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#351 Re: Off-topic » How are you guys quoting posts? » 2024-08-30 17:05:29

Because less is preferable to more wink and perhaps the lack of a knee-jerk button will actually produce more thoughtful responses.

#352 Re: Off-topic » How are you guys quoting posts? » 2024-08-30 16:10:35

Order inevitably slides into chaos and then oblivion. Trying to micromanage just makes things worse. If users here are unable to quote specifically and intelligently that says more about our users than the software guiding them. And a software nanny is an inadequate tool to solve the problem.

#353 Re: Off-topic » How are you guys quoting posts? » 2024-08-29 17:32:43

Back-end or client-side bloat is never OK and full post quoting completely unnecessary.  Also I imagine that most folks here don't enable HTML email. I don' t on any of my accounts . . .

#356 Re: Devuan » Issues with the repo? » 2024-08-27 21:41:58

greenjeans wrote:

I miss wicd. :-(

It is waiting for someone to adopt and rewrite it for python3.  Forum members please take note and take ACTION! big_smile

#357 Re: News & Announcements » Excalibur testing isos » 2024-08-26 20:48:37

Yes, that will be a welcome contribution, greenjeans! However, the installer isos are an essential option so imperative to have testing isos built weekly. Still waiting for that to happen . . .  sad

#358 Re: News & Announcements » Excalibur testing isos » 2024-08-26 20:24:40

Just for clarification of the topic of this tread . . . these are the isos that need to be rebuilt for weekly testing. The process is so far above my skill-set it gives me vertigo to look at that page!

#359 Re: Off-topic » Gratitude » 2024-08-24 17:40:01

So good to see you greenjeans! It is such a blessing that we can live so close to and communicate with what's left of the natural world. I am familiar with the spider/scorpion in the tub rescue operation but so few get into the house, I still have to capture them to relocate them outside. I sure wish it was so easy to deal with the mosquitoes and ants . . . big_smile

Don't be a stranger, greenjeans!

#360 Re: Installation » Problems upgrading to Excalibur » 2024-08-20 18:26:00

Please use "code" tags in your posts.Thanks.

#361 News & Announcements » Excalibur testing isos » 2024-08-18 04:55:29

golinux
Replies: 8

You may have noticed that currently no Excalibur testing isos are available.

As soon as someone from the Devuan community steps up to do the weekly builds, they will be available again.

Details here: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_excalib … aller-iso/

Perhaps this is YOUR chance to be a hero!

#363 Re: Installation » Fresh Daedalus: No connection to PulseAudio » 2024-08-18 01:04:53

I hope that pulseaudio never becomes a depend. I have never used it and hopefully never will.

#364 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Strange window after start » 2024-08-18 00:18:17

@devujan . . . there are currently no excalibur testing isos because there is no one to build them . . . sad

#365 Re: Installation » Problems upgrading to Excalibur » 2024-08-17 15:37:52

Did you do the usrmerge before upgrading?

https://www.devuan.org/os/announce/exca … 02-20.html

That's why I'm still safely on Chimaera until the dust settles . . .

#366 Re: Off-topic » Gratitude » 2024-08-15 20:31:02

For those who have an interest, the disappearing web mystery is solved!

I know exactly what happens.

You likely have a Neoscona crucifera spider. An orb weaver. we have one of these in the window behind my desk chair.

Every evening spidy weaves its web for its nightly catch. In the early morning she eats her web and crawls up into some safe spot to spend the day.

I suspect I know where spidy is hiding but don't want to disturb her.

#367 Re: Off-topic » Gratitude » 2024-08-13 21:08:51

That may or may not be true. The spider may only have missed the appetizer . . . smile

I have a spider - don't know what kind but it is really fat - that has been building a web across and blocking my front door every night for most of the summer. I never see what it is catching because every morning when I get up the web has disappeared and there is no sign of its maker.  But by 11-12:00 at night, it is back. Not a problem for me because I never go out after dark. I also have bunnies in the yard that don't flinch even when I walk very close to them. They just keep chomping on the various native grasses. I've also had sparrows nest on my front porch. Always happy to provide protection from wind, rain and predators.

#368 Off-topic » Gratitude » 2024-08-12 14:54:45

golinux
Replies: 11

This arrived today from a good friend who lives in a wildlife sanctuary. The world would be a better place with more compassion like this. Brought tears to my eyes . . .

Yesterday I rescued a daddy long legs (DDL) from the argiope aurantia spider's web outside the kitchen window. I carefully picked off the pieces of sticky web stuck on its incredibly fragile legs.

When it was free, instead of hurrying away like every other DLL I've ever encountered this one stretched out along my finger and held on, caressing my finger.

After a few minutes I gently pried it over to a coil of rope on the side of the house.

I've never experienced such gratitude from a small 'bug' actually a form of arachnid, before. Other DDLs I rescue  just stagger away. This one may have seen my eyes through the optivisor I was wearing while I de-webbed it.

Sentience.

#369 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2024-08-09 22:09:58

@soren . . . looking forward to seeing what you can do with the rather rough mock up. I have another one here that is a little brighter but then I can discern one increment difference in a hex. smile I can add it to git or email to you. Also note that the image needs to be viewed and worked on full screen. Any other colors touching it will distort things because it is very subtle. And a request . . . please never use #FFFFFF or #000000.  Always add just a bit of the primary color so the elements blend instead of becoming visual "dead zones". Feel free to contact me on irc or through the forum mailer. Thanks again for stepping up to give it a try!

#370 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-08-09 17:50:50

quickfur wrote:

Also, the bug page doesn't offer a simple way to browse all currently-open bugs.

Of course it does. Did you not see this list which is on the index page of bugs.devuan.org? Note that I am not going to relink all those options in this post:

The following bug report indices are available:

    Packages with active and archived bug reports.
    Source packages with active and archived bug reports.
    Maintainers of packages with active and archived bug reports.
    Submitters of active and archived bug reports.

There is also detailed information in this resource: https://bugs.devuan.org/Developer.html

And also in git:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … aintainers

That is probably the clearest documentation I have ever seem anywhere! Sorry . . . no one-liners . . . wink

One more thing . . . our packages are built here https://jenkins.devuan.dev/job/devuan-package-builder/

#371 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2024-08-09 15:52:49

@soren . . . please see my response in OT.  All the color palettes for devuan theming are related to the release name in some way. Not random colors (or lack thereof). IRC is a good place for discussion . . .

#372 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-08-09 15:14:00

quickfur wrote:

How do I test a Devuan specific package?

There are two repositories where those packages go for testing - stable proposed-updates and experimental. See https://www.devuan.org/os/packages

quickfur wrote:

Does Devuan have a dedicated bug tracker besides the Debian one?

Of course! And there is a link to it at the very top of this page! https://bugs.devuan.org/ There is also a dedicated channel on IRC and a devuan-dev mailing list.

#373 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-08-09 14:59:07

soren wrote:

. . .  is the reason so much is needed to be done due to rebranding from debian to devuan?

The custom theme is to establish Devuan's identity from installation through the default desktop. The layout is the same for every release. Only the colors change to reflect the name of that particular Devuan distribution. I chose "deathmetal" because a sword - ie excalibur - is an instrument of death (and also a contemporary music genre). The colors are that of iron - I looked at a lot of ancient swords - with a touch of the matrix because humans never seem to progress in their behavior.

soren wrote:

I mean if its not done would debian artwork and graphics leak into the fork?

Debian customizations and default application artwork would probably take over . . . but I have never given it a try.

#374 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-08-09 01:42:39

What a great story! And good advice too. Sometime you just have to laugh to keep from crying . . .

As to what needs to be done . . . there is a general list at How you can help Devuan on this very forum. Engaged forum members who spend their time outside of OT help solve technical issues by reporting bugs or posting solutions. Some of those go to Debian and some are fixed in Devuan. Once the packages are rebuilt, new installer isos need to be created weekly so that the corrected packages can be tested by users. It is a weekly grind and currently only two devs are carrying the burden and have been for years. Some apprentices are definitely needed . . . think 'bus factor'. Join the devuan-dev mail list or #devuan-dev channel on Libera to stay current. It requires initiative and commitment and most importantly a love and appreciation of Devuan.

PS . . . I have "retired" after theming the first 5 Devuan releases. I did prepare a mockup of the "deathmetal" desktop background but sadly no one has volunteered to take it further even though I spent some hours creating a howto. sad

#375 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-08-08 21:31:21

If only Devuan's survival depended on jokes . . . sigh . . .

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