Don't do this with Chimaera:

W: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-amd64/Packages'
 as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease'
 doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware'
 (component misspelt in sources.list?)

Edit: reset since code is too stupid to wrap lines to the page

Sounds like port-80 is blocked for external traffic. But of course, that would mean that nf_tables (or something) is running.

Sorry, but cannot help. I was competent with the old firewall, but know nothing about the new one(s).

Did you copy-paste those errors? There is a syntax error in the 2nd (s/b '<control>O', or perhaps 'Ctrl-O', not '<constrol>O').

Hi Geoff 42

It must be some other feature of your system that is preventing install of that version. I have the precise same sources.list as you, yet and have the 2.31-13+deb11u4 version for libc6 (note that my system is AMD, not intel):

$ sudo apt-cache policy
(snip)
500 http://deb.devuan.org/devuan chimaera-proposed-updates/main amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0.0,o=Devuan,a=chimaera-proposed-updates,n=chimaera-proposed-updates,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
(snip)
$ apt search libc6 | head -n 3

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

Sorting...
Full Text Search...
libc6/stable,now 2.31-13+deb11u4 amd64 [installed]

PS
I also wondered why that single line was different to all others in the wiki!

(update)
Realising that I made an error (the update you are talking of is 2.31-13+deb11u5, not u4) I changed the proposed-updates line to match all others, then re-ran the apt update that had already been ran 5 minutes before. The results were startling:

$ ~/.update
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security InRelease
Hit:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates InRelease
Hit:4 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt alldist InRelease
Get:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates InRelease [26.6 kB]
Hit:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports InRelease
Get:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates/main amd64 Packages [70.3 kB]
Get:8 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates/main Translation-en [38.4 kB]
Get:9 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates/non-free Translation-en [10.9 kB]
Get:10 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates/contrib Translation-en [499 B]
Fetched 147 kB in 2s (94.0 kB/s)                          
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
10 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libbluray2 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc-l10n libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i386 locales shim-helpers-amd64-signed shim-unsigned
10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
(snip)
$ apt search libc6 | head -n 3

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

Sorting...
Full Text Search...
libc6/stable-proposed-updates,now 2.31-13+deb11u5 amd64 [installed]

Wow! I've been missing out on a lot of updates. Thanks.

Ogis1975's is a reasonable question to ask.

If you get offended by the question then

1. That is the response of a child, not of a grown adult

2. No-one can ever then expect that you will take this matter seriously & responsibly

3. The future then will be filled with an infinite repetition of these (and other) issues, with zero fix in sight

Now yes, of course, you also get idiotic responses from entitled fools that have zero respect for the continual efforts of unpaid volunteers on their behalf. Those people do not deserve any respect, but that does not mean that Ogis1975's question is not a reasonable one to ask.

Many thanks to Ralph for his continual efforts on Devuan's behalf. It is a new venture & I fully expect bumps along the road. As long as things continually improve I have few complaints & immense gratitude for the simple fact that it is available to the world & to me.

I advise you most strongly not to bother.

This is the result of a youtube-dl (local) upgrade attempt just now:

sudo /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl -U
youtube-dl is up-to-date (2021.12.17)

It has been abandoned & no longer will download most YT videos. Use yt-dlp instead (available via backports):

man yt-dlp
NAME
       yt-dlp - A youtube-dl fork with additional features and patches
# …
$ yt-dlp --version
2022.08.19

Like a Bulldog (and also a rat), once I get my teeth into something I cannot stop biting until my teeth meet (ratchet mechanism on their jaws).

Surprisingly, this topic has *everything* to do with SystemD (if only in reverse), since the virus has taken over from the kernel the process of producing Virtual Terminals (VTs), just like so much else.

In Devuan, the kernel produces a whole bunch of VTs on startup. The precise number will be a kernel setup item. For myself it seems to be 64 (see Ralph's answer), although there are also a few extra:

$ ls /dev/tty[0-9]* | wc -l
64
$ la /dev/tty*
crw-rw-rw- 1 root  tty     5,  0 Aug 25 08:40 /dev/tty
crw--w---- 1 root  tty     4,  0 Aug 25 08:40 /dev/tty0
crw------- 1 alexk tty     4,  1 Aug 26 18:23 /dev/tty1
crw--w---- 1 root  tty     4, 10 Aug 25 08:40 /dev/tty10
…
crw--w---- 1 root  tty     4,  9 Aug 25 08:40 /dev/tty9
crw-rw---- 1 root  dialout 4, 64 Aug 25 08:40 /dev/ttyS0
crw-rw---- 1 root  dialout 4, 65 Aug 25 08:40 /dev/ttyS1
crw-rw---- 1 root  dialout 4, 66 Aug 25 08:40 /dev/ttyS2
crw-rw---- 1 root  dialout 4, 67 Aug 25 08:40 /dev/ttyS3

We now need to consider delgado's answer, and it has taken me quite some time to get the point.

When the computer is first started, the screen that appears is a VT initiated (as best as I can tell) by agetty via init:

My system uses XFCE as a Desktop Manager and SLiM as a Login Manager. Therefore it is startxfce4 for me rather than startx, but the point is that an X-Session is launched which provides the GUI components in both cases, and that is comprehensively different to agetty, which is text-only.

With hindsight it is blooming obvious, but the VT produced by agetty has absolutely nothing to do with the terminal produced by xterm (or in my case, xfce-terminal) which is a GUI emulation of a text-terminal. For those that are interested in historical research, this is what it took to drive a text-terminal (aka typewriter) in the 1960s:

The main difference is that a VT does NOT have a mouse, nor history support. It is possible, though damn difficult, to install them. It is, however, important to know which of the two (VT or GUI-Terminal) you are in, because the commands to switch between VT & GUI are different depending on whether you are based within a GUI or VT screen:

• VT → VT : Ctrl + Alt + F7 or, Alt + F7  (switch to VT07, etc) (Ctrl key is optional)

• VT → GUI : Ctrl + Alt + F7 or, Alt + F7  (switch to VT07, etc) (Ctrl key is optional)

• GUI → VT : Ctrl + Alt + F7 (switch to VT07, etc) (all 3 keys required)

By default, most systems keep 6 text VTs available (at 1-6) and one GUI at '7', so the return in a default system is Ctrl-F7. However, this can be changed (just open another X-Session) and, worse, some distributions change the setup. Yikes! This page has good info on the command to change VTs, etc. (CHVT), and make a note that the TTY command gives a different result in Devuan to SystemD distros:

$ tty
/dev/pts/0

so make a note of the pgrep -a Xorg command that ralph gave.

It seems clear, then, that it is Xorg that handles 3-finger salutes to change from the GUI to a VT, but (perhaps) agetty that handles 2-finger salutes to switch out of the VT to another VT/GUI.

Many thanks, Ralph.

Ctl-Alt-F1 got me to a text-screen under vt07; all that was on the screen was a prompt to login. All it (appeared to) accept as input was a username, then password, although on later testing Alt-F7 did actually return me to the xfce4-session under vt07.

Trying w + pgrep just now from an ordinary terminal:

$ w
 10:14:06 up 1 day,  1:34,  1 user,  load average: 0.63, 0.64, 0.81
USER     TTY      FROM             LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
alexk    :0.0     :0.0             Thu08   ?xdm?   7:53m  1.02s xfce4-session
$ pgrep -a Xorg
1899 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -nolisten tcp -auth /var/run/slim.auth vt07

That result for w is exactly what I got during my dilemma after the text login for the abandoned session. It neatly explains why I could not understand which TTY the XFCE Session was running under.

Whether Alt-F7 would have got me back *after* login I do not yet know. I also do not understand why exit following login did not shut down vt01 & drop me back into the still-running vt07 session. I see from man Xorg that Xorg supplies the Ctl-Alt-Fn commands, but I also still do not know which program is supplying the Alt-Fn command. So many questions.

Edit: fixed key combos

Why? What does it do? Where is the link to the documentation that it sits within?

Thanks for trying, Gregors, but an unreferenced reply is worthless.

These are two sites I referenced from FF:

1. Command line to return to the GUI after Ctrl-Alt-F1?

2. How to switch between the X sessions by only-using the command line?

$ locate avoid-systemd
/etc/apt/preferences.d/avoid-systemd
#
$ apt-cache search devuan-baseconf
devuan-baseconf - Devuan base config files
$ apt-cache showpkg devuan-baseconf
Package: devuan-baseconf
Versions: 
0.6.4+devuan3.1 (/var/lib/apt/lists/deb.devuan.org_merged_dists_chimaera_main_binary-amd64_Packages) (/var/lib/dpkg/status)

Already installed. I do full-system updates daily.

Oh. I was wondering where all your nonsense was coming from. Then I listened to the latest Rachel Maddow Highlights (Jul 25, 2022) where she was introducing Gerald LK Smith & his Christian Nationalism from the 1950s, and the way that the far right in America are newly re-introducing it, together with it's rampant racism & antisemitism, and I understood. Same old, same old again, and again.

No thanks.