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For anyone who might like living on the edge, there is now available...
MiyoLinux-Rolling
Based on ceres.
Video overview here...
Available for download here...
https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … e/Rolling/
Have fun...maybe?
I was called "g-dog" once...still don't know what that means. LOL!
I still want a pickle...
...at this point, I'd settle for a gherkin.
I feel that I must say this though...whoever created the blasphemy known as sweet pickles should be ashamed of themselves...
MiyoLinux wrote:True story...
After looking at all of that green on the page, it made me want a pickle.
Deli, Dill, Garlic, gherkin?
Dill...all others are just wannabe's...
True story...
After looking at all of that green on the page, it made me want a pickle.
Dear dev1ners,
Let us not forget that none of us...NONE OF US...are perfect. We are human and make mistakes...whether intentionally or not. Just look at my own personal latest nervous-jerkdown as an example... . I completely blew Miyo out of the water. I lost trust. Yet...there were folks who understood.
With this latest situation, I quickly realized that it was an April Fool's joke after seeing that my "report" of a hack wasn't responded to by an administrator...whom I knew had seen my report. Does that negate the problem that was created? No.
...but we are all human, and we all make mistakes.
Let's not forget that there are real people (who work behind the scenes) to bring us a non-systemd distro...and VERY often, their tireless efforts are without acknowledgment...while things are going good.
I work in water treatment...
No one has anything to say when the water is nice and clear...but let something happen that causes a problem, and they're all over that! LOL! I work holidays and weekends so that folks can have safe water to drink. I think that I've had a total of 3 Christmas days off in the last 25 years (not to mention other holidays and weekends)...but people don't think about that while they're celebrating the holidays with their family...that there is someone working to provide them with a service on a holiday that they're enjoying...or a weekend that they're enjoying...but that guy is having to work...and is missing time with HIS family.
I don't know all of the particulars regarding this incident...but one thing I do know...there are folks who make Devuan available for us, and they rarely receive any fanfare for their efforts and time. They work to provide us a service...much like I do.
We all make mistakes...please cut them/him some slack. Please?
Keep the good work MIYO. Passionate people move this shitty world forward ;-)
Thank you sir.
Ah...okay. I haven't checked the main site. An April Fool's thing I guess...
Nice to see back in the saddle. don't let anything kill your passion.:)
Thanks darry1966.
Not my style but the video was Great Fun! lol
Thanks catprints. Not my style either...this build was at a user's request. I personally use the Openbox session on it, but periodically use the Compiz session when I'm feeling frisky.
Glad my sense of humor didn't turn everyone off! LOLOLOL!!!
Just wanted to let the administrators know that all of the links at the top of the forum (except for the Packages link) open to this page...
@Miyo . . . that video link starts in the middle not at the beginning! Get rid of the &t=1052s . . .
Now off to watch it!!!
...I just like to do things a little differently. LOLOLOLOL!!!
Fixed!
Hi everyone...well, it's finally ready...
Miyo-Compiz (code-named Radac) is now available. Available in i686, x86_64, and x86_64-EFI versions. Available for download here...
https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … se/Compiz/
Here is a really, really, really professional video overview...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELvYycR2nZA
...and here's the readme from Sourceforge...
Have fun!
PLEASE NOTE: YOU WILL BOOT INTO A LOGIN SCREEN IN THE LIVE ENVIRONMENT. CHOOSE THE SESSION (OPENBOX OR COMPIZ), AND THEN FILL IN THE PASSWORD IN ALL LOWERCASE LETTERS. THE PASSWORD IS...
miyo
_________________________Please be aware that this build is based on Devuan beowulf; as such, it is still considered as a "testing" release at the time of this build. Please be aware that you may (or may not) experience some issues due to that fact.
_________________________SPECIAL NOTE FOR NON-ENGLISH INSTALLATIONS
Hopefully, this release will make it easier for users who install MiyoLinux in a language/locale other than English. I have included all locales in this build; however, a user will still need to install the appropriate "task" packages for their language/locale.
_________________________CONDENSED NOTES ON THIS RELEASE
1. Miyo-Compiz uses sddm as the display manager
2. Miyo-Compiz uses elogind instead of consolekit
3. New text editor
4. PulseAudio and Pavucontrol are not included in this build
5. How to enable sound with alsa if you have more than one sound card
6. How to activate the firewall with UFW
7. Update Notifier
8. Regarding Hibernate in the Exit menu
9. Miyo Accessories are in the "Other" menu category for this build
10. PCManFM (as root) and Customize look and feel (as root) now use pkexec
11. Included the papirus-folders script to change Papirus folder colors
12. The menu on the panel is jgmenu
13. The right-click menu in the Compiz session is pmenu
14. The Openbox right-click menu
15. The decorative prompt in lxterminalFeel free to download the full Release Notes for more information on each of the above items.
_________________________The software is provided "as is", without warranty of any kind, express or implied, including but not limited to the warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose and noninfringement. In no event shall the authors or copyright holders be liable for any claim, damages or other liability, whether in an action of contract, tort or otherwise, arising from, out of or in connection with the software or the use or other dealings in the software.
MiyoLinux,
Thank you for your work on Miyo-i3! I am a happy devuan and i3 convert, and I have been looking for a simple installation medium to get me easily rolling with i3 for a while.
Great work on this, and I look forward to leading others your way for their computing needs as well!
Sincerely,
cmul
Hi cmul! Today was the first time I've visited the forum in SEVERAL days, so I'm glad I saw this on the day you wrote it...
Thank you for the kind words, and I'm really happy to know that Miyo-i3 is working well for you! It's always good to know that I've done something right. LOL!
I do hope you enjoy using the system, and thank you so much for taking the time to let me know.
Take care!
Wow! Looks like I've missed a lot since I last visited! Sorry...I've been busy doing taxes, taking online classes to renew my license for my job (240 hours worth and only 1/3 of the way finished), and playing with beowulf builds as I've had the chance.
stanz, I've had those pink symbols before (I don't remember which build(s) they were on). At the time I thought it was strange, and I couldn't find anything to explain it...so I attributed it to some conspiracy brought on by the Illuminati. LOLOLOLOL!!!
I never noticed any side-effects or strange behavior, so I just chalked it up to one of the extra benefits of using Miyo. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
Good. Apparently my use of apt-file leaves some to be desired.
LOL!
Here's what mine shows...
dan@miyolinux:~$ dpkg -S loginctl
elogind: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/loginctl
elogind: /usr/share/man/man1/loginctl.1.gz
elogind: /bin/loginctl
elogind: /usr/share/zsh/site-functions/_loginctl
...and available options...
dan@miyolinux:~$ loginctl -h
loginctl [OPTIONS...] {COMMAND} ...
Send control commands to or query the login manager.
-h --help Show this help
--version Show package version
--no-pager Do not pipe output into a pager
--no-wall Do not print any wall message
--dry-run Only print what would be done
-q --quiet Suppress output
--no-legend Do not show the headers and footers
--no-ask-password Don't prompt for password
-H --host=[USER@]HOST Operate on remote host
-M --machine=CONTAINER Operate on local container
-p --property=NAME Show only properties by this name
-a --all Show all properties, including empty ones
--value When showing properties, only print the value
-l --full Do not ellipsize output
--kill-who=WHO Who to send signal to
-s --signal=SIGNAL Which signal to send
-c Cancel a pending shutdown or reboot
-i --ignore-inhibitors When shutting down or sleeping, ignore inhibitors
Session Commands:
list[-sessions] List sessions (default command)
session-status [ID...] Show session status
show-session [ID...] Show properties of sessions or the manager
activate [ID] Activate a session
lock-session [ID...] Screen lock one or more sessions
unlock-session [ID...] Screen unlock one or more sessions
lock-sessions Screen lock all current sessions
unlock-sessions Screen unlock all current sessions
terminate-session ID... Terminate one or more sessions
kill-session ID... Send signal to processes of a session
User Commands:
list-users List users
user-status [USER...] Show user status
show-user [USER...] Show properties of users or the manager
enable-linger [USER...] Enable linger state of one or more users
disable-linger [USER...] Disable linger state of one or more users
terminate-user USER... Terminate all sessions of one or more users
kill-user USER... Send signal to processes of a user
Seat Commands:
list-seats List seats
seat-status [NAME...] Show seat status
show-seat [NAME...] Show properties of seats or the manager
attach NAME DEVICE... Attach one or more devices to a seat
flush-devices Flush all device associations
terminate-seat NAME... Terminate all sessions on one or more seats
System Commands:
poweroff [TIME] [WALL...] Turn off the machine
reboot [TIME] [WALL...] Reboot the machine
suspend Suspend the machine to memory
hibernate Suspend the machine to disk
hybrid-sleep Suspend the machine to memory and disk
suspend-then-hibernate Suspend the system, wake after a period of
time and put it into hibernate
mmm maybe a
dpkg -S loginctl
could shed some light on it. For me, as I don't have that program, I tried
apt-file find loginctl
which reported it as belonging to systemd. And as far as I can tell, there is no installation candidate for that package in any Devuan repository.
Strange.
I'm using straight beowulf repositories. No outside packages installed other than the Refracta tools (which apparently aren't in beowulf yet?)...and my window themes and custom accessories (that use yad straight from the beowulf repos).
Just for kicks, I did another build on another computer that's even more stripped down (than my normal build) with only beowulf repos and no other additions at all...and loginctl works on it too.
Edited to add: I'm on my phone and can't check that command right now. I'll try it later.
Are you sure? loginctl is in the systemd package .. or rather, where did you get it from?
Ah...this just registered with me (if I understand the question correctly).
I didn't get "it" anywhere. I just saw what someone was using on Manjaro OpenRC in their i3 config file; which was, loginctl ______ .
I didn't install anything extra; I simply tried the commands first from the terminal, and they worked. Now...whether that relates to it working now (in beowulf) as opposed to it continuing to work in the future...I don't know.
Just wanted to clarify that I didn't install anything to give me the ability to use loginctl.
LOL!
Dagnabit! Just when I thought I was onto something...
I'll see how it plays out...
Ralph, I found it in an old manjaro forum from back when they still had an openrc version.
That loginctl part works on my Beowulf build for shutdown, reboot, and suspend. I haven't tried hibernate yet.
Have I stumbled upon a boo-boo?
Hooray! I F...I...N...A...L...L...Y found the commands that work with elogind for my exit utility!
loginctl poweroff
loginctl reboot
loginctl suspend
loginctl hibernate
So, if this may possibly help anyone else, here's the new code for the exit utility in upcoming MiyoLinux versions based on beowulf...
#!/bin/sh
yad --form --center --undecorated --align=left --width=165 --borders=10 --height=320 --skip-taskbar \
--image=/usr/share/miyolinux/miyo-exit.png --image-on-top \
--field=" Shutdown!gnome-shutdown!Shut Down":fbtn "loginctl poweroff" \
--field=" Reboot!system-reboot!Restart":fbtn "loginctl reboot" \
--field=" Suspend!gnome-session-suspend!Suspend":fbtn "loginctl suspend" \
--field=" Hibernate!gnome-session-hibernate!Hibernate":fbtn "loginctl hibernate" \
--field=" Log Out!gnome-logout!Log Out":fbtn "openbox --exit" \
--button=gtk-cancel --buttons-layout=center \
...it still looks the same...
The problem you're running into is the change in root's path when you run su in a terminal. That path no longer contains the sbins. If you use su - instead, you'll get the root path that you're used to. But then you won't be able to start graphical apps as root from that terminal. For that, you're supposed to use pkexec. When you figure all that out, I'll read your posts. Until then, or until someone gives me good reasons not to do this, I'm working around the problem.
# grep PATH /root/.bashrc export PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"
Oh yeah, the other workaround is to use the full path for commands.
/sbin/blkid /usr/sbin/update-grub
Thanks fsr. The "full path" answer is what I thought of after doing it the way that I did. I wasn't aware of su -. Thanks.
As for opening items with pkexec, I have a couple of apps in the "MiyoLinux Accessories" that run as root. PCManFM and Lxappearance. The way that I solved that was to add a file for both of them in /usr/share/policykit-1/actions/
I just used one of the existing ones as a template and changed each instance of the original application's name in the existing file to the appropriate name of the application that I wanted to use it for in the file I was creating; such as, if I were using the synaptic file as an example, I replaced every instance of synaptic with lxapppearance...hope that makes sense. Also, I changed the icon used and named both files similarly to how the existing files are named.
Anyway, I can now open both PCManFM (as root) and Customize Look and Feel (as root) from the menu using pkexec.
After my latest stab at building a basic Openbox system on the Beowulf .iso, everything is working wonderfully.
I have one question, and I know that this is rather vague...
During the installation, there was an option to link sbin to bin (?). I can't remember exactly what it said...sorry. I'm bad about not reading things. LOL!
Anyway...I chose the default answer of No. Later on, after setting everything up and adding a desktop-grub.png image, I tried to run update-grub and received an error in the terminal that the update-grub command wasn't found. Grrrrrr...
So...I opened the file manager as root, went to the sbin folder, and sure enough...update-grub was there. So I opened the terminal in that folder and ran update-grub successfully.
So my question is...despite the default answer of no, should sbin be linked to bin (or whatever that option was) in Beowulf? I just don't have it in me to go through another installation right now in order to read that message during the installation.
Thank you, but I no longer need Consolekit since obsession works with elogind.
golinux wrote:MiyoLinux wrote:No...it's simply a basic YAD script...that I'm going to have to change since consolekit apparently will no longer be available beginning in beowulf.
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Isn't there consolekit2. There has been recent discussion. and also there are consolekit related packages in beowulf:
libpolkit-backend-1-0-consolekit
libpolkit-gobject-1-0-consolekit
etc.You should probably be on the ML.
Oh...
The last time I tried a straight beowulf build, it was a no-go with consolekit. Perhaps I should try again. LOLOLOLOL!
I've been too busy with the latest i3 versions to test things...
Thank you...I'll look into it when I have time.
I'm the Ultra-Quoter! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Well, I tried a quick basic beowulf Openbox build this evening...there's good news and bad news.
The bad news: still no Consolekit.
The good news: the obsession utility (from the repositories) works with elogind! I can shutdown, reboot, etc with it.
Using lxpolkit (for the authentication agent), still works fantastic for opening things like synaptic too.
Now if I can figure out what commands obsession is using...