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#2 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Apt-get show one package per line? » 2019-12-18 10:05:18

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
empty@E485:~ $ sudo apt upgrade -V
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
   libruby2.5 (2.5.5-3 => 2.5.5-3+deb10u1)
   ruby2.5 (2.5.5-3 => 2.5.5-3+deb10u1)
   ruby2.5-dev (2.5.5-3 => 2.5.5-3+deb10u1)
   ruby2.5-doc (2.5.5-3 => 2.5.5-3+deb10u1)
4 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 6,402 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,024 B disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Show off! tongue


#3 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Apt-get show one package per line? » 2019-12-17 07:35:10

For this to work, you need to install the package apt-show-versions

apt install apt-show-versions

The following command will show each package that can be upgraded on a single line...along with version numbers.

apt-show-versions -u

However, it still may be confusing. big_smile  tongue

So, you might try this. It will list each package that can be upgraded on a single line, but no version numbers...

apt-show-versions -u | cut -d: -f1

...or do as golinux said, and upgrade through synaptic...which shows the available upgrades for each package on a single line. smile

#4 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Question about XDG menus » 2019-12-11 22:00:36

There's also xdgmenumaker. I haven't tried it on icewm since I don't use it, but I have used it on fluxbox and jwm, and it works great on them. It says that it works with icewm too.

#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2019-12-10 11:32:17

MiyoLinux wrote:

nsnake for the win! big_smile

...or if you really want a challenge, install nyancat! tongue

#7 Re: Installation » Display Manager question » 2019-11-27 03:30:18

Altoid wrote:


In the process of thinning down my live *.iso project, I had a look at the Release_notes.txt file from

Slim works with Openbox in ASCII. Slim and Lightdm are the only two DMs I tried with I'm not sure about others personally.

In beowulf, I've tried slim, lxdm, Lightdm, and sddm with Openbox. Lightdm was the only one that gave me issues back then; all of the others worked out of the box. Note: I used --no-install-recommends on lxdm, lightdm, and sddm. I haven't tried lightdm on beowulf again, I don't know if it might be working now.

#8 Re: DIY » KISS: a new systemd-free distribution that aims to "keep it simple" » 2019-11-24 17:25:49

There are folks who like source-based distros, and they enjoy compiling their I believe source-based distros have and serve a purpose.

I've been using Venom Linux for about 3 weeks now. It's a rolling source-based distro based on LFS. It also has its own package manager that will download and install the dependencies for each package in the repos. It's probably one of the easiest to use source-based distros that I personally know of. It has performed flawlessly for me so far, but I don't know if I will be able to continue using it...and I hate that. My computer only has 2 CPUs, 4 GBs of RAM, I have a slow internet connection, and I can only devote around 5 hours a day on that computer. Most packages compile and install pretty quickly despite that, but periodically one comes along that takes hours to compile on my system due to all that I mentioned above. I've been waiting to upgrade those packages every Saturday, because I have more time then.

Still, it's a fantastic system and fun to use.

#9 Re: Other Issues » ASCII i386 repositories [] » 2019-11-12 11:04:32

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

ah right. I'm still in the ipv4 universe. lucky me smile


"onefang", who does ipv6 in his sleep, suggests that there probably are some networking issues at the client end, and that an investigation with traceroute, or traceroute6 I suppose, might tell something.


LOLOLOL!!! tongue

Thanks Ralph; I'll check into it.

#10 Re: Other Issues » ASCII i386 repositories [] » 2019-11-12 07:15:15

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

Just you smile what's the error?

LOL! smile

Ralph, I'm not sure how much this will help. I went ahead and switched back to to try and give you some information. My system has already been updated with


First try at updating...

dan@miyolinux:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] password for dan: 
0% [Connecting to (2001:638:a000:1021:21::1)]

After leaving it open and waiting 5 minutes...

dan@miyolinux:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] password for dan:
0% [Connecting to (2001:878:346::116)]

After leaving it open and waiting 10 minutes...

dan@miyolinux:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] password for dan: 
0% [Connecting to (2a01:4f8:140:1102:2b76:955d:b48f:bdf3)]

After leaving it open and waiting 16 finally connected! (I didn't have that much patience before!) tongue

dan@miyolinux:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] password for dan: 
Get:1 ascii InRelease [25.6 kB]             
Get:2 ascii-security InRelease [24.9 kB]
Get:3 ascii-updates InRelease [25.6 kB]
Get:4 ascii-backports InRelease [25.6 kB]
Get:5 ascii/main i386 Packages [7,208 kB]
Get:6 ascii/non-free i386 Packages [69.8 kB]      
Get:7 ascii/contrib i386 Packages [48.1 kB]       
Get:8 ascii-security/main i386 Packages [466 kB]  
Get:9 ascii-security/non-free i386 Packages [1,612 B]
Get:10 ascii-security/contrib i386 Packages [1,780 B]
Get:11 ascii-updates/main i386 Packages [29.3 kB] 
Get:12 ascii-backports/main i386 Packages [606 kB]
Get:13 ascii-backports/non-free i386 Packages [26.0 kB]
Get:14 ascii-backports/contrib i386 Packages [10.5 kB]
Fetched 8,569 kB in 16min 17s (8,769 B/s)                                     
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.

However, is almost immediate. I do think there was about a 10 second pause before it performed the update.

#11 Other Issues » ASCII i386 repositories [] » 2019-11-12 05:50:09

Replies: 6

The last two days, I haven't been able to use the i386 ASCII repositories. Each time I would try an apt update, it would try to connect and just hang.

Today, after trying again without success, I thought I'd change the sources.list to, and it worked.

Is there a problem with on i386...or is it just me? tongue

#12 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2019-11-09 15:15:56

All of this Fluxboxism has made me want to get in on the fun and share mine...


Mwu Ha Haaaa!  tongue  LOLOLOL!!!

>  Devuan Beowulf
>  Neofetch
>  fbmenugen providing the dynamic menu for Fluxbox (with or without icons) wink


#13 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2019-10-25 10:14:45

stanz wrote:

And ~ your including ALL that music yikes !!
Thanks..going to download now!!  tongue


Sorry to say this, but those Miyo-Rolling-Music .isos are only available by invitation only. Users must agree to play Nightwish: Ghost Love Score (Official Live) continuously during all waking hours, and they must agree to play it loud enough until their neighbors complain, and they must continue playing it despite the complaints until their neighbors relent and surrender to the Nightwishiness.  tongue

#14 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2019-10-23 06:31:19

Fresh install of Miyo-Rolling (Ceres). Updated and upgraded almost 700 packages with no problems other than having to hold one package (qttranslations or something like that). tongue

Replaced obmenu-generator with a manually generated menu that uses openbox-menu to provide the dynamic applications menu.

Screenshot is Openbox with...

cmus music player running in Tilda (I have Tilda set to open cmus automatically)
C.A.V.A. music virtualizer running in xterm


#16 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-10-07 19:45:12

Nightwish: Ghost Love Score

10 minutes of epic Symphonic Metal. 15 years old and timeless...

I think if you play this on a Windows system, it will probably transform into Linux by the end. big_smile

#18 Re: Other Issues » 32bit packages on a 64bit system » 2019-09-22 12:35:52

If you want 32 bit packages on a 64 bit system, run these commands as su or sudo...

dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt update
apt upgrade

I haven't used wine in some time, but here's what worked the best for me when I did...

#19 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2019-09-21 09:28:56

Okay! Connection issues are better today but still going in and out. tongue  At least I was able to get the Update Notifier(s) uploaded!

Actually, the connection issues proved beneficial and gave me the time and opportunity to make some executive decisions...which I hope are explained well enough in the quote from the readme file below. wink  Instead of offering only one version, I'm offering three versions.

Update Notifier downloads are available here... … -Notifier/




In keeping with the MiyoLinux philosophy of allowing the user to decide what goes on their system, I am providing 3 versions of the Update Notifier so that the user can choose the one that they prefer. smile  The available versions are...


The differences are explained at the bottom of this file.


After installation, log out (or reboot) for the Update Notifier to begin working.


Some window manager users may need to manually add the following line to their autostart file...



On minimal systems, if desktop notifications are not appearing, you may choose to install one of the following...

notification-daemon (see note)

NOTE: if you install notification-daemon, you may need to add the following line to your autostart...



After installation, you can view the README file in /usr/share/doc/miyolinux-update-notifier/ for more information.




Version 2.1 - When you click the icon in the system tray, it will open a window asking if you want to update your system now. There are three buttons to choose from...

"Show Updates" will show the available updates in a notification window.

"Yes" will close the window and open an Authentication window. After entering your password, the Synaptic Package Manager will open (See Synaptic's usage in Version 2.1.1).

"No" will close the window.

Version 2.1.1 - When you click the icon in the system tray, it will open an Authentication window. After entering your password, the Synaptic Package Manager will open and show the available updates. Click "Mark" to automatically perform the upgrade. Click "Cancel" to not install the updates and close Synaptic.

Version 2.1.2 - When you click the icon in the system tray, it will open an Authentication window. After entering your password, a modified xterm will open. It will show the available updates in the terminal, and the user can then choose whether to install the updates or not. Choosing Y (or just hit Enter on your keyboard) will automatically perform the upgrades, and xterm will automatically close when the upgrades are complete. Choosing n will not install the updates and close xterm.

NOTE: Version 2.1.2 is considered a testing version. While it has performed flawlessly for me on multiple computers (using both ASCII and Beowulf), there may be some systems in which xterm may not work correctly. If it doesn't work, remove this version, and try one of the other two which uses Synaptic. smile


The software is provided "as is", without warranty of any kind, express or implied, including but not limited to the warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose and noninfringement. In no event shall the authors or copyright holders be liable for any claim, damages or other liability, whether in an action of contract, tort or otherwise, arising from, out of or in connection with the software or the use or other dealings in the software.

#20 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2019-09-20 09:11:22

Hi everyone. I'm sorry...I was going to upload the update notifier today, but my internet has been having a nervous-jerkdown. It won't stay connected for over a minute or two.  neutral

I'll try again tomorrow.

#21 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2019-09-19 04:51:08


LOL! tongue

That last picture with the 4 buttons? That's no longer an option. wink

Actually, I'm waiting to hear back from someone about something. So...I'm still working on it. I probably won't get it uploaded tonight like I said that I would.

#22 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2019-09-19 04:26:48

golinux wrote:

If I were to use it  . . . the lighter the better.  Nags even for good things should be minimal.  I demand it in my world.


That's one of the nice things about's not running constantly in the background. It only runs when told to by the script. I haven't checked it with top or htop, but I have noticed that when it does run, the RAM usage showing in my conky only goes up about 10 MBs for a few seconds (while it checks for updates) then the RAM drops right back down. wink

#23 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2019-09-18 22:09:15

Ron wrote:

So is the updater now ready for prime time?

I'll upload it later tonight and post here when  it can be downloaded. smile

Thanks Ron.

#24 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2019-09-18 21:38:27

There you go being all reasonable'n stuff...  big_smile

Thanks fsr! I'll stick with just Synaptic.

One last question (anyone's input is welcome)...for the "Would you like to update your system now?" window...

Would the words plus icons...or...just the words alone be preferable on the buttons?


#25 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2019-09-18 08:16:23

MiyoLinux wrote:

or go with both...I was thinking of possibly adding an extra button to the window that allows the user to view the updates available and choose to install them or not. In other words, give the user the choice to upgrade through Synaptic or the terminal. So that would be four buttons instead of three...

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