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#451 Re: ARM Builds » Is any work planned for devuan on the raspberry pi 4? » 2021-06-09 08:31:02

The images that I downloaded from the Devuan site worked OK, just had to enter my wifi details into supplicant.conf - rebooted & wifi came up OK.

(Both on the RPi4 & RPi3 images.)

#452 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-07 08:36:40

How about "Linux supporters" who help Windows users to install and configure Linux?

We already had Linux User Groups who did this via Install Fests.

But what I do now is to install Linux onto old computers, & then give them to people who need a computer.

#455 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-05 13:15:24

The reason most people use MS Windows is because it comes pre loaded onto their computer when bought.

Computers should all come with a choice of operating systems - not be 'locked in' to one company's software.

I buy mine without an O/S installed, even pre used ones, & therefore, have the choice of which system gets installed. smile

#456 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-06-05 13:04:05

Ah, OK, battery life - now that is a different subject.... big_smile

Load to ram, so as not to use the hard drive, was one way to conserve battery power, & reducing screen brightness is another.

#457 Re: Installation » netinstall ISO » 2021-06-04 13:22:57

You should be using 'Desktop Live' then, not 'Netinstall'. smile

It is quicker & easier to get a system up & running with the 'Desktop Live' version.

#458 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-06-04 09:47:13

CPU usage is of little consequence to a normal desktop user. smile

Those that need good CPUs are those that use their resources heavily, like compiling software, complex graphics, CAD, etc.

#459 Re: Installation » netinstall ISO » 2021-06-04 09:37:02

What do you call a 'full' version?

To me, that would be 'Desktop Live'.

But if you want commandline, then choose 'Minimal Live'.

#460 Re: Installation » low memory installation » 2021-06-04 09:31:53

I'd use Elinks for browser.... wink

Plus, mc as file manager, editor, & music player using mpg123. smile

#461 Re: Installation » netinstall ISO » 2021-06-03 18:47:51

'Netinstall' is just the very basics to allow you to download (via ethernet cable) what you want from the internet when installing a new O/S.

Installer ISO - 'Desktop' is a DVD sized installation media (run it from disc or pendrive) useful if you don't have internet connection handy when installing.

'Desktop Live' is the easiest way to install a ready made system onto your computer.

'Minimal Live' is a full command line distro.

https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/README.txt

#462 Re: Installation » low memory installation » 2021-06-02 09:29:14

I have a 2006 Toshiba Satellite running the standard 32bit 'live' Devuan installed to disk, with just 1GB ram - I use a swap partition of 2GB, which allows for Firefox on the internet at reasonable speed.

<Having just come over from AntiX, which I'd been using for many years, (since the demise of #! [Chrunchbang Linux] ), your experience sounds very suspect, I have never encountered any negativity or bullying on the forums in all my time there.>

#463 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-06-02 09:14:38

I've used JWM, & yes, it is a good WM, (I have my sister using it wink ), but I like a clean desktop, & I get that from Fluxbox normally, I generally use a right click menu, I don't need a task bar, but it is only a thin one.

I've seen a test somewhere that compares most of the WMs, & there is only a few MBs difference between them, JWM, Fluxbox, & IceWM being at the low end, are fairly close in using resources. smile

XFCE has obviously looked into reducing its footprint somewhere along the way, as I can run Firefox on XFCE & only use somewhere just north of 600MB, which leaves me plenty to have a couple of tabs open - I very seldom use more at any one time.

#464 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-05-31 09:11:08

I'm literally just using the standard XFCE desktop install, & it works remarkably well, even using Firefox online isn't slow. smile

My preferred WM is Fluxbox, been using it for years. wink

#465 Re: ARM Builds » Is any work planned for devuan on the raspberry pi 4? » 2021-05-30 10:47:44

Installed & started out using just CLI, including Links2, with mc & mpg123, but just had to add Fluxbox & Firefox-esr...... big_smile

Great little starter distro/version, likely I'll be dumping RaspiOS from my Pis soon, (as it seems to be somewhat bloated - & of course, has that systemd mess).

Many thanks for your work, (I got my download from Devuan.org this time).

#466 Re: Off-topic » Do you know jOS? » 2021-05-22 11:46:11

PXE boot server is a similar concept, & has been around for ages - down load your operating system, & away you go.

The RPi SBC is a better solution - no information is held in the computer, not even the operating system, it is all on removable media, kept at your own home - why do people put their data up on the internet, so insecure.... wink

#467 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Bluetooth adapter not detected » 2021-05-21 09:12:21

Depending on how you installed Devuan, do you have the following installed?

bluetooth 5.50-1.2~deb10u1
bluez 5.50-1.2~deb10u1
libbluetooth3:amd64 5.50-1.2~deb10u1

(No idea what to do with them without reading up on them, but they came installed on my 'live' install.)

#468 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-05-19 09:53:16

With Linux, even with the standard live Devuan installed, my 2006 32bit laptop is still usable for all my daily tasks, as a normal user, & it only has 1GB ram! smile

#469 Re: Installation » Kernel upgrade: apparmor and tomoyo » 2021-05-18 09:42:14

I went off Debian when they foisted systemd onto its users, I've been using a non systemd version/distro, but they have been adding too many things to the already full menu, which just makes it look tatty now.........

So here I am, back to Devuan, (I tried it a couple of times in the past), using the regular 'live' version installed to disk.

Seems to be working well, but haven't looked below the surface, so to speak, (& I'm not so sure I can be bothered messing with altering things on distros any more).

I just needed to find a decent replacement for my previous distro. smile

#470 Re: Installation » low memory installation » 2021-05-18 09:30:04

I've just installed the regular live version (XFCE) onto my 80GB HDD on my 1GB ram old (2006) Toshiba Satellite 32bit laptop. smile

I gave it 2GB swap to help it along when using Firefox online - perfectly usable system, if a little bit slow at times on the internet, which could just be down to the internet itself. wink

#471 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » SD card reader on laptop identified as hard disk. » 2021-05-18 09:23:21

If they have cards in whilst booting up, then the system may consider them as hard drives, rather than removable - but it certainly wouldn't worry me - I prefer to manually mount all external media myself. smile

If you remove, & then reinsert the cards, do they show up on your desktop?

#472 Re: Installation » Kernel upgrade: apparmor and tomoyo » 2021-05-17 17:53:29

Everything not needed to run a system should remain optional - we don't all run servers - if this is what it is meant for.

If the devs want to have a version for servers, that's fine by me, but please don't foist these things onto ordinary desktop users the likes of me, as I have no idea about them, & don't want them.

I just want a good working distro to do my daily tasks, thankyou. wink

#473 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2021-05-14 18:42:03

Recently, installed 3.1, & added Xshisen & Xpat2 for my time wasting. smile

#474 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Save me from having to distro hop......[SOLVED sort of] » 2021-03-14 19:18:23

wdq wrote:

If you could tell me what wifi card you are using I can make sure I will include the drivers in the next FluXuan release.

Just passing through the forum, & saw new posts, this is what I have on this particular machine; (otherwise, I am normally using Realtek.)

$ lsmod | grep  wifi
iwlwifi               249856  1 iwlmvm
cfg80211              774144  4 wl,iwlmvm,iwlwifi,mac80211

#475 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Save me from having to distro hop......[SOLVED sort of] » 2021-03-11 11:09:14

Even having problems with my Devuan Live install keep on turning off my monitor......

Sorted - the default power manager settings were the fault!

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