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I get a warning an update is available, then I download it and install firefox (non-esr)
I got it from here to begin, then I just use the update function with firefox.
https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/
Anything with a 'b' in the version is beta... and may be unstable.
here is my proceedure...
cd /home/glenn/Downloads
wget https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/121.0/linux-x86_64/en-GB/firefox-121.0.1.tar.bz2
mv /home/glenn/Downloads/firefox-121.0.1.tar.bz2 /home/glenn/local/archive/source/
# archived : /home/glenn/local/archive/source/firefox-121.0.1.tar.bz2
cd /opt
tar xfj /home/glenn/local/archive/source/firefox-121.0.1.tar.bz2
# remove the old firefox links
mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefoxold
# or after backup of bookmarks and passwordz
# apt remove firefox-esr
# create new link
ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
I hope this helps.
On my 121.1 ver of firefox the update options are near the bottom of the General Page.
My point is, the update options are still available in ver 121.x... if you can't find it, check url about:config and search there.
Hi,if you have more than one OS, using Legacy mode may be problematic.
When I choose an .iso image I try to make sure it boots in legacy-mode at least.
When installing, some installers see UEFI or Legacy boot and setup grub for that purpose.
I have used PcLinux for many years (Mandriva before that),and I think it can also do both types (they have a pretty good installer program, imo).
Then I use an "unsigned" linux-image as soon as possible (apt update and upgrade same ver).
The other nag, is the other OS's change the system time... and that screws up all the other OS's updates... timestamps.
I try to keep it simple. (I stayed with lilo boot-loader until it was no longer a viable install choice)
If win7 is non-uefi you're ahead.
It's handy to have fastboot off until you get it sorted... but secureboot=off and CSM=on (Legacy Boot)
I use GPT partitioning and seems to me, independent of Boot-Loader, mbr is old and insecure. And a lot easier to edit.
My 2c. I hope you get it sorted. :-)
Osho - Yoga, The Science Of The Soul. (2002)
Hi, you can make the changes to /etc/asound.conf, by using
~/.asoundrc
defaults.ctl.card 0
defaults.pcm.card 0
defaults.timer.card 0
use your researched values...
~/.asoundrc has precedence over /etc/asound.conf
I use this to Not use hdmi (desktop-tower, not laptop)... I've sure it works both ways.
Steve_v, I thought wireplumber was taking over the server-side of audio (and multimedia) i/o.
It's still very new to me...
Just to be clear, That ~.xsessionrc script was found here on this forum.
I stand on the shoulders of giants. It would be awfully quiet here with out them.
When I last did a clean install of Daedalus, last week I found I needed to install seatd
(I use sddm (X as root), and Plasma).
But upgrading from Chimaera did not have the same fault.
Hi, timidity works quite well. I had it installed for playing midi files... and jamming along.
using GS (software samples). I didn't have to do/change anything.
And today is the first time I've actually run timidity "test, check, one, two".
The scripts and links were from another devuan forum subscriber,
HoaS, to whom I respect immensely for his knowledge and willingness to help (as well as his sense of humour).
(I had an Aureal-3D card when I started to use linux... it was great for spatial 3D affects.)
I have alsa-utils alsa-ucm-conf alsa-topology-conf packages installed from the installation process(not me).
I hope you get it working, I never heard midi so nice. :-)
Hi. Kapqa, will you be upgrading each release before you move to the next version?
I think the Open Source nVidia module is called nouveau.
imo, it's only the installation of the Official-nVidia (.run) package that is a bit tricky sometimes.
DKMS can carry quite well, but I stopped using dkms a while back. Because I felt I didn't need all the dev stuff just for that.
I think if you upgrade each release as you go, you'll have a great weekend.
Cheers!
btw, my install steps are...
1. OS and GUI default, nouveau module gets loaded and configed
2. install dev packages and requirements for the required build environment, including any updates, reboot as needed.
3. copy text files from backup, grub, sysctl.conf, /etc/modprobe.d (nouveau blacklist entry)
4. reboot and at the grub prompt, to recovery-mode (use e to edit) adding "vga=794 modeset.nouveau=0 nokmsboot" to the last "linux=" line
5. install nvidia- .run package. reboot.
:-)
I hope this is helpfull
Thanks for that, good to know.
tbh, I'm quite used to the white screen now... and know one way, now 2... to get around it.
...make sure you have seatd installed.
Other than that, I'm not sure (I don't know).
Hi, I still think you may need to install that firmware correctly.
When you installed, did give the firmware .ucode at installation (early) off a usb-stick. Usually that sticks, and carries through to being installed.
With that iso, be aware SEATD did not install, and that gave me a black screen. I had to see the errors in the logs to find out the missing bits.
Have a look inside the package we were talking about, and check the text files for instal clues. It should install, but it may not be Auto-Magic.
I'm using plasma, not gnome... see how you go.
Hi, thanks for taking the time to post your story, I found it very informative.
I get that white screen too.
there is a small box on the left bottom of screen where you may select plasma-x11 or wayland...
It defaults to wayland, for gnome.
select plasma-x11 and put your password in, you know the rest.
after starting kde I install through setting a new background for sddm, I like the "neon" ones.
Oh, also x wouldn't start because seatd was not installed, couldn't find the screens.
I hope this helps.
p.s. the iso was devuan_daedalus_5.0.1_amd64_desktop
right-click, download.
If you're on the command line, you could try wget
change to the download directory and run wget <url>
cd/glenn/Downloads
wget https://kernel.googlesource.com/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/linux-firmware/+/b5f09bb4f816abace0227d0f4e749859364cef6b/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode
Then, as root move or copy it to where it belongs. It's a bit hackkky.
On my box it's at
/lib/firmware/
if required... mine does bt as well AND
that is located at the little i intel folder (on my quite fresh install of Dev5)
/lib/firmware/intel/
No "/lib/firmware/Intel" folder at all!
I have unpacked packages just to see what is in there... usually 2 folders, compiled-code and install control (what to do to install)
anyhow, I hope this helps.
I don't know enough about firmware...
you can unpack (decompress) the .deb package an put the file where it will be found.
/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode
Hi, the firmware I use is... and I keep a copy on usb-stick for installations...
file:///media/glenn/ED21-8671/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode
My wifi/bt pcie card, not on-board.
makesure you have "non-free-firmware" added to your sources... /etc/apt/sources.list
firmware-iwlwifi non-free-firmware 20230210-5 (i am using)
I hope this helps.
hello ,
ia m on fresh install of Devuan jessie on this laptop and it wont update since it is old laptop with graphics not supported by newer systems i suppose,
so my question is how can i best install newer firefox-esr (without need of huge dependencies) for devuan jessie?
it is because i want to turn into alsa-only laptop that i am not wanting to use the official firefox-esr ftp repository;
is is understanding that all the firefox-esr from devuan is alsa-only enabled,thanks
Hi kapqa, I'm using the firefox-latest release 121 and I use alsa-utils but with pipewire & wireplumber for sound.
as for downloading, usually I wait until firefox alerts me to an upgrade, (that's why the script uses /home/glenn/Downloads.)
if you care to look, there are many other versions there too.
here is my install proceedure,
#!/bin/bash
# sh "/home/glenn/build/firefox-from-git.sh"
echo "installing firefox-121.0.tar.bz2"
# https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/121.0/
#wget https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/xy.z/linux-x86_64/en-US/firefox-xy.z.tar.bz2
cd /home/glenn/Downloads
wget https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/121.0/linux-x86_64/en-GB/firefox-121.0.tar.bz2
mv /home/glenn/Downloads/firefox-121.0.tar.bz2 /home/glenn/local/archive/source/
# archived : /home/glenn/local/archive/source/firefox-121.0.tar.bz2
cd /opt
tar xfj /home/glenn/local/archive/source/firefox-121.0.tar.bz2
# remove the old firefox links
mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefoxold
# or after backup of bookmarks and passwordz
# apt remove firefox-esr
# create new link
ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
# copy statusBar script.
#rsync -avh /home/glenn/build/userChrome.css /opt/firefox/browser/chrome/
chmod -R 755 /opt/firefox
btw, I have firefox-esr installed as well, I just don't use it for much, internet-radio...
I hope this helps you.
I apologize for the offtopic.
This is not the first case of developers not caring about users. As a result, the distribution loses them (users). A commercial organization would have gone bankrupt long ago. Obviously there is no manager limiting the free flight of developers' imaginations and there is no incentive to make the distribution convenient for users.
I agree, seems like the "Quality Control" is up to the user, corporate fascism, it's the fashion!
ok i wanted to try and test
devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_amd64_desktop-live
but after boot there is black terminal screen and askin login and passwort.
is that normal?
normally the iso distros starts fully till i the the kde, xfce desktop.
The live-desktop passwords are in the a text file from the download page...
https://devuan.rosset.eu.org/devuan-fil … p-live.txt
You can burn the iso to DVD or use dd or cat to image a USB thumb drive.
User name: devuan Password: devuan
Admin name: root Password: toor
Maintained by fsmithred (key id 0xA73823D3094C5620 on pgp.mit.edu)
Built with the Devuan SDK, live-sdk module by jaromil and parazyd...
Generally, You wont need to login as a user, it should boot all the way to the desktop without asking, only root needs a PW.
If it won't boot, ... did you verify the download before you wrote it to a usb?
All the best.
I disable ipv6 the same way for my vpn.
But I don't have that other reference to an image.
you could comment (#) the reference and put the ipv6 command before the initrd...
initrd is supposed to speed up the loading of the kernel, and it does a little bit.
If it breaks you system-boot, then re-edit and try again.
All the best.
Hi, I have tried similar methods to install packages to maximise my investment (in my multimedia-entertainment-system).
Check the package you want is available for off-line installation.
ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep "package-name.deb"
then you may (try to) use dpkg to force install with no-deps, but with firmware you may have to reboot to load it and see if it works.
checkout the --help for dpkg...
root@GamesBox:/root dpkg --help | grep depend
--predep-package Print pre-dependencies to unpack.
--ignore-depends=<package>[,...]
Ignore dependencies involving <package>.
root@GamesBox:/root dpkg --help | grep force
--force-help Show help on forcing.
--[no-]triggers Skip or force consequential trigger processing.
--force-<thing>[,...] Override problems (see --force-help).
--no-force-<thing>[,...] Stop when problems encountered.
Must read...
dpkg --force-help
root@GamesBox:/root dpkg --force-help
dpkg forcing options - control behaviour when problems found:
warn but continue: --force-<thing>,<thing>,...
stop with error: --refuse-<thing>,<thing>,... | --no-force-<thing>,...
Forcing things:
[!] all Set all force options
[*] security-mac Use MAC based security if available
[*] downgrade Replace a package with a lower version
configure-any Configure any package which may help this one
hold Install or remove incidental packages even when on hold
not-root Try to (de)install things even when not root
bad-path PATH is missing important programs, problems likely
bad-verify Install a package even if it fails authenticity check
bad-version Process even packages with wrong versions
statoverride-add Overwrite an existing stat override when adding it
statoverride-remove Ignore a missing stat override when removing it
overwrite Overwrite a file from one package with another
overwrite-diverted Overwrite a diverted file with an undiverted version
[!] overwrite-dir Overwrite one package's directory with another's file
[!] unsafe-io Do not perform safe I/O operations when unpacking
[!] script-chrootless Do not chroot into maintainer script environment
[!] confnew Always use the new config files, don't prompt
[!] confold Always use the old config files, don't prompt
[!] confdef Use the default option for new config files if one
is available, don't prompt. If no default can be found,
you will be prompted unless one of the confold or
confnew options is also given
[!] confmiss Always install missing config files
[!] confask Offer to replace config files with no new versions
[!] architecture Process even packages with wrong or no architecture
[!] breaks Install even if it would break another package
[!] conflicts Allow installation of conflicting packages
[!] depends Turn all dependency problems into warnings
[!] depends-version Turn dependency version problems into warnings
[!] remove-reinstreq Remove packages which require installation
[!] remove-protected Remove a protected package
[!] remove-essential Remove an essential package
WARNING - use of options marked [!] can seriously damage your installation.
Forcing options marked [*] are enabled by default.
Currently enabled options:
security-mac,downgrade
root@GamesBox:/root
I hope this helps.
Hi, thanks for taking the time to report on those issues.
I enjoy the read. rc = release candidate, and experimental is kinda the same but on a distro level.
I used to surf the caldron of magaiea and cooker of mandriva before that...
I found it quite exciting at times.
All the best.
Hi, thank you for the tidings, all the best to you and yours.
I don't know the answer. I use open-rc since I started using Devuan.
I find it easy to use, and services and daemons may be started and stopped, restarted with sysvinit service calls.
(so I can still use the same commands, but it's a bit simpler (for me).
I started using open-rc when I switched over from pclinux.
There's another new one peeps are talking about, but I have not tried it,
runit (i dont know it's real name).
by the way, you could try one and if you don't like it install an other one.
see how you go.
Hi, yes to all those questions.
The installer will go through some stages. you get the choice of desktop (kde, etc... I only use kde plasma)
The choice of init is near the end, I like open-rc as well.
The live usb version is not kde. (iirc)
we have beautiful theme colours as well.
I love using Devuan, I think you will too. :-)
happy hollidays!
I would check to see when it is better loaded and started.
with open-rc ...
rc-update gives a list of services and when it is launched.
I don't know about the other service starters like sysvinit...
maybe if you change it from sysinit to default it may start later, allowing the boot process to continue.
My only concern is that it may have dependants that start after it.
I don't think it matters, you'll just be a little late to the web on boot.
I start the web connection after The GUI starts and My phone is tethered to the pc.
so, I run them all late.
It might impact network-shared folders...