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Impressions from using Brave.
1. During installation, a repository is added and then installed, uninstalled, and updated like a regular deb package, without unnecessary procedures.
2. Brave Rewards, these same tokens, can be disabled, as well as third-party cookies can be blocked.
3. It works without problems and is quite fast.
That's all well and good, but who is your computer trying to communicate with?
This is webrtc - like skype in the browser, and SSRC is the synchronization source, roughly speaking, the old contact.
Regards.
Report about apulse in the middle of the thread.
I had a bad experience using refracta.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=40379#p40379
Therefore, it is safer to format “/” in advance and first install the entire OS along with /home on this partition, and then move to /home on another disk.
Thanks guys for your participation.
I probably didn't convey the point well.
I repeat, on the same computer, with the same DE, the same version of FF in one OS, the sound works through ALSA, on the other it does not.
It's not a matter of DE, there is no sound in the failsafe session.
It's not a matter of settings, I copied the FF profile from openSuse to Devuan, the browser started with it, but again there was no sound.
In itself, this is not a problem for me, there are working alternatives to FF and install crutches in the form of pulse, etc. I won't.
I'm interested in the fact itself
Regards.
The OS must be installed on a clean, formatted “/” partition.
Nothing good will come from a mixture of the old installation and the new one.
Quote from Debian Bug report logs - #1055463
"... Debian has been Canonical's changing room since then..."
Is this our future?
https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/08/ … p_details/
Seems you have vaapitest error
VA-API is enabled by default for Intel GPUs - For other GPUs, set media.ffmpeg.vaapi.enabled to true in about:config
Firefox uses PulseAudio for audio playback and capture. If PulseAudio is not installed, Firefox uses ALSA instead. Note that by default, Firefox blocks all media with sound from playing automatically
Select the Privacy & Security panel and go down to the Permissions section
(or enter autoplay in the Find in Settings search box
media.ffmpeg.vaapi.enabled
I tried it before
There was no sound.
And these are the autoplay settings
Regards.
All this, with the exception of the familiar Mate interface, is already ready.
It's called bionicpup64-8.0 (there is also a 32 bit version).
This is right after loading
root# free
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 3326652 116372 1777872 748580 1432408 2171352
Swap: 4095996 0 4095996
root# uname -a
Linux puppypc31264 4.19.23 #1 SMP Tue Feb 19 15:07:58 GMT 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
root#
For example, vlc requires libgtk-3.so.0.
P.S.
Of course it's up to you, your computer...
But, if you make a minimal set of programs, then why do you need Conky?
The computer itself works great without our constant control, but it’s not a steam engine.
Regards.
That's great, but what does it have to do with Firefox?
Regards.
I've already tried it with apulse, the effect is even more interesting.
Immediately after loading the OS we launch
exec apulse firefox
This information appears
Audio Backend pulse-rust
Max Channels 2
Preferred Sample Rate 44100
Roundtrip latency (standard deviation) ...
Codec Support Information H264 SW
VP8 SW
VP9 SW
AV1 SW
Theora SW
AAC SW
FLAC SW
MP3 SW
Opus SW
Vorbis SW
Wave SW
Output Devices
Name Group Vendor State Preferred Format Channels Rate Latency
default and only sink Enabled All default: S16LE, support: S16LE S16BE F32LE F32BE 2 default: 44100, support: 1 - 384000 0 - 0
Input Devices
Name Group Vendor State Preferred Format Channels Rate Latency
default_source_name Enabled All default: S16LE, support: S16LE S16BE F32LE F32BE 2 default: 44100, support: 1 - 384000 0 - 0
We load the youtube page, there is no sound, moreover, the sound from other programs disappears.
If you first start playing vlc, for example, then its sound is there, but after the subsequent launch of FF with apulse, it loses information about codecs.
Audio Backend pulse-rust
Max Channels 2
Preferred Sample Rate 44100
Roundtrip latency (standard deviation) ...
Codec Support Information
Output Devices
Name Group Vendor State Preferred Format Channels Rate Latency
default and only sink Enabled All default: S16LE, support: S16LE S16BE F32LE F32BE 2 default: 44100, support: 1 - 384000 0 - 0
Input Devices
Name Group Vendor State Preferred Format Channels Rate Latency
default_source_name Enabled All default: S16LE, support: S16LE S16BE F32LE F32BE 2 default: 44100, support: 1 - 384000 0 - 0
vlc continues playing, FF is silent
I downloaded the latest firefox...tar.gz from the mozilla site, the result is the same, no sound device, no sound.
Аnd Brave, another Chrome based one, works with ALSA without problems on two computers.
The computer has two OSes - openSuse 15.4 and Daedalus.
Both are only from ALSA, without pulseaudio.
The FF versions are the same, but openSuse has sound in the browser, but Daedalus does not.
Other Daedalus programs have sound, incl. and in the Brave browser.
There is no sound device defined in the FF Daedalus settings.
Here are the screenshots
Daedalus
Can anyone suggest a solution?
It's the only F'n manual that I could find. I read it like 69 times, but I never could find the answer to my Linux questions...
Probably there was no “human” interface.
...Some folks just need help...
We were all newbies once.
But sometimes we step on our own tail!
Even now, after more than 20 years of using Linux, I, to my shame, do not remember the CLI commands and have to open man.
And if it is possible to use a GUI, I would rather use it.
So maybe it would be more correct to suggest this path to a neophyte than to force him to study RTFM?
OpenSuse has a wonderful Yast, Pclinux has a system configurator, maybe they care more about the convenience of users and we should follow their example?
Because my computer is like me, it's old, tired, and low-spec, lol.
And fyi, my current MATE desktop runs almost 700 mb of ram at idle, while my older Openbox Vuu-do system runs around 128 mb at idle and is waaaaaaaay faster at everything.
This is Devuan with Trinity 14.2 default, standard kernel, with Chimaera it was 100 MB less (I posted it somewhere on the forum earlier).
root@aa:~# ps_mem
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
100.0 KiB + 16.5 KiB = 116.5 KiB start_tdeinit
128.0 KiB + 6.5 KiB = 134.5 KiB acpi_fakekeyd
120.0 KiB + 27.5 KiB = 147.5 KiB kwrapper
136.0 KiB + 14.5 KiB = 150.5 KiB uuidd
104.0 KiB + 87.5 KiB = 191.5 KiB sh
188.0 KiB + 18.5 KiB = 206.5 KiB gpm
160.0 KiB + 52.5 KiB = 212.5 KiB tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol
140.0 KiB + 87.5 KiB = 227.5 KiB x-session-manag
196.0 KiB + 33.5 KiB = 229.5 KiB acpid
220.0 KiB + 57.5 KiB = 277.5 KiB init
296.0 KiB + 66.5 KiB = 362.5 KiB cron
312.0 KiB + 62.5 KiB = 374.5 KiB dbus-launch
1.1 MiB + 15.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB ssh-agent
624.0 KiB + 482.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB su
876.0 KiB + 290.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB dbus-daemon (2)
556.0 KiB + 838.0 KiB = 1.4 MiB tdm (2)
912.0 KiB + 486.0 KiB = 1.4 MiB getty (6)
1.8 MiB + 72.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB elogind-daemon
1.8 MiB + 86.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB sshd
1.7 MiB + 187.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB bash
1.2 MiB + 693.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB kaccess
780.0 KiB + 1.2 MiB = 2.0 MiB dcopserver
2.3 MiB + 22.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB udevd
1.9 MiB + 530.5 KiB = 2.4 MiB khotkeys
2.1 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 3.5 MiB cupsd
2.7 MiB + 885.5 KiB = 3.6 MiB klipper
2.1 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 3.7 MiB tdeinit_phase1
3.1 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 5.0 MiB knotify
3.5 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 5.0 MiB artsd
4.3 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 5.5 MiB wpa_supplicant
5.0 MiB + 1.0 MiB = 6.0 MiB kxkb
3.9 MiB + 2.3 MiB = 6.1 MiB kded
4.7 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 6.2 MiB ksmserver
5.4 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 6.6 MiB tdenetworkmanag
6.2 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 7.6 MiB tdehwdevicetray
6.9 MiB + 2.9 MiB = 9.8 MiB kdesktop_lock
8.6 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 10.1 MiB kmix
8.1 MiB + 2.1 MiB = 10.2 MiB kdesktop
10.9 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 12.0 MiB NetworkManager
11.0 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 12.8 MiB kicker
12.1 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 13.4 MiB ntpd
13.6 MiB + 6.7 MiB = 20.3 MiB tdeinit (8)
12.8 MiB + 11.4 MiB = 24.3 MiB python3.11 (2)
35.8 MiB + 7.8 MiB = 43.6 MiB hp-systray
67.8 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 69.2 MiB Xorg
---------------------------------
307.1 MiB
=================================
root@aa:~#
My computers are also more than Google's 10 years old. But today the question is no longer in the OS itself, but in browsers. Everyone wants YouTube (by the way, Chrom based browsers are preferable for the latter on old computers, their codec is faster, Google’s monopolists...) and saving memory on DE is becoming irrelevant.
Best regards guys.
Thoughts out loud from reading a thread " How to set default desktop?"
"Human" DE, for example TDE, has a session manager with a bunch of features, incl. and a choice of installed desktops.
Yes, it may take up more memory.
But here are the specific numbers of used physical memory:
tdm 7.8 Mb
Firefox with 3 tabs 1060 Mb
The question is, why bother installing a “naked” dm (and all sorts of other “light” DE, etc.) , then manually editing the config files?
A "normal" DE for the average user should have a GUI for configuration. And programmers working with the CLI already know everything themselves and don’t ask questions on forums.
I'm not an alsa guru, just my understanding of the situation.
In the file /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf there are lines
defaults.ctl.card 0
defaults.pcm.card 0
defaults.pcm.device 0
Therefore, if there is only one sound card, then the /etc/asound.conf file is not needed to select it.
The sound on my desktop with one card works without this file.
The netbook has two audio devices - HDMI and the actual sound card. Hdmi is defined as the first device, so to output sound to a speaker or headphones you need this same selection file /etc/asound.conf.
Here we can add that due to the flexibility of alsa settings in different wiki there are different tips, including placing the contents of the selection file (/etc/asound.conf) in the home directory under the name /.asoundrc.
This will work if all other settings in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf are are suitable for the specific case.
Does amixer-gtk work with plughw, or are you using qasmixer instead? The ALSA amixer command doesn't work in my computer with this device:
$ amixer -D plughw ALSA lib control.c:1528:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL plughw amixer: Mixer attach plughw error: No such file or directory
I use TDE DE, so there is kmix. We have our own arts sound server.
Just ran the command
aplay -D plughw:1,0 Noise.wav
And everything worked.
Before that, I added the /etc/asound.conf file and edited the files in my home directory. Their content is in the post above.
Edit. Essentially kmix-GUI amixer if arts works through alsa.
Edit. Using the same method, I returned sound without pulseaudio on my desktop with Audigy2.
You'd probably be better off playing on "plughw" rather than "hw" as it includes audio format translations...
Thank you very much, you are right!
I take my words back.
"plughw" works, after this command the sound from alsa started working.
Regards.
Maybe I'm wrong, but in my opinion it's not a matter of settings.
The desktop with Audigy2 under Chimaera worked with alsa out of the box, but after updating to Daedalus it stopped.
And this is a netbook with Daedalus
root@AA:/etc# cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [Generic ]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
HD-Audio Generic at 0xf0244000 irq 27
1 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
HDA ATI SB at 0xf0240000 irq 16
uly_e@AA:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf
defaults.pcm.card 1
defaults.ctl.card 1
@AA:~$ aplay -D hw:1,0 Noise.wav
Playing WAVE 'Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
aplay: set_params:1358: Channels count non available
uly_e@AA:~$ cat ./.alsactl.conf
#
# ALSA library configuration file for alsactl tool
# (/usr/share/alsa tree is not necessary for alsactl)
#
ctl.hw {
@args [ CARD ]
@args.CARD {
type string
default "1"
}
type hw
card $CARD
}
uly_e@AA:~$ cat ./.asoundrc
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
This reads like a thriller!
I apologize, I don’t have a Fujitsu Lifebook U728, but on my Lenovo s205 I deleted all the Win partitions, formatted it under MBR and installed Linux (different).
In my experience, the success of the installation depends on the combination of the BIOS-method of writing to a flash drive-installation program. I can give an example with Slackware, when its live clone was installed without problems, but I was never able to launch live Slackware itself.
Fujitsu Lifebook U728 is certified by Suse, I think any other Linux should work.
https://suse.com/nbswebapp/yesBulletin. … ber=146983
Why not try downloading any Devuan live image and play with it before installing?
As a long-time follower of Kde-Tde, I used Exe GNU/Linux, it works out of the box.
Regards.
Uh... 68M is the directory size? There's two kernels in there.
Stock: 7.7M kernel + 37M initrd = 44.7M
Custom: 5.3M kernel + 14M initrd = 19.3MAnyone excited by that may also want to check out TinyCoreLinux.
Thanks I got it.
Yes, you have defined everything correctly.
Regareds.
@greenjeans
Glad to welcome you!
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what 68 mb you're talking about.
Regards.
I'm a regular user, not a programmer.
It takes more time to create the .config file, developers make their work easier, there are many items that are needed to display debugging information, etc.
For me, it's almost like deciphering hieroglyphs. Kdif helps, indicating the boundary in the files, and the
mrproper
command, which returns the source codes to their original state.
This is my final version for Dedalus (vmlinuz-6.1.55-s205, initrd.img-6.1.55-s205)
uly_e@AA:/boot$ ls -lh
total 68M
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 254K Jul 27 20:28 config-6.1.0-10-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 178K Oct 26 13:33 config-6.1.55-s205
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4.0K Oct 26 19:26 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37M Oct 8 21:52 initrd.img-6.1.0-10-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Oct 26 17:02 initrd.img-6.1.55-s205
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 83 Jul 27 20:28 System.map-6.1.0-10-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.0M Oct 26 13:33 System.map-6.1.55-s205
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7.7M Jul 27 20:28 vmlinuz-6.1.0-10-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5.3M Oct 26 13:33 vmlinuz-6.1.55-s205
uly_e@AA:/boot$ uname -a
Linux AA 6.1.55-s205 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Oct 26 16:33:50 EEST 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux
uly_e@AA:/boot$