False positives do occur by clamav supposedly,  but I don't think malware is in the debian repos. That sounds straight up nuts.

I could understand if people thought node, java or similar to have malware in it, or some of the linux frameworks that are heavily bloated, but even then, unixlike repos don't have the problems you described, at least 90% of the time anyhow.

Possibly less problematic if its a desktop/laptop and not a server.

The second is being updated more and is therefore more useful.

As for if I think there is a purpose, depends...

I would say, if people know of something that is on a megatools link, if they want it badly enough, then yes its useful

If not, yeah your right.

Not to mention, even XFCE4 and MATE, LXQT, etc... all are bright and shiny enough as it is. Most DEs have too many linux framework dependencies that aren't reasonable. Even Lumina looks semi flashy, but I could see myself using it at least...

CDE is a bit too dull for me, but I probably will mostly stick to the following:

JWM

Btw, I recently am now using startx to start some of my operating systems with. I have done so in Hyperbola, wondering if the same method works in devuan though.

Does this work for devuan:

        #!/bin/sh
        #
        # ~/.xinitrc
        #
        # Executed by startx (run your window manager from here)
        #
        # exec enlightenment_start
        # exec i3
        # exec awesome
        # exec bspwm
        # exec startfluxbox
        # exec openbox-session
        # exec pekwm
        # exec dwm
        # exec icewm-session
           exec jwm
        # exec notion
        # exec evilwm

And then when I press startx in a logged in user in terminal, it would start?

or adding startx to the bottom of  a .bash_profile  like this:

  GNU nano 5.2                      .bash_profile                      Modified 
#
# ~/.bash_profile
#

[[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc
startx && exit

Sorry if off topic, just curious.

distrowatch has information, its incomplete, but its not useless.

That is the best thing I can say about distrowatch.

It does have some useful info. The statistics however are meaningless

I normally don't tell this type of a joke, but:

Yo mama's so blue she could pass as a smurf!

If a desktop environment requires some bloated linux framework, systemd, dbus, pulseaudio, pipewire, avahi or smilar, as a dependency that is by definition proof that the maintainers are falling into the trash line-up. The more trash required, the more trash it is.

But that goes without saying.

Come on man, don't be a killjoy.

Its an awesome thread.

What is the favourite book of any serial killer?

A Graphic novel!

I know golinux, that was edited lol.

I was just making a pun for the fun of it.

Backwards? Nah... you would be hearing angels in that case.

Keep in mind, windows is an evil idea to begin with.

;P

Ain't that the truth...

To be fair, I don't think this just of systemd, but also dbus, pulseaudio, pipewire, networkmanager and avahi as well. As for wayland, I will wait to see how OpenBSD responds to it.

If something is needed as a dependency for something because otherwise it won't work, then it should be a dependency.

If this isn't the case, it should always be optional.

I don't know about most xorg as a whole, but xenocara might run rootless. I have no idea... I would have to look it up.

Problem is, xenocara's best features don't work as well on linux.

Pledge and Unveil for example do miles of good for openbsd, but I don't think anyone knows how to make those work in linux without monstrous changes.