / 550)? » 2025-11-10 08:12:42
a thread that might be interesting:
https://www.linux.org/threads/confused-about-nvidia-driver-versions.50056/
tl;dr: a single post:
https://www.linux.org/threads/confused-about-nvidia-driver-versions.50056/post-231555
#29 Re: Installation » Running QEMU/KVM with runit » 2025-11-10 07:04:26
was curious...looked...figured i might as well share the link:
#30 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Can't suspend, reboot, or shut down in a WM » 2025-11-08 13:46:02
searched and picked the first one that may/might fit the usage(no personal experience)
https://linuxiac.com/antix-23-systemd-free-linux-distro-released-based-on-debian-12/
#31 Re: Installation » Everything is working perfectly, thanks community » 2025-11-08 09:34:05
new stuff for waldo
#32 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-06 10:00:54
while looking for tailscale references/commentary/notes/etc on the forum i came across this specific post:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=57261#p57261
which referenced /lib/init/init-d-script and so i went and saw that a bit of it referenced "mountnfs.sh" with some content/context referencing the words "after" and "before" and so i post the snippet of code here below:
# PATH should only include /usr/* if it runs after the mountnfs.sh
# script. Scripts running before mountnfs.sh should remove the /usr/*
# entries.
PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/binalso at the end of /lib/init/init-d-script there was a reference to:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=822753#53
and that link drops one into the midst of just one of many "discussions" which seem not so distant from some of those on this forum...(*cough* hat-tip @steve_v)
as always, ymmv.
edited to add: also wanted to quote a snippet from message#36 in the same above noted "discussion"
Wait, no. There is. See #427889 and policy 9.3.2. By the way, seems
#427889 could be closed...Also, by just common sence, program that return 0 in case of failure is
bad, very bad. What if I want to call /etc/init.d/{foo} in my own
script?There are scripts around, that pass exit code {rc.local, hostname}; there
are scripts around, that do not (random example - wicd).So either we
* violate LSB and adjust all initscripts to return 0 always.
I strongly oppose.* consider script, that swallows exit code to be buggy. I support it,
but there is a lot of scripts in wild that do so. I do /not/ volonteer
to fix them.All in all, let us remove last line in `init-d-script'.
Dmitry Bogatov may *not* volonteer(sic) to _fix_ them...nevertheless, there be dragons...sigh.
#33 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-06 06:43:28
light reading before bedtime.
https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_borland
more:
https://winworldpc.com/product/borland-pascal/7x
https://winworldpc.com/product/delphi/1x
https://winworldpc.com/product/borland-c/20
https://winworldpc.com/product/borland-c-builder/1x
fun/other:
edited, couldn't resist:
Pamela Anderson / Tool Time Lisa / Baywatch CJ Parker / Barb Wire
#34 Re: Installation » Everything is working perfectly, thanks community » 2025-11-06 05:18:55
re: nsfw
[rolling-eyes] the whole planet is on fire but "omg/flesh/skin/sex/etc" gets the fundies/suits/skirts/ties/etc _jimmies_all_in_a_wad_ [/rolling-eyes]
smh
#35 Re: Installation » Latest Excalibur desktop installer forces LXQt? » 2025-11-04 06:41:40
mostly as a frame of reference with respect to an earlier post, this is from a stock daedalus install, xfce desktop:
devuan@devuan-pc:~$ aptitude why lxqt-session
i task-xfce-desktop Depends slim | lightdm
p lightdm Depends lightdm-gtk-greeter | lightdm-greeter
p x2gothinclient-minidesktop Provides lightdm-greeter
p x2gothinclient-minidesktop Depends mate-desktop-environment-core
p mate-desktop-environment-core Depends mate-notification-daemon (>= 1.26) | notification-daemon
p cinnamon Provides notification-daemon
p cinnamon Depends network-manager-gnome
i A network-manager-gnome Depends policykit-1-gnome | polkit-1-auth-agent
p lxqt-policykit Provides polkit-1-auth-agent
p lxqt-policykit Depends lxqt-session
devuan@devuan-pc:~$ #36 Re: DIY » Using Windows URL files on Linux machines? » 2025-11-04 05:56:23
man xdg-open#38 Re: Freedom Hacks » Devuan without dbus » 2025-11-03 12:46:11
one wonders how much is not absolutely necessary in any case:
devuan@devuan-pc:~$ apt depends luakit
luakit
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34)
Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0)
Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.49.3)
Depends: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.19.12)
Depends: libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 (>= 2.38.2)
Depends: libluajit-5.1-2 (>= 2.0.4+dfsg)
Depends: libluajit2-5.1-2 (>= 2.1~)
Depends: libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.32.2)
Depends: libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.9)
Depends: libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 (>= 2.17.3)
Depends: <lua5.1-filesystem>
lua-filesystem
devuan@devuan-pc:~$ apt depends libgtk-3-0
libgtk-3-0
Depends: adwaita-icon-theme
Depends: hicolor-icon-theme
Depends: shared-mime-info
Depends: libatk-bridge2.0-0 (>= 2.15.1)
Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 2.35.1)
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34)
Depends: libcairo-gobject2 (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: libcolord2 (>= 0.1.10)
Depends: libcups2 (>= 1.7.0)
Depends: libepoxy0 (>= 1.4.3)
Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.12.6)
Depends: libfribidi0 (>= 0.19.7)
Depends: libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 (>= 2.40.0)
Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.59.0)
Depends: libharfbuzz0b (>= 2.2.0)
Depends: libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.45.5)
Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0 (>= 1.44.0)
Depends: libpangoft2-1.0-0 (>= 1.44.0)
Depends: libwayland-client0 (>= 1.20.0)
Depends: libwayland-cursor0 (>= 1.14.91)
Depends: libwayland-egl1 (>= 1.15.0)
Depends: libx11-6 (>= 2:1.4.99.1)
Depends: libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.4.5)
Depends: libxcursor1 (>> 1.1.2)
Depends: libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1)
Depends: libxext6
Depends: libxfixes3
Depends: libxi6 (>= 2:1.2.99.4)
Depends: libxinerama1 (>= 2:1.1.4)
Depends: libxkbcommon0 (>= 0.5.0)
Depends: libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.5.0)
Depends: libgtk-3-common (>= 3.24.38-2~deb12u3)
Recommends: libgtk-3-bin
Recommends: librsvg2-common
Suggests: gvfs
devuan@devuan-pc:~$ apt depends libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
Depends: libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 (= 2.48.5-1~deb12u1)
Depends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-base
Depends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-good
Depends: libgles2
Depends: bubblewrap (>= 0.3.1)
Depends: xdg-dbus-proxy
Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.32.0)
Depends: libatomic1 (>= 4.8)
Depends: libavif15 (>= 0.11.1)
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.35)
Depends: libcairo-gobject2 (>= 1.10.0)
Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: libdrm2 (>= 2.4.107)
Depends: libenchant-2-2 (>= 2.2.3)
Depends: libepoxy0 (>= 1.3)
Depends: libexpat1 (>= 2.1~beta3)
Depends: libflite1 (>= 2.0.0-release)
Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.12.6)
Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.11.1)
Depends: libgbm1 (>= 21.3.0~rc1)
Depends: libgcc-s1 (>= 4.0)
Depends: libgcrypt20 (>= 1.10.0)
Depends: libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0)
Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.70.0)
Depends: libgpg-error0 (>= 1.14)
Depends: libgstreamer-gl1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 (>= 1.22.0)
Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0)
Depends: libgstreamer1.0-0 (>= 1.22.0)
Depends: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.23.0)
Depends: libharfbuzz-icu0 (>= 0.9.9)
Depends: libharfbuzz0b (>= 1.8.6)
Depends: libhyphen0 (>= 2.7.1)
Depends: libicu72 (>= 72.1~rc-1~)
Depends: libjpeg62-turbo (>= 1:1.5.0)
Depends: liblcms2-2 (>= 2.2+git20110628)
Depends: libmanette-0.2-0 (>= 0.1.2)
Depends: libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1)
Depends: libseccomp2 (>= 0.0.0~20120605)
Depends: libsecret-1-0 (>= 0.7)
Depends: libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.69.90)
Depends: libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.7.15)
Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 12)
Depends: libsystemd0
libelogind-compat
Depends: libtasn1-6 (>= 4.14)
Depends: libwayland-client0 (>= 1.20.0)
Depends: libwayland-egl1 (>= 1.15.0)
Depends: libwayland-server0 (>= 1.0.2)
Depends: libwebp7 (>= 1.2.4)
Depends: libwebpdemux2 (>= 1.2.4)
Depends: libwebpmux3 (>= 1.2.4)
Depends: libwoff1 (>= 1.0.0)
Depends: libx11-6
Depends: libxml2 (>= 2.7.4)
Depends: libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.25)
Depends: zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.2)
Recommends: gstreamer1.0-gl
Recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri
Recommends: xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
Recommends: gstreamer1.0-libav
Recommends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad
Suggests: gstreamer1.0-alsa
devuan@devuan-pc:~$ also see this thread for more sadness
#39 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-03 03:44:38
reminded of this gentleman's functionable laptop:
https://imgur.com/gallery/functionable-wsDdXEN
or perhaps an old thread about old pc:
https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,3216.0.html
also:
#40 Re: Installation » Package Numad daemon not working in Devuan » 2025-11-01 05:38:16
doesn't address OP OT but might enlighten those unfamiliar with NUMA:
#41 Re: Off-topic » The “Ensh*ttification” of the Internet » 2025-11-01 05:26:53
also be of possible interest:
https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,27829.0.html
#42 Re: Off-topic » So they asked me what I wanted for helping with the library... » 2025-10-30 13:08:56
Excellent Indeed!
#43 Re: Off-topic » The “Ensh*ttification” of the Internet » 2025-10-30 12:55:16
for an ever-increasing number of planetary humans, their smartphone is their only electric/electronic communications device.
this is especially true for the age ranges from 0 to 40 and for a significant portion of the homeless of any/all age(s).
the insiders used twitter, facebook, and instagram to further divide and conquer the left, the right, and everyone else.
https://www.theverge.com/c/features/23993135/twitter-breaking-news-history
the image at the end of that webpage is interesting.
referencing a sign in that background image "we really shouldn't open the sarcophagus until we've completed all the side quests"
we return you now to your regularly scheduled programming
as always, ymmv.
#44 Re: Devuan Derivatives » why peppermintos? » 2025-10-29 07:19:50
on a subsequent visit to the peppermint sourceforge site i came across this review:
https://sourceforge.net/p/peppermintos/pepos/announcements/thread/e7b922d512/?page=3#7ebe
Jim Ward - 2025-08-13
New to PeppermintOS but not Linux. (Besides, I got my start on an OS360 system back in the day -- huge system with [gasp] 200K magnetic core RAM!!) I started my personal (not work) Linux journey with Mint, moved on to MX and stayed there for years (still use it). But being of a curious mind, I wanted to try other distros to find the right stuff for my aging laptop with its overheating issues. Was looking for lightness and coolness. I've tried AntiX, Sparky Linux, Q4OS (really nice, BTW!), Bunsen Labs, Artix, Linux Lite (not!), Bodhi, Solus, PCLinuxOS, AnduinOS, CachyOS, FunOS (not so much), Devuan, TinyCore, Puppy, maybe some others, but finally, Peppermint OS. It's got the best balance of lightness and usability and aesthetics of all the distros I've tried. I like OpenRC -- kind of a non-systemd thing but enough systemd-like functionality that's much improved on SysVinit, IMHO.
Unless some major upheaval occurs, I'm here to stay!
#46 Re: ARM Builds » Raspberry Pi 5 » 2025-10-29 04:35:59
^^^ @Gnostic, thank you for taking the time and effort to post your experiences and successes! future visitors will appreciate it! kudos.
#47 Re: Off-topic » The “Ensh*ttification” of the Internet » 2025-10-28 16:05:51
couple years ago:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46673#p46673
wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
edited to add this video which is DEFINITELY worth watching as Ms Khan interviews Cory:
Cory Doctorow Discusses Ensh*ttification with Lina M. Khan - 75min-video
#48 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Debian User Forum » 2025-10-28 15:59:31
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=832109
Anti-bot software in place
#1 Post by donald » 2025-10-27 00:44
Hello Everyone,We are attempting to up the ante in our battle with the botnets, expansive AI crawlers and scrapers which tend to slow the forum down to unreasonable connections (I.E. Members and Guests cannot even see the forum).
Guest Views:
Last week we took the step of limiting guest views which did slow down hits on the attack surface, unfortunately this requires complete viewing of threads limited to registered members or new members.Bot Protection:
This week we are trying out Anubis which is an open source web firewall that uses cookies and a combination of heuristics to weigh a valid user connection versus a crawler or bot. This adds another step to the viewing of the forum but not to the logon progress. There are 2 versions of the software, we are trying version I this week and the next week with refinements the other versionThe software will run for a few days.
Notes:
If you are having login issues, allow the forums to set a cookie in your browser as an exception.Feedback:
We will look at the logs to see if this additional step is obstructing members, if you are able to get past the system as a human, a 'hello' in this thread will provide valuable feedback.Thank you,
Donald
haven't researched this yet but there might be a non-javascript-required version?
#49 Re: Other Issues » Apt .sources changes » 2025-10-28 15:41:20
searched DDG-Lite for "apt modernize-sources"(without the quotation marks) and this was one of the offerings on the first page of results:
https://daniel-lange.com/archives/192-Make-apt-shut-up-about-modernize-sources-in-Trixie.html
#50 Re: Other Issues » Only top half of screen works while in Grub » 2025-10-28 14:42:19
what happens when you use a liveusb?
this was one of the results from searching DDG-Lite for "grub only the top half of the screen is active"(no quotations)
keep us posted on your progress!
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