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#326 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta not booting in VM » 2023-12-27 12:09:31

There's a fix for refractasnapshot coming soon. Until then, another workaround is to remove the microcode package, make the snapshot iso, then install the microcode after you install a system on hardware. You could include the microcode packages in the iso to install them without a network connection if desired.

#327 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta not booting in VM » 2023-12-26 21:45:22

The Refracta iso not booting in VM is weird. Check the sha256sum to make sure the download was good. But that doesn't explain the other failures.

The script output suggests that you have a resume file in your initramfs. (remove_resume=yes) but I don't see a corresponding 'rm -f ...resume' in the section under "edit_initrd".  Run lsinitramfs | grep resume $initrd where $initrd is the full path to the initrd in the excalibur iso. If you mount the iso, it will be in $mountpoint/live/initrd.img. Or you could retrieve it from the build host (assuming you set save_work=yes in refractasnapshot.conf). It would be in /home/work/iso/live/initrd.img.

You could also look in the build system for /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume and see what's in it. If it exists, make sure it says RESUME=none inside or delete it, and then run update-initramfs -u You only need the resume file if you want to resume from disk hibernation, and you usually don't want that in your snapshot.

#328 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta not booting in VM » 2023-12-26 18:28:17

Oh, that log doesn't have enough in it. Please run refractasnapshot in debug mode. For the cli script, run refractasnapshot -d and if you used the graphical version, start it from a root terminal (or sudo) as refractasnapshot-gui -d

If the snapshots are being made on a system with a swap partition or an encrypted root filesystem, that might be causing a problem. I'd need to see the debug log to be sure.

Looking at the varied selection of isos that are not working, I'm thinking maybe it's a problem with virtualization. But that's a guess.

#329 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta not booting in VM » 2023-12-26 10:50:07

Are you using a custom kernel? If so, compare your kernel config file to the one for the stock kernel to see if something is missing.

It may be something in the way the isos were made. I boot isos in qemu and vbox all the time. The only thing that doesn't work well is if the VM is set to do a uefi boot. In that case, I have to go into the efi setup and find the actual file to boot.

Take a look at /var/log/refractasnapshot.log or let me look at it.

#330 Re: Installation » Installation from daedalus desktop-live boots to GRUB Rescue » 2023-12-22 16:43:05

@bobsmith
To become root, use su - and you will have root's PATH. Otherwise, you need to use the full path to the command: /usr/sbin/grub-install

If you post or paste or send me refractainstaller.log I might be able to see what the problem is. (If you use the cli installer, please start it as 'refractainstaller -d' to get a more verbose error log. Thanks.)

#331 Devuan Derivatives » live-build from debian » 2023-12-21 21:01:38

fsmithred
Replies: 0

We removed the fork on live-build. Debian versions are/will be available in devuan repo. Ceres now has 1:20230502

If this was not the right thing to do, please let me know.

#332 Re: Off-topic » Refracta-SnapShot - Question » 2023-12-16 10:42:18

The extra zcat was needed at the time it was added because the microcode put an extra layer on the initrd.img. I guess that got fixed and snapshot needs to be changed again. That section of code also needs to support the new compression, zstd.

Thanks for posting this.

#333 Re: Devuan » New Devuan user here » 2023-12-14 20:01:46

Hi and welcome to Devuan!

We only have around a dozen people maintaining forked packages, and that load keeps getting bigger. If you ever get the urge to start developing again, it would probably be easy for you to find something to do around here.

From what I've seen, migrations from debian to devuan are a crap-shoot. I think it depends on what all you have installed. Upgrades and fresh installs are a lot more reliable.

In general, I think devuan is more like debian than debian is. I think you'll feel at home here.

#334 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Claws-mail themes after upgrade to Daedalus » 2023-12-14 19:35:50

I'm not seeing any weird behavior with claws mail. I was going to post this a few hours ago and include the warning that my results might not match yours because I'm using lxqt with openbox. Now I see you're using the same.

I have the sapphire theme selected in the openbox settings (and in openbox configuration manager) and silver theme selected in lxqt preferences.
This is daedalus on ASUS EEE netbook, 1366x768 display.

#335 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Dozens of lxqt-config-monitor processes are started » 2023-12-12 20:37:53

I don't think it's normal behavior, but I'm not sure. My lxqt is minimal. I can't tell you off the top of my head which parts I left out, but I do have lxqt-powermanagement and lxqt-config-monitor. I do not have xscreensaver installed. I'm using openbox as the window manager.

lxqt-powermanagement is running. Watching top in an ssh session from another machine, I did not see lxqt-config-monitor run when the screen blanked. Screen blanking is set in the power manager settings. Nothing shows up in ~/.xsession-errors when the screen goes blank or when it comes back on.

Here's what I have installed with lxqt in the package name. Let me know if you think of something else you want me to check.

ii  liblxqt-globalkeys-ui1:i386        1.2.0-1                                i386         daemon used to register global keyboard shortcuts (ui files)
ii  liblxqt-globalkeys1:i386           1.2.0-1                                i386         daemon used to register global keyboard shortcuts (shared libs)
ii  liblxqt1:i386                      1.2.0-8                                i386         Shared libraries for LXQt desktop environment (libs)
ii  lxqt-config                        1.2.0-1+b1                             i386         LXQt system settings center
ii  lxqt-globalkeys                    1.2.0-1                                i386         daemon used to register global keyboard shortcuts (appl.)
ii  lxqt-notificationd                 1.2.0-1                                i386         LXQt notification daemon
ii  lxqt-panel                         1.2.1-1                                i386         LXQt desktop panel
ii  lxqt-policykit                     1.2.0-1                                i386         LXQt authentication agent for PolicyKit
ii  lxqt-powermanagement               1.2.0-1                                i386         power management module for LXQt
ii  lxqt-qtplugin:i386                 1.2.0-3+b2                             i386         LXQt system integration plugin for Qt
ii  lxqt-session                       1.2.0-3                                i386         session manager component for LXQt
ii  lxqt-system-theme                  1.2.0-1                                all          System theme for LXQt
ii  lxqt-themes                        1.2.0-1                                all          Themes for LXQt

#336 Re: Devuan Derivatives » New Refracta ISOs » 2023-12-11 22:46:11

Looks like it's working correctly. You get automatic login in the live-isos. You picked a nox iso, so there's No X. You can run commands. In the live session you can use sudo for any commands or you can use su to become root. The root password is root and the user password is user in case you need it.

Next you should run mocp and listen to half a minute of Dark Star.

If you want to install it, sudo refractainstaller will work.

#337 Re: Installation » Live cd unable to boot with secure boot enabled » 2023-12-09 20:42:05

Yes, it's isohybrid. I installed grub-efi-amd64-signed and shim-signed, which pulled in a couple other things. I assume the kernel is signed because there is no kernel package linux-image-*-signed, but there is an -unsigned kernel package. I did not install the -unsigned.

Edit:
When I get to fast internet, I'll download debian-live to compare.

#338 Re: Off-topic » Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle! » 2023-12-09 18:40:23

OK, that's nice that you don't have an overheating problem, but the point I was trying to make is that if you want to reduce cpu load, you can stop letting a bunch of strangers use your cpu. Javascript is executable code that gets run on your computer and is provided by people you don't know.

#339 Re: Off-topic » Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle! » 2023-12-09 15:25:38

A friend was having an overheating problem with her computer. CPU activity was always high. She typically had more than a dozen tabs open in firefox.

I added NoScript and showed her how to use it. CPU activity and temperatures dropped immediately.

#340 Re: Installation » Live cd unable to boot with secure boot enabled » 2023-12-08 16:35:48

I put the iso on my old website because it was easier to get there from the build host.,
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … p-live.iso

sha256sum

4fb0a40a6f58e358e00e940e3ac6c1112ef450dffdcb509bd0df6949041b477c  devuan_daedalus_5.0-signed-test_amd64_desktop-live.iso

#341 Re: Installation » Live cd unable to boot with secure boot enabled » 2023-12-07 21:55:43

If I make a desktop-live iso with signed grub and kernel, will you test it for me? I am unable to test secure boot.
I could have it ready in a day or two and post a link here.

Thanks.

#342 Re: DIY » [SOLVED] Weather display in conky, a simple one-line-of-code solution » 2023-12-04 03:02:32

Hint: "\n" means newline.

$ curl wttr.in/Miner?format="Condition:+%C\nTemperature:+%t\n"
Condition: Overcast
Temperature: -2°C

#343 Re: DIY » [SOLVED] Devuan ROOT Only Linux Hyper-Gamer Install » 2023-12-04 00:12:26

Asking to see benchmarks to support performance claims if they're not already provided is not harassment. It's standard procedure in all sciences.

#344 Re: DIY » [SOLVED] Weather display in conky, a simple one-line-of-code solution » 2023-12-03 21:59:52

I use weather-util to get the weather and dump it in a file. Then I let conky pick lines from the file.

wrapper script: (get-weather)

#!/usr/bin/env bash

if [ -n "$1" ] ; then
	station="$1"
else
	station="klax"
fi

weather -v "$station"

~/.conkyrc lines

{color}${execi 1800 /home/fred/bin/get-weather > .current_weather}   ${execi 1800 awk '/Temperature/ { print $0 }' .current_weather }     ${execi 1800 awk '/Humidity/ { print $0 }' .current_weather} 

or

${color}${execi 1800 /home/fred/bin/get-weather.sh > .current_weather} ${color}${execi 1800 cat .current_weather | grep -E "United|Wind|Sky|Temperature|Dew|Humidity|Pressure"}

Hmm... that first one isn't working right for me. Something wrong with my alighment or width. Play with the output if you want. I'm using the second one.

If you want to see the whole .conkyrc, I'll show you, but I think you can find multiple examples somewhere on this forum. I'm sure there have been some discussions.

#345 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-11-29 19:18:53

There's also a devuan-bugs mailing list, but it's not archived like some of the others.

If someone wants to see the latest bug reports without joining a mail list, you can see the archived messages at
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-dev.en.html

#346 Re: Documentation » How to: Devuan 5 Daedalus an pipewire » 2023-11-28 22:48:41

I don't have .xsessionrc either. I'm using xfce, so I put the start commands in a script and added that script to my desktop startup applications.

It looks like this. Give it a name, make it executable, put it in your path (/usr/local/bin or ~/bin if you have one) and add that script to your startup apps.

#!/usr/bin/env bash

wireplumber &

pipewire &

pipewire-pulse &

You'll need to exit the desktop and log in again for it to take effect. If you still have no sound, run pavucontrol and check the settings, and/or run alsamixer in a terminal and check the settings - F6 will let you select the audio device.

#347 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Creating a VM using GPT partitions » 2023-11-28 19:18:14

On virtual hardware, you would boot from a virtual optical disk by attaching a bootable iso file (probably a live-iso). Then you could do whatever you need to do to the virtual hard disk. That's how it works with virtualbox and qemu. I haven't used vmware since debian etch, but I assume it will let you do the same.

I think you're worrying about a non-existent problem. If you ever need more than 2T of space, you could just attach a larger virtual disk and move part of the filesystem onto it. You don't need 2T for the operating system.

#348 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Creating a VM using GPT partitions » 2023-11-28 17:41:32

I can't check that, but I can suggest that you partition the disk manually as gpt using gdisk or gparted. Then when you run the installer, you can select the partitions you created.

If you use gpt with legacy bios boot, you need a special partition, at least 1MB size, with no filesystem on it ("unformatted" in gparted) and with a flag of ef02 (in gdisk) or bios_grub (in gparted).

#349 Re: Other Issues » Seriously? » 2023-11-27 19:05:22

Hey Amne! If you look back at the 'apt policy' output I requested, you'll see he did use "daedalus" in sources.list. For unstable, it doesn't matter if you use the codename or not. sid/ceres/unstable is always sid/ceres/unstable. Because it's always  changing, it's always the same.

#350 Re: Installation » how to get a team work between refractasnapshot and refracta2usb? » 2023-11-27 18:57:56

Unfortunately, if you run your system in a different language, refracta tools will still be in English. Sorry about that.

The two most likely ways to use refracta2usb are the following options:

ISO_!   04   Create Live-USB from unpacked CD image.
This will unpack the iso file and copy some files to a directory that you name on the usb. If the iso file is bootable by both uefi and legacy bios, both of those methods will be copied to the usb. If the iso does not boot uefi, then only the syslinux bootloader will be added.

or

ISO_2    05  Create Live-USB using intact iso and findiso boot option
This will copy the iso file to the usb and use the findiso option from live-boot to locate the .iso file and boot that. The difference is that filesystem.squashfs is not visible like it is in the ISO_1 option. It also make the intact iso file available for easily sharing it with someone.

The directory structure on the USB will be something like the following if you were to use both methods listed above. This multi-boot USB has two live systems on it. Refracta8_amd64 was added to the usb using the ISO_1 option, and jessie-ice was added using the ISO_2 method. Either system will boot on uefi or legacy bios with this setup.

	
	|── boot
	│   └── grub
	│       ├── efiboot.img
	│       ├── font.pf2
	│       ├── grub.cfg
	│       ├── splash.png
	│       └── x86_64-efi
	|── efi
	│   └── boot
	│       └── bootx64.efi
	├── jessie_ice
	│   ├── initrd.img
	│   ├── jessie-ice-template-20170103_1454.iso
	│   └── vmlinuz
	├── refracta8_amd64
	│   ├── live
	│   │   ├── filesystem.squashfs
	│   │   ├── initrd.img
	│   │   ├── memtest
	│   │   ├── vmlinuz
	│   └── pkglist_refracta8_xfce_amd64_rc1-20160923_1334
	│       └── package_list
	└── syslinux
	    ├── live.cfg[c][/c]
	    ├── (other files)

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