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#1 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Test ISO: refracta freia xlibre turnstile pipewire » Yesterday 20:31:51

That's weird. I'm not seeing that in my turnstile iso. If I remove turnstile, it does not want to remove anything else. If I try to remove dbus, it wants to remove audacious along with another 85 packages.

Make sure you get rid of all the pipewire, wireplumber and pulseaudio packages, and then alsa should work. (libpulse0 can stay and won't interfere.) Make sure you're using the right sound card. 'aplay -l' will show you which one is card 0 and if there's more than one, such as hdmi from your cpu, it'll show which one is card 1. There are a few ways to set the system to use the right card. Ask if you need help with that.

#2 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Test ISO: refracta freia xlibre turnstile pipewire » Yesterday 15:23:08

This one does not have elogind or consolekit or turnstile. Just seatd and some elogind libraries. No display manager. I think you could remove some of those libraries if you removed the lxqt packages.
https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 4_1517.iso

The turnstile iso has turnstile for user services. It's only used for pipewire in the iso you used. Turnstile uses the script in ~/.user_session.d

Did you revert to using only alsa for audio after removing turnstile?

#3 Re: Documentation » How to actually install Devuan (on UEFI, esp. desktop-live Install) » 2026-08-26 18:52:04

I gave a link to this discussion to our webmaster and we can add the information to the guide. I also made a note in my TODO list for refractainstaller. Thanks!

#4 Re: Documentation » How to actually install Devuan (on UEFI, esp. desktop-live Install) » 2026-08-26 13:38:52

Booting a usb in uefi mode varies depending on the motherboard. I usually bring up the boot device menu to boot from usb, and some motherboards give a choice of booting it either way. The devuan-live isos when imaged to a usb stick (using dd or cat) should boot whichever way the bios is set to boot the hard disk, but that doesn't always work out. Again, that depends on how the motherboard implements uefi (i.e. how it deviates from standards.)

A simpler way to install to the removable media path is to edit /etc/refractainstaller.conf to uncomment the media_opt line.

# UEFI Removable Media Path
# Uncomment to force installation to the removable media path also.
# This option is only available on EFI.
# Default is commented out.

#media_opt="--force-extra-removable"

#5 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Update of nvidia drivers failed in Daedalus » 2026-08-24 19:39:33

Maybe it will work better like this:

apt install nvidia-driver=535.309.01-0+deb12u1 nvidia-kernel-dkms=535.309.01-0+deb12u1

#6 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xlibre-deb or xlibre-debian PART TWO » 2026-08-20 00:55:20

It's easier with freia. You don't need backports. I'm looking at my freia now and a few packages are newer than what I posted in July. I think the instructions for the sources say to use "testing". Follow NexuSfan's instructions.

Here: https://github.com/xlibre-debian/devuan/

#7 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Chose runit but getting mashup of SysV and Runit » 2026-08-19 21:53:13

runit uses the sysvinit script if there is no runit script for a service. Install the runit-services package to get some run scripts.

#8 Re: Other Issues » yt-dlp in Debian 13 / Devuan 6 affected by serious CVE (Score: High) » 2026-08-19 21:49:52

Installing yt-dlp from the repo is pointless since every version stops working after a short time due to youtube's efforts to stop yt-dlp from working. That's probably why the maintainer doesn't bother to update it.

This page has some helpful information -
https://vidkraken.com/blog/yt-dlp-403-forbidden

#9 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » rupee currency symbol (₹) » 2026-08-17 19:15:48

I think only Gnome, KDE and Mate include a keyboard layout setting for English(India) with rupee. I couldn't find it in xfce or lxqt. Other option is to customize as described above or similar.

#10 Re: Other Issues » Hardware Config advice for 4K screen laptop with NVIDIA » 2026-08-16 20:24:36

As root:

dpkg-reconfigure console-setup

But on my own system I see that the larger font sizes don't work with the nvidia driver. If I reboot to a system that uses nouveau, I can get those larger fonts. (The ones that say "framebuffer only".)

On the screen in the setup where you can select Terminus, scroll down below VGA it says something like "Don't change the boot font." That might let you keep the initial font that you see when booting.

Another possibility is to boot with "nomodeset" in the boot command. If I do that, the font does not change during boot. But for some people, that causes booting to black screen. I think it depends on which card and/or which version of the driver you're using.

#11 Re: Freedom Hacks » Use refracta2usb with netinstall iso » 2026-08-16 01:47:28

One more...   I dd'd a desktop installer iso to the second partition. It finds the cdrom and unlike the netinstall iso it offers to set up wlan0 in addition to the non-functional eth0 on the laptop. A bonus for those without ethernet ports.

Also, the destkop installer iso does copy correctly to the first (fat32) partition if you use the ISO_1 option, because it unpacks the iso file and no single file is bigger than 4GB. But you still have to mount it manually.

#12 Re: Other Issues » Hardware Config advice for 4K screen laptop with NVIDIA » 2026-08-16 01:30:40

Install fontsnaps and either use the .desktop files for smaller or larger desktop fonts or in a terminal run adjfontsize + or adjfontsize - to go bigger or smaller. This only works in xfce.

#13 Re: Freedom Hacks » Use refracta2usb with netinstall iso » 2026-08-14 13:57:05

It should have been obvious to me that the desktop installer iso is bigger than the 4GB size limit of fat32 filesystems. There's a way around that - put the iso on a second partition that's formatted as ext. I used ext4 for my test.

For a live-iso, use ISO_2 from the refracta2usb menu. That will use the findiso option. When it copies the iso, it will not copy the whole thing and might even fail. You can delete that copy of the iso.

Copy the (good) iso to a directory on the second partition that's named the same as the directory just made on the first partition.

Boot menu entries should look something like this.

label big-iso
    menu label big-iso
    kernel /big-iso/vmlinuz
    append initrd=/big-iso/initrd.img boot=live findiso=/big-iso/my_big_live.iso
menuentry "big-iso " {
    set gfxpayload=keep
    linux /big-iso/vmlinuz boot=live findiso=/big-iso/my_big_live.iso
    initrd /big-iso/initrd.img
}

For an installer iso, you can leave out the "boot=live findiso=<whatever>"
The installer will start and will fail when it tries to find the cdrom
Drop to a shell and mount it manually.

mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb2 /mnt
mount -oloop,ro /mnt/big-installer-iso/devuan_<whatever>.iso /cdrom
exit

And let the installer find the installation media.

#14 Re: Freedom Hacks » Use refracta2usb with netinstall iso » 2026-08-13 16:31:52

In case it's not obvious to anyone reading this thread, I just want to mention that instead of a netinstall iso, you could use the server or desktop installer isos to do a complete install without a network mirror. That might make it easier for anyone with a laptop that only has wireless networking.

#15 Re: Freedom Hacks » Use refracta2usb with netinstall iso » 2026-08-11 00:41:55

Wow, that works. I didn't change anything in the existing setup, but I did dd the iso to the second partition. Same boot menu entry works and it made it past the point where it detects the installation media.

#16 Freedom Hacks » Use refracta2usb with netinstall iso » 2026-08-10 14:18:54

fsmithred
Replies: 8

refracta2usb is designed to work with live-isos to create a multiboot live-usb. It's not designed to work with the installer isos, but with a little bit of manual intervention you can bypass this limitation. I can't blame it on upstream decisions because I'm part of the upstream in this case.

Use the latest version of refracta2usb available here -
https://get.refracta.org/files/tools/re … ~4_all.deb
or here -
https://exegnulinux.net/files/refracta2usb/

1. You should start with a usb that already has one live system on it and was prepared using refracta2usb. I tried it with just the netinstall iso and it only worked for legacy bios boot. It didn't work with uefi boot and I did not investigate further.
See the fine documentation that comes with refracta2usb for basic instructions.
(Hint: click on Help inside the app or look in /usr/lib/refracta2usb/help_r2u.txt)

PREPARE THE USB STICK
Start refracta2usb, select the usb device and the select ISO_1 from the menu.
The contents of the iso file will be put into a directory on the usb. Give it a name.
Example name: freia-netinstall
Select the iso
Select the boot menu from the iso (for reference): /boot/isolinux/menu.cfg
Select the kernel: /boot/isolinux/linux
Select the initrd: /boot/isolinux/initrd.gz
Additional boot options: none here
Isolinux boot menu opens in text editor.
Remove live-boot and live-config options.  (i.e. boot=live and probably everything on the line after that.)
Add "priority=low" if you want Expert install.

Example:

label freia-netinstall
	menu label freia-netinstall
    kernel /freia-netinstall/boot/isolinux/linux 
    append initrd=/freia-netinstall/boot/isolinux/initrd.gz priority=low vga=788 --- 

Save and close the editor.

Grub boot menu opens in text editor. Do similar edits.

Example:

menuentry "freia-netinstall " {
    set gfxpayload=keep
    linux   /freia-netinstall/boot/isolinux/linux priority=low ---   
    initrd  /freia-netinstall/boot/isolinux/initrd.gz
}

Save and close the editor.
When the refracta2usb main menu comes up, you can Exit.

USE THE NETINSTALL
To use the netinstall iso, boot the usb stick and select the netinstall
from the boot menu. The installer will start and ask about locales and
keyboard, then it will fail because it can't find the cdrom.
Continue to get to the installer menu and scroll down to select
"Execute a shell"

In the shell, mount the first partition of the usb stick. And then
bind mount the netinstall directory on the stick to /cdrom.

Example Be sure to name the correct device! /dev/sdb1 is an Example:
You can run 'fdisk -l' in the shell to make sure the usb is the device you think it is.

mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
mount --bind /mnt/freia-netinstall /cdrom
exit

This brings you back to the installer which should return to the menu.
Select "Detect and mount installation media"
and proceed with the installation.

#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xorg and wall (usr/bin/wall) » 2026-08-05 12:25:06

bai4Iej2need,

I think we're using the wrong terminal. I just tried it with xterm and it works. Does not matter if I use startx for openbox or openbox-session or if I use lightdm to start a full xfce destkop. Wall is happy to talk to xterm but does not work with xfce-terminal or qterminal. I didn't try any others.

#18 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xorg and wall (usr/bin/wall) » 2026-08-03 16:43:10

Turning off lightdm and using startx doesn't help. I still get the wall message on a console where I'm logged in but not in the desktop terminal.

Not sure if this helps. From 'man wall'

NOTES
       Some sessions, such as wdm(1x), that have in the beginning of utmp(5) ut_type data a ':' character will not get
       the message from wall. This is done to avoid write errors.

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] upgrade succesful .. or not? (systemd) » 2026-08-01 01:30:10

I often see packages in the autoremove list that I want to keep. Almost always, they are just remnants of old versions that can be removed. Take note of what's there, and if it really removes what you want to keep, reinstall those packages.

#20 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installation Problem after selecting Language and Country » 2026-07-31 15:09:52

5) Here's an excalibur desktop-live iso with the backports kernel (7.1.3)
https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 8_2304.iso

sha256sum
https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … iso.sha256

3eee6699e8a6c4e5cd1209376b7943678bf973cea571732ac96c7ed3d50f18ec  excalibur_nonfree_bpo_7.1.3-20260728_2304.iso

#21 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installation Problem after selecting Language and Country » 2026-07-30 20:11:40

Your cpu is not too new for the kernels in excalibur. I couldn't find a clear answer on the graphics card.
Exactly how did you prepare the usb stick?

You could try the iso in the thread that ovi linked or try the desktop-live iso to see if that boots correctly.

#22 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Devuan5 refractasnapshot Decompression error » 2026-07-30 20:02:37

No, I don't. But I'm guessing you do. I'll also guess that changes in the kernel and initramfs compression are what bit you. Use a newer version of refractasnapshot and it should work. (again, a guess because I don't really know what you're trying to do.) There might be more information in /var/log/refractasnapshot.log.

Try these:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/poo … .3_all.deb
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/poo … .1_all.deb

#23 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installation Problem after selecting Language and Country » 2026-07-28 21:34:22

New hardware can be a problem if it's too new for the kernel. Which model cpu, motherboard and graphics card do you have? You might need to use a kernel from excalibur-backports.

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] L3afpad » 2026-07-27 17:28:52

There's mousepad, which I don't use. There's also featherpad if you don't mind pulling in a few qt libraries. I use geany most of the time. Maybe one of those will work.

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