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#451 Re: Installation » apt install kde-plasma-desktop recommends systemd » 2023-10-06 20:32:56

If a desktop environment requires some bloated linux framework, systemd, dbus, pulseaudio, pipewire, avahi or smilar, as a dependency that is by definition proof that the maintainers are falling into the trash line-up. The more trash required, the more trash it is.

But that goes without saying. tongue

#452 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-10-06 20:19:17

Someone told me I should have a balanced breakfast and now I have to clean up the floor.

#453 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-10-06 20:17:36

alexkemp wrote:

This is my only way to unsubscribe from this thread.

Come on man, don't be a killjoy.

Its an awesome thread.

big_smile

#454 Re: Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2023-10-06 20:15:21

I just noticed, stopai is banned, I didn't know anyone from devuan forums was banned...

Btw,  as for you alexkemp,

it does seem a tad over the top your request. If what the amnesiac philospher was doing was such a huge problem I am sure golinux would have said something by now...

Kind of seems like you are barking up the wrong tree.

#455 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-10-06 01:08:31

What is the favourite book of any serial killer?

A Graphic novel!

tongue

#456 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-10-06 01:07:18

alexkemp wrote:

Please stop full-post quoting.

Why? Do you want your money from your account or not? tongue

I guess you will need to check on your own! big_smile

I am sure you won't have to pay any bills LOL!

I could bank on that!

xD

But seriously, post quoting is fun!

big_smile

#457 Re: News & Announcements » Non GNU Linux Chimera » 2023-10-05 02:14:28

I know golinux, that was edited lol.

I was just making a pun for the fun of it. big_smile

#458 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-10-04 23:36:10

What is a napkin?

A napkin is a relative who sleeps next to you!

xD

#459 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-10-04 23:35:04

andyp67 wrote:

Supposedly if you spin a Windows CD-ROM backwards you hear satanic messages,
never mind that, if you spin it forwards it installs Windows.

Backwards? Nah... you would be hearing angels in that case.

Keep in mind, windows is an evil idea to begin with.

;P

#460 Re: News & Announcements » Non GNU Linux Chimera » 2023-10-04 23:21:52

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

...

Edit: Inhale!
<pause>
Exhale!

Hello there!

I am sure golinux wouldn't mind, because I was just doing some ghost writing...

xD O.o

#461 Re: Devuan » A report about systemd on linuxnews.de » 2023-09-26 00:06:02

Camtaf wrote:

Yeah, I recon everyone on here has their own opinion of systemd too.... wink

Ain't that the truth...

To be fair, I don't think this just of systemd, but also dbus, pulseaudio, pipewire, networkmanager and avahi as well. As for wayland, I will wait to see how OpenBSD responds to it.

If something is needed as a dependency for something because otherwise it won't work, then it should be a dependency.

If this isn't the case, it should always be optional.

#462 Re: ARM Builds » [SOLVED] X server / X11 / Xorg / X not running rootless by default? » 2023-09-26 00:00:49

Well if xorg can be used rootless, than xenocara damn well must be able to even more so.

Perhaps, display managers are even less of a problem for xenocara.

#463 Re: ARM Builds » [SOLVED] X server / X11 / Xorg / X not running rootless by default? » 2023-09-25 01:02:50

I don't know about most xorg as a whole, but xenocara might run rootless. I have no idea... I would have to look it up.

Problem is, xenocara's best features don't work as well on linux.

Pledge and Unveil for example do miles of good for openbsd, but I don't think anyone knows how to make those work in linux without monstrous changes.

#464 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2023-09-25 00:58:37

LU344928

We are talking about Google here so... yeah.

The Big 3, Google, Apple and Microsoft all can suck it. These days, I am more inclined to say it to  Google and Microsoft though.

Apple is only a problem for people willing to use their services and more than that, their hardware.

So... the other two really need a giant nerf. Or better yet, they should be deleted from this world.

All capitalist surveillance companies need to die

#465 Re: News & Announcements » New version of sudo in Rust » 2023-09-25 00:52:25

Altoid wrote:

Hello:

Came across this today.

Thomas Claburn@The Register wrote:

The sudo command-line tool has been implemented in the Rust programming language
to hopefully rid it of any exploitable memory-safety bugs.
Prossimo, a project overseen by the non-profit Internet Security Research Group (ISRG),
announced the first stable release of sudo-rs this week. That open source codebase
includes the related su command-line program, again in Rust.

https://github.com/memorysafety/sudo-rs

Best,

A.

Great... more people trying to rustify things that don't need it. (which is 100% of all of it)

The best way to think of rust, is its training wheels for programmers.

If you are a patient and someone says they are a butcher, would you want them to be your doctor?

If programmers use training wheels programming languages, like java, rust, javascript, the web gets screwed up more and more.

Javascript supposedly doesn't require much talent to learn... and then some people wonder why the web is so bloated and insecure...

The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife... 

I would love it if all these imbeciles would stop presuming that rust is a free programming language. It is not, it has trademark restrictions all throughout if you even so much as modify it without their permission.

I dislike people who presume in situations like this alot.

If people don't know how to program in C, effectively, then they shouldn't be coding anywhere where security is a concern. Unless you can use non-idiotproof programming languages.  Java, javsascript and rust are heavily bloated as are a few others. I only recently learned that php is another programming language with similar problems to rust and java.  Apparently php devs dropped the gpl license option and left the bad license intact as the only option.

Rant = Complete

#466 Re: Devuan » Search ranking on Distowatch » 2023-09-19 16:40:20

Distrowatch has a listing of categories of distros and it lists most of the distros.

The reviews and rankings are pretty darn useless but it does have a list of info at least.

#467 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-09-18 16:33:14

chris2be8 wrote:
zapper wrote:

Btw, if systemd theoretically was the lesser of two evils, what the hell has this world become!

Presumably the only other choice would be Windows.

That both makes sense and sounds awful.

#468 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-09-18 16:32:24

chris2be8 wrote:
zapper wrote:

Btw, if systemd theoretically was the lesser of two evils, what the hell has this world become!

Presumably the only other choice would be Windows.

That both makes sense and is a pathetic situation.

>.>
<.<

#469 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-09-17 23:23:28

Btw, if systemd theoretically was the lesser of two evils, what the hell has this world become!

O.o

That sounds like a nightmare.

Imagine how much more bloated the other alternative would be.

xD

#470 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2023-09-17 23:18:39

Saacmatchin, one can only hope someone will pin them to the ground for a long time for their bs.

such as the "crimeflare network" they have...

https://notabug.org/dCF/deCloudflare

#crimeflare is one of the hashtags on that notabug.org page.

Its beyond appropriate that whoever made that notabug page, calls it crimeflare lol.

big_smile

But yeah, google needs someone to cut their lucrative business by 10x at least. Big corporations hate competition. FACT!

So... yeah.

#471 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-16 04:46:52

alphalpha wrote:

you can copy the whole disc and then shrink the qcow

I have tried that, but for some reason, errors occurred for me and so I gave it up.

Maybe I am missing something?

#472 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-15 22:48:10

boughtonp wrote:

Yeah, like if you had this situation:

$ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1        50G   20G   30G  40% /
/dev/sda2       450G   80G  270G  18% /home

You'd want a single 100GB sparse file, which still retains the 500GB capacity.

Correct, but actually, I may have changed my mind slightly, is there any easy solution in devuan included in doing this? Even that might be helpful. Preferably one that isn't mega slow.

2 hours is fine, anything longer would be painful.

500GB disk btw.

#473 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-15 22:45:17

so zerofree would work for what I want? Is that correct?

I guess I should try this then?

#474 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2023-09-13 19:48:49

https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=e7Sg_jDB-EE
https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=TYhuJIuYUN4
https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=TcvEDx78lyM
https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=RWU_MU57qlc
https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=nlkkG80hGdk

These are my jam

big_smile

Especially when I want to feel inspired.

For sleeping, not all of the soundtracks, but 75% of them

https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=TimQ7ONtawQ

Same purpose, sleep:

https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=OyHqGSO67wo

Some of the foreboding creepy ones that don't change tempo/volume very often fit this bill. Like sign of evil or the demon is dead.

xD

Btw, those links are also on youtube. that's just a frontend of youtube. Just a heads up also:

everything after https:// and before /watch can be changed to whatever frontend you prefer, even if that be youtube for that matter.

#475 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM KIT love fest » 2023-09-13 19:40:14

Still a very good window manager. I just would like to say thank you for making it 10x better than it already was. I may have said this before, but I felt the need to thank you again.

You also have done some interesting changes on my behalf which pleased me even more. big_smile

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