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#2901 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell » 2018-01-27 03:20:18

@fungus . . . you live in your own world and think it is reality.  It is YOUR reality but don't assume it is the one commonly shared by others.  You proclaim judgmental conclusions and are convinced they are fact and ramble on about constructs that only exist in your head. It is not my job (or anyone else's here to "report" what your issues are.  How can one possibly do that without having personally experienced the problem.  Only YOU can do that.  So man up and just report what you are dealing with through more appropriate channels where it will get attention.  Your rather self-defeating approach reminded me of this:

Someone was searching for something on the ground. “What have you lost?” a passerby asked. “My key,” said the searcher. So they both went down on their knees and looked for it. After a time the other man asked: “Where exactly did you drop it?” “In my own house.” “Then why are you looking here?” “There is more light here than inside my own house.”

PS.  Are you or are you not Fungal-net on DNG.

#2902 Re: Devuan » Users and Groups Applet » 2018-01-27 01:16:11

I have it running on jessie and wish that I could find it for ascii.  Anyway . . . i can look at some of the data as user but if i try to make a change it ALWAYS asks for my root PW.   If you are able to make changes without being root, something is not right.

FTR, I tried to install the jessie version on ascii and it failed . . .  sad

#2903 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell » 2018-01-26 22:09:24

cynwulf wrote:
golinux wrote:

Oh dear...

Some people should at least stick to software ideologies.

As you know, I'm not a Devuan user (or a Debian or Linux user) and you've known my opinions on this project from day one (so once again, thank you for tolerating my continued presence)

You are always welcome in this house.  Your experience and ability to see the big picture as in this post adds real value to our collective effort.

. . . but any project founded on "anti" sentiment is pretty much doomed from the start.

We try to frame it otherwise but have no control over others' views and opinions.

This forum seems to be keeping it technical, it's getting it right thus far

Thanks.  We're trying our best. 

. . .it surprises me that such crap is being posted on the mailing lists...

Since that meltdown there has been almost none of that.  The moon must have been in a weird phase or something.  These days there is an occasional snipe but most discussion is technical and cordial.

#2904 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell » 2018-01-26 20:42:15

The devs working on pkgmaster don't frequent this forum so you are the sound of one hand clapping.  If you don't post the info elsewhere - DNG, bugs.devuan.org or irc channels - those who should be seeing it never will.  That's what you'll need to do if you actually want to contribute instead of just complaining . . .

#2905 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell » 2018-01-26 17:35:02

cynwulf wrote:
fungus wrote:

I want nothing to do with DNG premadonas and their tolerance to neonazis and intolerance to those who tried to block neonazi propaganda and got the boot from the list!!!!   REMEMBER!  We do not forget we don't forgive, easily!

Links or it didn't happen.

Here you go.

#2906 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell » 2018-01-26 17:12:53

fungus wrote:

I want nothing to do with DNG premadonas and their tolerance to neonazis and intolerance to those who tried to block neonazi propaganda and got the boot from the list!!!!   REMEMBER!  We do not forget we don't forgive, easily!

Then you will have a miserable life, my friend.  Aren't you now Fungal-net on DNG?

fungus wrote:

I am sure your consciousness will not keep this a secret from them, as it has been YOU and Katolaz who have come here and ensured us that pkgmaster is fully bug-free and the onion address had for a while being identical to http-pkgmaster.

IT ISN't

http pkpmaster was showing 0 upgrades, 0 to be removed, 0 to be installed.
Only change was https and onion address part in source.list .... then it all went to hell like I had changed distributions.
This has been identified and reported here on the forum several times already and YOUR response was something done wrong by me.

Then file a bug report with the needed information.

Go ask for me to be unblocked on the list and I will happily copy paste this in their face!
And the neonazi polak propagandist better not be there!

I don't even see you on the DNG member list anymore.

Maybe go take a nap and get out of the other side of the bed when you wake up.

#2907 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell » 2018-01-25 21:32:44

That's because you're posting in the wrong place.  Try posting to DNG.

#2908 Re: Installation » Palemoon a browser that doesn't convince! » 2018-01-25 21:28:49

surf2 is in the devuan repos but perhaps not the main ones.

#2909 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Conversation about "officially" launching a devuan derivative » 2018-01-25 21:17:06

You should be more concerned about Palemoon's licensing than Devuan's.  Though MX may have taken care of that for you.

#2910 Re: Off-topic » [QUESTION] UKUI DE in Devuan? » 2018-01-23 20:23:53

If you don't support systemd, why would you be promoting it?  *scratches head*  BTW, "rude" is a personal judgment with no factual basis.

#2911 Re: Off-topic » [QUESTION] UKUI DE in Devuan? » 2018-01-23 16:56:26

jonaspm wrote:

Hello guys, I see that UKUI is systemd based... Didn't know that thanks!

If you're promoting an OS how can you or the writer of that blog not know something so basic? I searched for "UKUI systemd" and nothing came up.  fungus dug a little deeper. Users who think like this treat their computer as an APPLIANCE and really don't give a toss what's under the hood.  These are the same mindless users that take whatever MS or UKUI gives them.  Mainstreaming Linux for users like that will be its undoing.

Just FYI . . . an oldie but goodie

#2912 Re: Other Issues » Vanilla KDE Jessie Devuan system prompts for USB pen drives. » 2018-01-23 00:01:20

KDE is a bit broken in Jessie. We're hoping to have it working in Ascii.  Please see this mail thread for discussion.  You might want to join the ML for the most up-to-date progress reports.  You might also consider upgrading to ascii to help with the testing.

#2913 Re: Off-topic » [QUESTION] UKUI DE in Devuan? » 2018-01-22 18:53:03

Thanks.  It's obviously a non-starter here.

#2914 Re: Off-topic » [QUESTION] UKUI DE in Devuan? » 2018-01-22 16:09:50

fungus wrote:

Through many funky desktop environments there are themes that simulate the aesthetics of Win XP,vista.7,8,10 and if people like this to adopt from one system to the other I find nothing wrong with them.

It attracts a certain mindset.  Just look how that has worked out for Debian, Ubuntu etc. - a slow side downhill into a consumer-oriented winland parallel universe.

The fact that off the start the crappy desktop fork is loaded with systemd, pulse, gnome etc. is enough to not want to know much about it.

There was no mention of systemd in that stupid blog.  And there's little that Google could find.  Is this an assumption or fact?

If someone finds it important enough to make it systemd-free so it would be functional 100% in Devuan I don't see why that would be bad.

Why?  We already have Mate.

When you hear people saying that without systemd this and that will not work and that is their justification for not wanting to try anything but a systemd based system, then the more that works without it the less of a logical argument those trolls have.

This troll mentioned nothing of systemd so how could there be an argument about it?

#2915 Re: Off-topic » [QUESTION] UKUI DE in Devuan? » 2018-01-22 06:52:05

Meet The New Linux Desktop Environment Inspired by Windows 7?  Hahahaha!!!

Probably the wrong audience to ask that question.  There is not much love for either Ubuntu or Windows in this camp.  Personally I would NEVER use anything that reminded me of either one.   But I see where that might be an asset for those want turning Linux into a Windows style OS for the drooling masses.

#2916 Re: Off-topic » What's the point to keep maintaining DEVUAN? » 2018-01-21 20:28:18

@spartrekus.git . . . why exactly are you here?

#2917 Re: Installation » sans-dbus, Questions, Tips and Tricks on its Implementation » 2018-01-17 22:38:33

miroR wrote:

And I don't even remember where I posted that I would contact dev1fanboy about something related to sans-dbus. I can tell that I tried (and contacted wrong Devuaner instead -- Ralph Ronquest I PM'ed, having mixed the nicknames somehow...

Hi miroR . . . I sent a short email to dev1fanboy asking him to have a look at your post..

#2918 Re: Other Issues » Meltdown and Spectre » 2018-01-14 00:31:09

fungus wrote:
golinux wrote:

@fungus . . . possibly PEBKAC?

What is PEBKAC?

https://classic.startpage.com//do/search?&query=PEBKAC

#2920 Re: Other Issues » Meltdown and Spectre » 2018-01-12 15:56:15

@fungus . . . possibly PEBKAC?

#2921 Re: Installation » Downgrading Ascii back to Jessie » 2018-01-11 21:57:41

I thought that could be done with pinning.  Search for "downgrade" on this forum and the botbot logs for irc freenode #devuan.

#2922 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] startx fails since upgrade to 4.9 kernel » 2018-01-11 16:45:57

This post is a bit old but if you have a troublesome 'skylake' chip, this may have something relevant:

Devuan stable and Skylake (and Kaby Lake?) integrated GPU

#2923 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Installing Musescore 2.1 AppImage on Miyo i3 Jessie 64bit. » 2018-01-11 09:01:25

devuan_dk_fan wrote:

This brings up the issue of Flatpaks as an alternative to AppImages. Is it possible to use Flatpaks and ensure that systemd stays off my system?

A two minute search found this:

Is Flatpak tied to systemd?
No. Versions of flatpak before 0.6.10 relied on systemd for cgroups setup, but this is no longer required.]

However, this is not so encouraging - guilty by association:

Its lead developer is Alex Larsson, Principal Engineer at Red Hat.

#2924 Re: Off-topic » The New Sourceforge... » 2018-01-10 03:06:58

I think they took lessons from tapatalk.   Stylish will let you change all the colors.  Or just hide those elements with AdBlock Plus

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