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#451 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2019-04-07 23:50:56

For anyone who might like living on the edge, there is now available...

MiyoLinux-Rolling

Based on ceres. yikes

Video overview here...

https://youtu.be/EnJqLq3RJyI

Available for download here...

https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … e/Rolling/

Have fun...maybe?

#452 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-06 15:02:13

I was called "g-dog" once...still don't know what that means. LOL! tongue

#453 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-06 12:07:31

I still want a pickle...

...at this point, I'd settle for a gherkin. tongue

I feel that I must say this though...whoever created the blasphemy known as sweet pickles should be ashamed of themselves...

#455 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-05 04:09:24

ChuangTzu wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote:

True story...

After looking at all of that green on the page, it made me want a pickle.

Deli, Dill, Garlic, gherkin?  tongue

Dill...all others are just wannabe's...

#456 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-04 23:55:09

True story...

After looking at all of that green on the page, it made me want a pickle.

#457 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-03 09:03:47

Dear dev1ners,

Let us not forget that none of us...NONE OF US...are perfect. We are human and make mistakes...whether intentionally or not. Just look at my own personal latest nervous-jerkdown as an example...  tongue. I completely blew Miyo out of the water. I lost trust. Yet...there were folks who understood.

With this latest situation, I quickly realized that it was an April Fool's joke after seeing that my "report" of a hack wasn't responded to by an administrator...whom I knew had seen my report. Does that negate the problem that was created? No.

...but we are all human, and we all make mistakes.

Let's not forget that there are real people (who work behind the scenes) to bring us a non-systemd distro...and VERY often, their tireless efforts are without acknowledgment...while things are going good.

I work in water treatment...

No one has anything to say when the water is nice and clear...but let something happen that causes a problem, and they're all over that! LOL! I work holidays and weekends so that folks can have safe water to drink. I think that I've had a total of 3 Christmas days off in the last 25 years (not to mention other holidays and weekends)...but people don't think about that while they're celebrating the holidays with their family...that there is someone working to provide them with a service on a holiday that they're enjoying...or a weekend that they're enjoying...but that guy is having to work...and is missing time with HIS family.

I don't know all of the particulars regarding this incident...but one thing I do know...there are folks who make Devuan available for us, and they rarely receive any fanfare for their efforts and time. They work to provide us a service...much like I do.

We all make mistakes...please cut them/him some slack. Please?

#458 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2019-04-02 08:08:52

KatolaZ wrote:

Keep the good work MIYO. Passionate people move this shitty world forward ;-)

Thank you sir.

#459 Re: Forum Feedback » Forum has been hacked??? » 2019-04-01 05:12:34

Ah...okay. I haven't checked the main site. An April Fool's thing I guess...

#460 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2019-04-01 04:42:20

darry1966 wrote:

Nice to see back in the saddle.  don't let anything kill your passion.:)

Thanks darry1966. smile

catprints wrote:

Not my style but the video was Great Fun! lol

Thanks catprints. Not my style either...this build was at a user's request. I personally use the Openbox session on it, but periodically use the Compiz session when I'm feeling frisky. tongue

Glad my sense of humor didn't turn everyone off! LOLOLOL!!! big_smile tongue

#461 Forum Feedback » Forum has been hacked??? » 2019-04-01 04:38:45

MiyoLinux
Replies: 7

Just wanted to let the administrators know that all of the links at the top of the forum (except for the Packages link) open to this page...

2019-04-01-003121-1366x768-scrot_orig.png

#462 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2019-03-30 19:38:46

golinux wrote:

@Miyo . . . that video link starts in the middle not at the beginning!  Get rid of the &t=1052s . . .

Now off to watch it!!!

...I just like to do things a little differently. LOLOLOLOL!!! tongue

Fixed!

#463 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2019-03-30 18:36:11

Hi everyone...well, it's finally ready...

Miyo-Compiz (code-named Radac) is now available. Available in i686, x86_64, and x86_64-EFI versions. Available for download here...

https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … se/Compiz/

Here is a really, really, really professional video overview...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELvYycR2nZA

...and here's the readme from Sourceforge...

Have fun! smile

PLEASE NOTE: YOU WILL BOOT INTO A LOGIN SCREEN IN THE LIVE ENVIRONMENT. CHOOSE THE SESSION (OPENBOX OR COMPIZ), AND THEN FILL IN THE PASSWORD IN ALL LOWERCASE LETTERS. THE PASSWORD IS...

miyo
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Please be aware that this build is based on Devuan beowulf; as such, it is still considered as a "testing" release at the time of this build. Please be aware that you may (or may not) experience some issues due to that fact.
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SPECIAL NOTE FOR NON-ENGLISH INSTALLATIONS

Hopefully, this release will make it easier for users who install MiyoLinux in a language/locale other than English. I have included all locales in this build; however, a user will still need to install the appropriate "task" packages for their language/locale.
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CONDENSED NOTES ON THIS RELEASE

1. Miyo-Compiz uses sddm as the display manager                
2. Miyo-Compiz uses elogind instead of consolekit
3. New text editor
4. PulseAudio and Pavucontrol are not included in this build
5. How to enable sound with alsa if you have more than one sound card
6. How to activate the firewall with UFW
7. Update Notifier
8. Regarding Hibernate in the Exit menu
9. Miyo Accessories are in the "Other" menu category for this build
10. PCManFM (as root) and Customize look and feel (as root) now use pkexec
11. Included the papirus-folders script to change Papirus folder colors
12. The menu on the panel is jgmenu
13. The right-click menu in the Compiz session is pmenu
14. The Openbox right-click menu
15. The decorative prompt in lxterminal

Feel free to download the full Release Notes for more information on each of the above items.
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The software is provided "as is", without warranty of any kind, express or implied, including but not limited to the warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose and noninfringement. In no event shall the authors or copyright holders be liable for any claim, damages or other liability, whether in an action of contract, tort or otherwise, arising from, out of or in connection with the software or the use or other dealings in the software.

#464 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Miyo-i3 Releases » 2019-02-26 02:18:17

cmul wrote:

MiyoLinux,

Thank you for your work on Miyo-i3!  I am a happy devuan and i3 convert, and I have been looking for a simple installation medium to get me easily rolling with i3 for a while.

Great work on this, and I look forward to leading others your way for their computing needs as well!

Sincerely,

cmul

Hi cmul! Today was the first time I've visited the forum in SEVERAL days, so I'm glad I saw this on the day you wrote it...  smile

Thank you for the kind words, and I'm really happy to know that Miyo-i3 is working well for you! It's always good to know that I've done something right. LOL! tongue

I do hope you enjoy using the system, and thank you so much for taking the time to let me know.

Take care!

#465 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [Fixed] Upgraded "Miyo-XTRA Beowulf" boot suspend/resume delay » 2019-02-26 02:12:51

Wow! Looks like I've missed a lot since I last visited! Sorry...I've been busy doing taxes, taking online classes to renew my license for my job (240 hours worth and only 1/3 of the way finished), and playing with beowulf builds as I've had the chance.

stanz, I've had those pink symbols before (I don't remember which build(s) they were on). At the time I thought it was strange, and I couldn't find anything to explain it...so I attributed it to some conspiracy brought on by the Illuminati. LOLOLOLOL!!! tongue

I never noticed any side-effects or strange behavior, so I just chalked it up to one of the extra benefits of using Miyo. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! big_smile   smile   tongue

#466 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-20 22:13:56

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

Good. Apparently my use of apt-file leaves some to be desired.

LOL!

Here's what mine shows...

dan@miyolinux:~$ dpkg -S loginctl
elogind: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/loginctl
elogind: /usr/share/man/man1/loginctl.1.gz
elogind: /bin/loginctl
elogind: /usr/share/zsh/site-functions/_loginctl

...and available options...

dan@miyolinux:~$ loginctl -h
loginctl [OPTIONS...] {COMMAND} ...

Send control commands to or query the login manager.

  -h --help                Show this help
     --version             Show package version
     --no-pager            Do not pipe output into a pager
     --no-wall             Do not print any wall message
     --dry-run             Only print what would be done
  -q --quiet               Suppress output
     --no-legend           Do not show the headers and footers
     --no-ask-password     Don't prompt for password
  -H --host=[USER@]HOST    Operate on remote host
  -M --machine=CONTAINER   Operate on local container
  -p --property=NAME       Show only properties by this name
  -a --all                 Show all properties, including empty ones
     --value               When showing properties, only print the value
  -l --full                Do not ellipsize output
     --kill-who=WHO        Who to send signal to
  -s --signal=SIGNAL       Which signal to send
  -c                       Cancel a pending shutdown or reboot
  -i --ignore-inhibitors   When shutting down or sleeping, ignore inhibitors

Session Commands:
  list[-sessions]          List sessions (default command)
  session-status [ID...]   Show session status
  show-session [ID...]     Show properties of sessions or the manager
  activate [ID]            Activate a session
  lock-session [ID...]     Screen lock one or more sessions
  unlock-session [ID...]   Screen unlock one or more sessions
  lock-sessions            Screen lock all current sessions
  unlock-sessions          Screen unlock all current sessions
  terminate-session ID...  Terminate one or more sessions
  kill-session ID...       Send signal to processes of a session

User Commands:
  list-users               List users
  user-status [USER...]    Show user status
  show-user [USER...]      Show properties of users or the manager
  enable-linger [USER...]  Enable linger state of one or more users
  disable-linger [USER...] Disable linger state of one or more users
  terminate-user USER...   Terminate all sessions of one or more users
  kill-user USER...        Send signal to processes of a user

Seat Commands:
  list-seats               List seats
  seat-status [NAME...]    Show seat status
  show-seat [NAME...]      Show properties of seats or the manager
  attach NAME DEVICE...    Attach one or more devices to a seat
  flush-devices            Flush all device associations
  terminate-seat NAME...   Terminate all sessions on one or more seats

System Commands:
  poweroff [TIME] [WALL...] Turn off the machine
  reboot   [TIME] [WALL...] Reboot the machine
  suspend                   Suspend the machine to memory
  hibernate                 Suspend the machine to disk
  hybrid-sleep              Suspend the machine to memory and disk
  suspend-then-hibernate    Suspend the system, wake after a period of
                            time and put it into hibernate

#467 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-20 12:49:51

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

mmm maybe a

dpkg -S loginctl

could shed some light on it. For me, as I don't have that program, I tried

apt-file find loginctl

which reported it as belonging to systemd. And as far as I can tell, there is no installation candidate for that package in any Devuan repository.

Strange.

I'm using straight beowulf repositories. No outside packages installed other than the Refracta tools (which apparently aren't in beowulf yet?)...and my window themes and custom accessories (that use yad straight from the beowulf repos).

Just for kicks, I did another build on another computer that's even more stripped down (than my normal build) with only beowulf repos and no other additions at all...and loginctl works on it too.

Edited to add: I'm on my phone and can't check that command right now. I'll try it later. smile

#468 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-20 11:00:30

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

Are you sure? loginctl is in the systemd package .. or rather, where did you get it from?

Ah...this just registered with me (if I understand the question correctly).

I didn't get "it" anywhere. I just saw what someone was using on Manjaro OpenRC in their i3 config file; which was, loginctl ______ .

I didn't install anything extra; I simply tried the commands first from the terminal, and they worked. Now...whether that relates to it working now (in beowulf) as opposed to it continuing to work in the future...I don't know.

Just wanted to clarify that I didn't install anything to give me the ability to use loginctl.

#469 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-20 07:18:44

LOL! big_smile

Dagnabit! Just when I thought I was onto something...

I'll see how it plays out...

#470 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-20 07:01:02

Ralph, I found it in an old manjaro forum from back when they still had an openrc version.

That loginctl part works on my Beowulf build for shutdown, reboot, and suspend. I haven't tried hibernate yet.

Have I stumbled upon a boo-boo? tongue

#471 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-20 04:52:59

Hooray! I F...I...N...A...L...L...Y found the commands that work with elogind for my exit utility! tongue

loginctl poweroff
loginctl reboot
loginctl suspend
loginctl hibernate

So, if this may possibly help anyone else, here's the new code for the exit utility in upcoming MiyoLinux versions based on beowulf...

#!/bin/sh

yad --form --center --undecorated --align=left --width=165 --borders=10 --height=320 --skip-taskbar \
--image=/usr/share/miyolinux/miyo-exit.png --image-on-top \
--field="  Shutdown!gnome-shutdown!Shut Down":fbtn "loginctl poweroff" \
--field="  Reboot!system-reboot!Restart":fbtn "loginctl reboot" \
--field="  Suspend!gnome-session-suspend!Suspend":fbtn "loginctl suspend" \
--field="  Hibernate!gnome-session-hibernate!Hibernate":fbtn "loginctl hibernate" \
--field="  Log Out!gnome-logout!Log Out":fbtn "openbox --exit" \
--button=gtk-cancel --buttons-layout=center \

...it still looks the same...

miyo-exit_1_orig.png

#472 Re: Installation » Beowulf: Link sbin » 2019-02-18 22:06:22

fsmithred wrote:

The problem you're running into is the change in root's path when you run su in a terminal. That path no longer contains the sbins. If you use su - instead, you'll get the root path that you're used to. But then you won't be able to start graphical apps as root from that terminal. For that, you're supposed to use pkexec. When you figure all that out, I'll read your posts. Until then, or until someone gives me good reasons not to do this, I'm working around the problem.

# grep PATH /root/.bashrc
export PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"

Oh yeah, the other workaround is to use the full path for commands.

/sbin/blkid
/usr/sbin/update-grub

Thanks fsr. The "full path" answer is what I thought of after doing it the way that I did. I wasn't aware of su -. Thanks.

As for opening items with pkexec, I have a couple of apps in the "MiyoLinux Accessories" that run as root. PCManFM and Lxappearance. The way that I solved that was to add a file for both of them in /usr/share/policykit-1/actions/

I just used one of the existing ones as a template and changed each instance of the original application's name in the existing file to the appropriate name of the application that I wanted to use it for in the file I was creating; such as, if I were using the synaptic file as an example, I replaced every instance of synaptic with lxapppearance...hope that makes sense. Also, I changed the icon used and named both files similarly to how the existing files are named.

Anyway, I can now open both PCManFM (as root) and Customize Look and Feel (as root) from the menu using pkexec. smile

#473 Installation » Beowulf: Link sbin » 2019-02-18 09:31:25

MiyoLinux
Replies: 15

After my latest stab at building a basic Openbox system on the Beowulf .iso, everything is working wonderfully. smile

I have one question, and I know that this is rather vague...

During the installation, there was an option to link sbin to bin (?). I can't remember exactly what it said...sorry. I'm bad about not reading things. LOL! tongue

Anyway...I chose the default answer of No. Later on, after setting everything up and adding a desktop-grub.png image, I tried to run update-grub and received an error in the terminal that the update-grub command wasn't found. Grrrrrr...

So...I opened the file manager as root, went to the sbin folder, and sure enough...update-grub was there. So I opened the terminal in that folder and ran update-grub successfully.

So my question is...despite the default answer of no, should sbin be linked to bin (or whatever that option was) in Beowulf? I just don't have it in me to go through another installation right now in order to read that message during the installation. sad  tongue

#474 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-18 02:58:57

Thank you, but I no longer need Consolekit since obsession works with elogind.

#475 Re: DIY » Input requested regarding Suspend » 2019-02-18 01:28:11

MiyoLinux wrote:
golinux wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote:

No...it's simply a basic YAD script...that I'm going to have to change since consolekit apparently will no longer be available beginning in beowulf. neutral  tongue

Isn't there consolekit2.  There has been recent discussion. and also there are consolekit related packages in beowulf:
libpolkit-backend-1-0-consolekit
libpolkit-gobject-1-0-consolekit
etc.

You should probably be on the ML.

Oh...

tongue

The last time I tried a straight beowulf build, it was a no-go with consolekit. Perhaps I should try again. LOLOLOLOL! tongue

I've been too busy with the latest i3 versions to test things...

Thank you...I'll look into it when I have time. smile

I'm the Ultra-Quoter! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!  tongue

Well, I tried a quick basic beowulf Openbox build this evening...there's good news and bad news.

The bad news: still no Consolekit.

The good news: the obsession utility (from the repositories) works with elogind! I can shutdown, reboot, etc with it. smile

Using lxpolkit (for the authentication agent), still works fantastic for opening things like synaptic too.

Now if I can figure out what commands obsession is using...

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