All very amusing thanks.
I have been booting Unix since the eighties, so I see a problem with a usergroup when I run across them.
This is surely one.

Cheers kids.

Well.. just answering my questions directly would avoid all this.
Apparently you are more interested in observing the fight than just to answer the 2 questions I posted.

This shows the petty corrupt attitude of the Devuan UG management and it's followers.

No interest to even consider the blazing username capitalization discrepancy between two iso versions.

I am out of here. No reason to entertain a bunch of wannabe Sages who refuse to directly answer questions. See for example the first response to my original post and ask yourself if that is the way to treat a user. ?

Read the answers from GlenW.
Learn from him how to try and solve a problem constructively

I will use alternative non-systemD distros. I'm done with Devuan

Good day, and I sincerely hope the corruption will be sorted out.

I try a last time.
Give factual answers please and not just innuendo and vague opinions.

1) Why is there no gui-based User config in Devian Desktop.
You claim there is ... please provide program name and directory
2) Why does the Live version allow capitalized user names but the Desktop version only allows lowercase.

Thanks

ralph,

Of course I did, all you find are the command line userconfigs as i stated and listed them clearly in my previous answer to you and the cli user configs are not what I am after. Maybe read ?

That is

 # ls |grep -i user
adduser
deluser
newusers
useradd
userdel
usermod

That is unless it goes by some other incognito moniker ?
I am out of guesses. maybe it lurks in /dev/null  ?? I wont be surprised.
You make a lot of counter claims but never backed up by data.

So again,
But, to find what exactly in /usr/sbin?
And, even more importantly why is there no user config gui application in the menu system for a Desktop Install ?

And exactly where are they and what are they called. ?

Rather be specific than add more clouds.

There is NO User-manager program in the menu at all..... so I must guess right ??

Could not find it in MENU from desktop
NOT in /usr/local/bin
NOT in /usr/bin
NOT in /sbin
NOT in /bin

Path says all that is left is "games" that I did not try
bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:

or does it go by somer other program name than *user* ?

This is the desktop version not the server version install.
For a desktop distro I would expect a user-config program rather than to revert to the server, adduser deluser newusers useradd userdel usermod  secfacta.

I believe you, it is just that I can starkly remember the exact same problem back in 2005, with several distros and then never again thereafter. it is just very odd that I get exactly the same problem 15 years later.
Its no sweat. i will reinstall if i cannot remotely install the supposedly missing libraries. Usually I can taking me a few minutes.

Here I posted a Tutorial about how to do remote installs on Distros which are not active. Result is the same as doing dpkg on a running system. Saved my bacon a lot of times having to fix a terminally corrupt library on a non-running partition remotely.
In the case showcased there, libc6 has config problem which completely bricks all terminal commands. You cannot fix the system while the OS is running as terminal commands result in a segfault - nasty!  Usually everyone just reinstalls. This way you just reinstalls libc6 while the system is not running remotely from another distro and the system runs again after reboot. Dont know why nobody seems to know about this.

"https://www.nixcraft.com/t/damaged-libc … cover/2934"

i can do exactly the same on Devuan if I know which libraries are missing and what provides it. So I will have to go dig into that. In this case the remote install on a passive OS is the only way to fix it as it wont boot into administrator mode either.

To your other comment, sure things dont just happen by themselves, that is why I ask if it is a known flaw.

DZZ,
Please read my initial post.
I clearly state exactly the command lines you profess.
No sweat, but it is clear from my post that I dont want to continue with CLI.

Just want to put the record straight so that everyone know what my objective is.

That wasnt installed, I addedrepos and installed it, but error remains the same.

In adition I noticed terminal output in vlc says avcoded decode error and in VLC just plays a blank black screen. In firefox it plays audio and shows video, but it drops frames probably due to the avcodec decode error.

Maybe this ? A bug is mentioned. Althouigh it is for windows, the bug would be the same.
https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=144998

If this is in fact the problem, then Devuan must be using oooooold package versions.

Yes, fsck exits with no error.

Here are screenshots showing the absurd behavior.
As you can see out of the box, the directories used for backgrounds are different ... why on earth is it configured this way out of the box ???
Second of all, you cannot change directory to select another directory for change of backgrounds..permission denied.

e.g. I cannot select a background from the directory used in the first monitor permission denied all is grayed out.

To make this even weirder, If I move the config screen as
I posted for Screen1 over to screen 2 by dragging it with the mouse, then the backgrounds are immediately switched to a different directory as can be seen in the image labled monitor w. So the same config window changes from the first image to the second images dragging it to the second monitor.

Furthermore you cannot change directory to get both working from the same directory

This is *utterly* absurd.

Monitor1
https://i.imgur.com/RY6spOp.png
Monitor2
"https://i.imgur.com/6tN6DnV.png"

I am sure this is rather an XFCE question in hindsight and not really anything to do with Devuan, although someone here must have run into the same trouble.

Nope, CLEAN install downloaded from Devuan

All I did extra after install is
apt update
apt upgrade

Thats all.

I am not at that terminal right now when I get there I will post all the details.
I will see if I can make a video, it is really curious to see ..