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#1 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Software update notifications in XFCE » 2019-06-08 10:51:24

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote:

Okay, I've worked on the package, and this is the only warning that I'm getting...

W: miyo-update-notifier: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/show-updates

So, my question is...

Is this detrimental to whether the package can be trusted by people who may want to use it?

I don't think so, no. Man pages are nice but hardly essential for a script which has no options.

For scripts that do have options you can use the help2man package to generate a simple man page without having to actually write one yourself.

I would test your package but I use unattended-upgrades and I don't run the notification daemon, sorry.

It looks like it should work though, FWIW.

EDIT: if you wanted to add a man page then include it at (for example) debian/show-updates.1 and then add a file at debian/miyo-update-notifier.manpages with a line listing the location of the man page:


The page will then be placed correctly by dpkg-buildpackage.

That command should be listed under section 1 of the man pages, man man gives an overview of these in the DESCRIPTIONS section:

man man wrote:

       The  table below shows the section numbers of the manual followed by the types of pages they

       1   Executable programs or shell commands
       2   System calls (functions provided by the kernel)
       3   Library calls (functions within program libraries)
       4   Special files (usually found in /dev)
       5   File formats and conventions eg /etc/passwd
       6   Games
       7   Miscellaneous (including macro packages and conventions), e.g. man(7), groff(7)
       8   System administration commands (usually only for root)
       9   Kernel routines [Non standard]

Thank you HoaS!

I want to be like you when I grow up! smile

It works; I tested it before I uploaded it. It works perfectly. I think that I'll let it stand "as-is" for now. Thank you so much for your help...I learned a few things from what you posted. smile


#2 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Software update notifications in XFCE » 2019-06-08 10:04:30

Dutch_Master wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote: where did I put that chmod?

big_smile tongue

I think you'd need to look for it in Lost + Found wink big_smile

(sorry, couldn't resist!)

LOLOL!!! big_smile  Good one!

Okay, I've worked on the package, and this is the only warning that I'm getting...

W: miyo-update-notifier: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/show-updates

So, my question is...

Is this detrimental to whether the package can be trusted by people who may want to use it? Good grief...going in and fixing the issues caused other issues that caused me to have to fix other issues in order to fix the original issues...  tongue

I've looked at the man folder on my system to try and get some clue, but there are so many sub-folders, I'm not sure where to begin to put a man-page for the notifier!


tongue  big_smile

If anyone is willing to test it again, it is version 1.1, and it can be downloaded from... … deb_files/

#3 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Software update notifications in XFCE » 2019-06-07 21:21:41


Thank you so much HoaS! where did I put that chmod?

big_smile tongue

#4 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Software update notifications in XFCE » 2019-06-05 06:32:01

Hello everyone; I hope you're doing well! smile

I've created  a .deb package for the update notifier that has been discussed here...

It's a simple notifier that checks for updates every 4 hours. When updates are available, a desktop notification will appear as well as a system tray notification. If you click on the icon in the system tray, a notification window will open that presents the updates that are available (thanks fsr!). Please be aware that you will still have to update manually through your terminal or's just a notifier. smile  I chose this route, because I wanted the user to be able to decide if they wanted to install the updates "now" or "later".

Also, please be aware that if you're using an obscure window manager (such as i3), you will need to add the to your autostart file. The will be found in /usr/share/update-notifier/

I would appreciate anyone who is willing to test it for me. smile  After installing it, you will need to at least log out and log in for it to start working.

It can be downloaded from... … deb_files/

#5 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Announcement Regarding MiyoLinux » 2019-05-24 23:16:04

Panopticon wrote:

I tried your latest i3 beowulf iso last week Miyo, although i wont keep using it i was just interested to see how it performed and i gotta say it was pretty flawless experience on my machine, everything just worked and i had it on a partition for a week. Although im not a fan of i3, i was able to get a working openbox session going no problems. Anyhow well done on that one. I did have one issue however when updating initramfs and ran into this bug which i didnt quite understand, the system was not an encrypted one so maybe the error is just having the hook in there when updating initramfs for non encrypted setups? … bug=901830

Hi Panopticon! Thank you for the kind words, and thanks for trying the i3 version even though you're not an i3 fan. smile 

I was aware of the crypt issue when I built the .isos. After installation, I just removed the package after receiving the warning since I don't use encryption anyway. smile

Thanks again!

#6 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Announcement Regarding MiyoLinux » 2019-05-23 21:27:20

darry1966 wrote:

Miyo outside of the devuan community is starting to get quite a following and what I have read has only been positive - thanks Miyo for your work.

Thank you darry1966!

#7 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Announcement Regarding MiyoLinux » 2019-05-23 07:18:23

01101001b wrote:
w3 wrote:

If it wasn't for Miyo maybe I wouldn't be using Devuan. [...] Here in my little one I have converted several users to Linux, thanks to Miyo.

Exactly my situation and feelings. I'm here at Dev1 thanks to Miyo and during this time I've been helping to a couple of people to learn and adopt Linux using Miyo.

I'd spent weeks trying to get Compiz to work in my system to no avail (not for fun. I needed it for a friend with visual impairments). I've tried nearly a dozen of distros looking for to attain the same goal. No luck.

On the other hand, systemd is not my cup of tea and my experience with Devuan hadn't proved quite promising back then (rather unstable, no lxde).

Clueless, I had a last minute idea: to search for distros based upon Devuan. I flew to Devuan site and searched for an alternative. Among them, Miyo. I remembered I had tried it once, but in a virtual machine with no success, so I forgot it then.

Nevertheless, I went to sourceforge determined to give it a second chance and then I saw it: Miyo-Compiz. I tried it in VirtualBox. First surprise: It booted beautifully. Second surprise: Compiz worked! Even in VB! Couldn't believe it: Two birds with one stone!

MiyoLinux, whether you decide to continue or to drop your distro, you'll have my support. But truth be told: It's a marvelous work. Thank you so much.

Hi 01101001b!

First, thank you so much for the report and encouragement...I can't express how much it means. smile

If I may, let me take a moment to explain something about Virtual Box and MiyoLInux...

Prior to the latest releases, I did try to let it be known that VB Guest Additions weren't installed in MiyoLinux. That's why your previous attempt at using Miyo didn't work in VB. I do apologize, but I chose that route to keep the size of the .iso down. While I realized that leaving them out could cause issues, one of my goals with MiyoLinux was for it to be tested in a live environment on real that potential users could see if it worked on their actual hardware. Thank you for not holding that against me. smile

HOWEVER, with the latest releases, the VB Guest Additions are included in the kernel itself...that's why it worked for you this time. wink  So, that success is actually due to the kernel devs.

Secondly, MiyoLinux wouldn't be possible without the developers of Devuan, fsmithred of Refracta, and at this point...Miyo-Compiz would never have happened without the influence of Robert Radac. He was instrumental in challenging me to build it. To be honest, I had never used Compiz before this build. WIthout Robert, it would have never happened. He helped me understand the basics of Compiz. So he is as much of a part of Miyo-Compiz as anyone.


Let me say this...and I mean this as humbly as know that something that I've done (has helped someone) makes all of the time and effort worth it. To know that it has helped someone with vision impairments both humbles me and makes me truly happy. I don't have the best vision in the world myself, so I can somewhat relate. Thank you so much for that report! smile

In closing, yes...MiyoLinux is continuing. I have put out many different versions of MiyoLinux over the last few years. My goal is to see which two (or three) versions of MiyoLinux receive the most downloads and concentrate on continuing them. That doesn't mean that I won't produce another version periodically, but my main focus will be on the versions which are most popular...and I don't like using that word...popular tongue .

Thank you so very much!


#9 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2019-05-13 02:57:56

That looks great T-wax...thanks for sharing!

To make an .iso...

1. Open the file manager as root, and go to /usr/share/applications

Find the Refracta Installer, right click on it, and choose to open it with your text editor.
Find the line NoDisplay=true
Place a # in front of that line, then Save and Close the file.
That should make the Installer appear in your Menu.

2. Optional, but you may want to run Bleachbit and Bleachbit (as root) to shave some size off of the .iso.

If you do run them, reboot your computer after doing so.

3. Open the Terminal, and enter...

sudo refractasnapshot

(use su if you prefer)

a) You'll be greeted with some information. Use your down arrow key to scroll further down if needed.

b) Press the Q key on your keyboard to move to the next step. I can't remember if you have to hit Enter on your keyboard after pressing the Q key.

c) When prompted, you'll want to choose option 1, so type in the number 1 and hit Enter on your keyboard.

d) When prompted, you can change the name that will appear on the Live System's grub screen. Change it if you want. Hit Enter on your keyboard.

It will then begin the process of making the .iso. Be patient. Depending on how much is on your system, it could take a while. Leave the terminal open the entire time. You'll be notified when the .iso is complete with a message that says "All finished!"

You can then find the .iso in your Home folder in the snapshot folder. You'll need to go to the Filesystem option in the file manager, click on the Home folder, and you'll see the snapshot folder there.

Thanks again, and good luck! smile

#10 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Miyo-i3 Releases » 2019-05-11 18:05:33

catprints wrote:

Wow. You are not lazy miyo. A lot went into your i3/beowulf work. I have been very happy with i3/pcmanfm/ascii and then beowulf upgrade for some time now. I figured I could get some new info from your efforts and I have already. Many Thanks.

Thank you catprints. smile

Yes, well...not being one to brag, but's true. I am the Distro-Ninja, the OS-Extraordinaire, the King-of-Desktop-Bling, the Master-of-Linux-Casters.


Sorry...I couldn't resist. big_smile

I do hope it was helpful, and thank you for the kind words. Take care!

#11 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Miyo-i3 Releases » 2019-05-10 07:55:28

Hi everyone!

Sorry...I'm battling a migraine, so I'll keep this short and sweet. Just wanted to let anyone interested know that there are new Miyo-i3 versions available...based on beowulf. … 3/beowulf/

#12 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-05-10 07:52:52

Ron wrote:

MiyoLinux wrote:
Fun music! smile

Conway Twitty: It's Only Make Believe

Good song. I like Glen Campbell's version best:

Speaking of Glen Campbell...his guitar playing was amazing. People like to talk about shredding a guitar. He could shred it, put it back together, and then shred it again. smile

#13 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-05-09 22:13:02

Fun music! smile

Conway Twitty: It's Only Make Believe

#14 Re: Other Issues » doesn't get updates for Jessie, auto.mirror.devuan does » 2019-05-09 04:58:00

golinux wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote:

I may be wrong, but I don't remember being advised to change jessie repositories over to I thought they were supposed to stay as Seems like was introduced with ASCII.

I just looked at the Devuan website, and it's still showing jessie as using is still the default repository because there has never been a point release for jessie and that is the repository used on the isos.

This note is also on the website (in several places):

IMPORTANT NOTE: auto.mirror is now deprecated and will be decommissioned. Please make sure you have the latest devuan-keyring package with apt-get install devuan-keyring and then point your /etc/apt/sources.list to


big_smile tongue

#15 Re: Other Issues » doesn't get updates for Jessie, auto.mirror.devuan does » 2019-05-09 02:29:58

I may be wrong, but I don't remember being advised to change jessie repositories over to I thought they were supposed to stay as Seems like was introduced with ASCII.

I just looked at the Devuan website, and it's still showing jessie as using

#16 Re: Other Issues » doesn't get updates for Jessie, auto.mirror.devuan does » 2019-05-07 22:17:10

I'm not sure how this correlates with and affects Devuan, but Debian made some changes to their Jessie repositories... … -in-debian

#17 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-05-05 15:03:19

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

^ Sorry Miyo, it was the first link in the startpage search for the song.

No apologies needed! I was just having a bit of fun with you. Good song! smile

#18 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-05-05 14:42:50

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Since the YouTuber (who posted the video that you linked to) discriminates against USAians, here's a link for USAers...


#20 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-05-05 09:56:30

Looking Glass: Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)

#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » What tool for software updates + notifications? » 2019-04-24 06:51:39

Ron wrote:

MiyoLinux wrote:
I also change the number of minutes that elapse between update checks, but that's voluntary on my part.

Can it be configured to only check about 1 minute after boot up? (Each boot up, that is.)

Hi Ron. To be honest, I don't know. I would imagine that it could, but I don't know how. I'm sorry.

In fact, I'm no longer using that notifier...I'm using a version of it that I modified. See this thread starting at this link...

...but that still doesn't answer your question.

#22 Re: Devuan Derivatives » MiyoLinux Portable » 2019-04-21 20:20:32

No apology needed HoaS. I appreciate your help greatly.

While the delay during the live session certainly isn't ideal, the installed system doesn't have the delay. I think that those who asked for the builds understand the issue and are okay with it. smile

Thanks again!

#23 Re: Devuan Derivatives » MiyoLinux Portable » 2019-04-20 20:05:55

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Which method are you using to build the images?

I'm sorry, my last response showed up before I saw your last response...if that makes sense. smile  To answer your question...

1. I start with a netinstall and only install the base system.
2. After installation of the base system, I reboot and install only the packages that I want for the system that I'm creating.
3. After creating the system, I use refractasnapshot to create the .iso.

#24 Re: Devuan Derivatives » MiyoLinux Portable » 2019-04-20 19:58:49

Let me add...

I'm very thankful for the help, and I hope my kidding around wasn't taken the wrong way.

The "Debian Testing" versions are made by request and aren't part of my normal releases. I only made them to try and help users. While the delay during the boot process isn't ideal, it isn't a deal-breaker on my end. I let that situation be known to those who have requested it. Luckily, the delay isn't a problem after installation.

Thank you HoaS...for trying to help figure this out. I most certainly appreciate your time and knowledge.

#25 Re: Installation » Package synaptic is missing in beowulf, still in ascii and ceres » 2019-04-20 19:21:25

Well...I was temporarily upgrading to sid/ceres to get synaptic in testing/beowulf. That's my analysis, and I'm stickin' to it! smile  tongue

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