How about volumeicon-alsa? It works with PA & PipeWire as well, despite the name. No idea about Cinnamon though. That should have it's own volume control, I think.

Btw pure ALSA should work just fine unless you're video conferencing. I don't use any sound servers and everything works, even under systemd.

So don't install it then.

The zeitgeist package is not installed by default in any of the desktop environments and it won't work properly in bare window manager desktops so this seems to be a complete non-issue.

Here is a list of the packages which will pull in zeitgeist:

$ aptitude search ~Dzeitgeist
p  budgie-applications-menu-applet - Stylish Applications Menu for Budgie-Desktop
p  cairo-dock-recent-events-plug-in - Recent events plug-in for Cairo-dock
p  diodon - GTK+ Clipboard manager
p  gir1.2-zeitgeist-2.0 - library to access Zeitgeist - GObject introspection data
p  gnome-activity-journal - graphical user interface for Zeitgeist
p  libdiodon0 - GTK+ Clipboard manager (main library)
p  liblomiri-app-launch0 - library for sending requests to Lomiri App Launch
p  libzeitgeist-2.0-dev - library to access Zeitgeist - development files
p  libzeitgeist-cil-dev - CLI bindings for Zeitgeist Project - development files
p  lomiri-app-launch - User space daemon for launching applications
p  lomiri-app-launch-tools - Tools for working wtih launched applications
p  python3-zeitgeist - event logging framework - Python 3 bindings
p  synapse - semantic file launcher
p  zeitgeist - event logging framework
p  zeitgeist-core - event logging framework - engine
p  zeitgeist-datahub - event logging framework - passive logging daemon
$

So unless any of those packages are installed zeitgeist will not be present.

Any tinfoil consumers can use this file at /etc/apt/preferences.d/stop-zeitgeist:

Package: zeitgeist*
Pin: version *
Pin-Priority: -1

^ That will stop any zeitgeist packages from ever being installed.

If the zeitgeist pakcage is installed then this file at ~/.config/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop will stop zeitgeist-datahub from starting in full desktop environments:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Zeitgeist Datahub
Comment=Start the Zeitgeist Datahub for passive loggers
Exec=zeitgeist-datahub
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Hidden=true

The zeitgeist services can be masked with

systemctl --user mask zeitgeist{,-fts}

Masking a service under systemd means it can never be started, even if called by DBus or another service. Debian packages will never run unmask, even for system services, and certainly not for user services, so that modification would be permanent.

The bad news is that sysvinit/runit/s6/OpenRC can't do masking, they have no concept of that very useful feature.

EDIT: spelling, removed misinformation.

Xfce 4.18:

EDIT: a bit better than stock:

EDIT2: looks like archey3 can't handle X and Wayland both running at the same time

Shared memory usage in Linux is complicated, check the ps_mem code comments for details.

Looks like X is bloated for some reason. Can we see the log?

To check memory usage try https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem.

EDIT: also:

awk '/Rss/{Total+=$2} END {print Total/1024" MiB"}' /proc/*/smaps

Useless use of cat and useless use of grep. We don't need no stinkin' pipes...

@aluma: does the phrase "apples & oranges" mean anything to you?

And at any rate I don't think kernel & initramfs hacking should be within Devuan's remit. Sounds like overstretch to me.

Just FYI: my ROCK Pi S aarch64 board does not support UEFI and I'm sure there are others that don't.

Might I ask where the source for the ISO image is? The GitHub repository tarball only contains the README.md file.

Dear me, what a bloat monster

So block the amdgpu module and use VESA in X instead then.

I tried this with https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Tearing-test.webm and the tearing in the console is absolutely atrocious, completely unbearable. Under Wayland (sway) that same video running in the same player is perfectly smooth with no tearing (or lag) whatsoever. This is with amdgpu and an AMD Cezanne iGPU. And the non-free firmware :-)

EDIT: and I couldn't get the console output to work without adding my user to the video group, which is completely unacceptable.

Just as under the Wayland protocol then.

As a gamer I can happily confirm this. Linux is now a better platform for gaming than Windows, which pleases me much more than these shiny new toys irritate you.

Are you still using Atril as the image viewer or did you change to Evince?

If you are still using Atril as the image viewer and installing Evince fixed a bug in Atril then you should report that as a bug in the Atril package to the Debian maintainer using the reportbug package. See also https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.

Please open a new thread for backup solutions (or search the boards to read the extant threads on that subject). This thread is waaaaaaaay off topic now.

Very nice genxr :-)

My usual Arch desktop:

Firefox, Steam and two foot terminals running oksh locally and mksh over ssh to my music player.

I've just updated the upmpdcli package for Debian buster:

https://software.opensuse.org//download … e=upmpdcli

Upstream does have a buster repository but the current version won't build for buster because they've added a configuration GUI. My version strips out the GUI and Spotify support but does build for buster. Yay.

Running mpd & upmpdcli on the ROCK Pi S music player lets me stream Qobuz to it (and then to my DAC) from my smartphone using BubbleUPnP. Very civilised.

EDIT: 10 bonus points to anybody who can identify the book I'm reading in Firefox. No Googling!

Because I couldn't be bothered. sorry to waste your time.