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#1 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf: how to remove xfce and install mate, without breaking system » 2020-09-29 05:12:38

Find and install the mate-desktop meta-package in Synaptic. Mate and XFCE can happily co-exist, there's no conflict so no real reason to remove XFCE other then saving space on your virtual drive. If you still want to remove XFCE, there's an xfce-desktop package as well, see if that's installed then purge it and all of its dependencies. Synaptic is a smart tool (or rather, the underlying .deb packages) so it'll complain when you want to remove a package Mate relies on.

#2 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Average Uptime of Your Devuan Systems? » 2020-09-13 17:56:42

As correctly indicated, it differs between desktops and servers. My desktop gets shut down every night, but my file server runs 24/7. It had, at one time, an uptime of over 2 years (yes, really!) as I ran Debian oldstable at the time, 'cause that didn't have systemd in it roll  More recently, it had well over 100 days worth before rebooting it as it had mysteriously lost connectivity for a few days. Then last night I accidentally shut it down and rebooted only this morning. Normality has been restored. I think... hmm

#3 Desktop and Multimedia » GTK error after recent update » 2020-08-10 09:46:54

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Recently I updated my Ascii system and it included some nVidia drivers as well. Most applications work as before, but this one doesn't:

$ gweled 
Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "atk-bridge"

(gweled:8431): GLib-WARNING **: GError set over the top of a previous GError or uninitialized memory.
This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is NULL before it's set.
The overwriting error message was: Operation not supported
Segmentation fault

I ran

dpkg --configure -a

but that didn't throw up any mis- or unconfigured packages.

Any ideas?

#5 Other Issues » Flushing cached data in RAM » 2020-07-24 13:24:20

Replies: 2

My file-server, running Ascii, has 32GB RAM and after syncing my home folder to the RAID, cached data remains visible in the RAM in the Webmin overview page. How do I get to flush this data from RAM? I know I can reboot, but there should be an alternative way. In Linux, there always is wink (well, almost always tongue )


#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » HPE ProLiant DL560 Gen10 » 2020-07-03 18:46:24

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Dutch_Master wrote:

Devuan even has the rpm package, allowing you to use rpm packages on apt systems.

Probably better to use alien to convert the .rpm package to a .deb and install that instead.

Fair point. Fortunately I don't need it wink

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » HPE ProLiant DL560 Gen10 » 2020-07-03 15:43:25

Everything CentOS can, Devuan can do too. Devuan even has the rpm package, allowing you to use rpm packages on apt systems.

If in doubt, see if you can swap out the CentOS system disk with an empty one and install Devuan on that.

#9 Re: Other Issues » [Solved] Two new concerns » 2020-06-01 05:12:53

I had a similar issue on Beowulf when I tried it some time ago: (post 6!). It appears privilege-escalation has changed since Ascii, post 8 (same thread) has the answer, although I ended up re-installing Ascii instead.

#10 Re: Devuan » The point of Devuan? » 2020-05-17 06:56:28

Yes, the point of Devuan was and remains to provide people a systemd-free Debian system. And IMO it's best for the project to stay as close as possible to that mantra. For me, all I care about is having a comprehensive, easy-to-install systemd-free apt-based Linux system for everyday use that's not just easy to install but also use, maintain and update. And as I have ab-so-lute-ly zero interest in playing personal politics I tend to stay away from the 'social' aspect of this by'n large friendly community, although as and where I can I'm more then happy to help out.

#11 Re: News & Announcements » Bound to happen ... » 2020-05-10 07:42:35

bimon wrote:
Dutch_Master wrote:

I'm still awaiting a kernel-patch from Mr Torvalds that obsoletes systemd altogether smile

I am afraid he can obsolete non systemD distros in new kernels, at least while he gets his regular wage check from corporations.

Torvalds is NOT paid by corporations, he's not on their payrolls. He's employed by a foundation and although they get donations from various corporations, that doesn't mean it'll do their bidding. For starters, Linus is too independently minded. Remember the finger he gave to nVidia? Then there's the "threat" (for want of a better word) of forking the kernel to keep such a patch out and thus non-systemd distro's alive. And IIRC Linus brought the entire kernel code (or at least his contributions, which are the core of the matter) under the GPLv3, which has a lot more restrictions on claiming IP for it by 3rd parties.

No, I'm not worried about Torvalds getting his arm up corporate bums. He's a geek and coder, not a career-technologist smile

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Old Brother Scanners broken in Beowulf (problem descr. and workaround) » 2020-04-18 13:30:18

Yes, but probably not for networked devices. Although these should be approachable via said network instead. If all else fails, most (if not all) networked Brother MFC's have an SD-card slot and/or a USB port so one could load the file to a pen drive or flash-card and print from that. Cumbersome, but do-able.

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Old Brother Scanners broken in Beowulf (problem descr. and workaround) » 2020-04-18 09:26:28

Good post! As a Brother user I may well switch distro's or keep Ascii for the time being. I'd expect Brother themselves would be aware of the situation and expect a brscan4 (or even 5!) version out in the not too distant future to reflect the new sane libs.

#14 Re: Installation » Beowulf Beta Issues » 2020-04-09 14:48:14

Thx for that. this is what I got after upgrading to beowulf:

cat /etc/profile
# /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for the Bourne shell (sh(1))
# and Bourne compatible shells (bash(1), ksh(1), ash(1), ...).

if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then
export PATH

if [ "${PS1-}" ]; then
  if [ "${BASH-}" ] && [ "$BASH" != "/bin/sh" ]; then
    # The file bash.bashrc already sets the default PS1.
    # PS1='\h:\w\$ '
    if [ -f /etc/bash.bashrc ]; then
      . /etc/bash.bashrc
    if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then
      PS1='# '
      PS1='$ '

if [ -d /etc/profile.d ]; then
  for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
    if [ -r $i ]; then
      . $i
  unset i

Probably me, but I can't see a difference?

I'll try the set-path option to see if that works (I assume it will, but one never knows: I've been known to break stock installs tongue wink )

#15 Re: Installation » Beowulf Beta Issues » 2020-04-09 04:07:04

Some quick notes from me:

- bare-metal installation, re-used Samsung EVO750 SSD
- upgrade via ASCII (basic ascii system install, change sources to beowulf, dist-upgrade)
- sudo not installed (I don't use it, under ascii it's pulled in anyway, IIRC as dependency somewhere)
- installing package with dpkg fails with complaint about missing PATH for root (as root!)
- installing same package with apt works
- added Webmin repo in sources.list (+ apt-key), installed Webmin successfully
- cannot halt system via cli (as root!), via Webmin interface works (system shuts down)

This is a temporary install for a short-term project, shutting down in the next week or so.


#16 Re: News & Announcements » Bound to happen ... » 2020-04-07 10:58:49

I'm still awaiting a kernel-patch from Mr Torvalds that obsoletes systemd altogether smile

#17 Re: Off-topic » Folding@home - You can help find a cure to COVID-19! » 2020-03-31 17:59:39

GNUser wrote:

Asking people to pitch in computing power but they refuse to show the source code? That's lopsided and creepy.

I'll be happy to contribute and spread the word when they make the source code available.

Yeah, like now's the perfect time to be totally an@l about that :-\

Besides, here's the perfect reason why they won't release the source:

It is important to note that we do release the scientific modifications back to the open source community, but do not release information which would enable donors to cheat on points, which some donors have done ruining the experience for many others.

#18 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-25 18:19:40

Just for my understanding: if one already has Ascii installed, Beowulf is now ready/stable enough to be upgraded to?


#19 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-20 16:51:55

sgage wrote:

However, I notice there is no volume indicator on the top panel as usual, nor is there one available for adding.

This is correct for Mate, and it hasn't been there for a fair while. (2017-ish? IIRC!) It's been lacking from upstream, so it's not a Devuan issue AFAIK.

#20 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-19 14:55:46

puma wrote:

When do you think the next stable will bereleased?
Please respons to me.

This is the second time you ask in as many days and it has been answered yesterday in the exact post following yours. READ IT!

Direct link: click!

#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Moving installation to SSD drive » 2020-03-14 22:24:02

Bookmark this page:

Tools to investigate (use the link, for instance) are (in no particular order):
which, strace, ps, whereis, grep/egrep/pgrep, lsof, locate/slocate and htop

#22 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Moving installation to SSD drive » 2020-03-14 16:06:01

No, not really. Unless your system is seriously memory-starved and swap comes into play often, in which case it's advisable to move it to a spinning disk instead as Flash drives do not cope too well with high read/write load cycles: it shortens their lifespan considerably. But as you stated swap is rarely used, don't bother now. My system also has an SSD for the system, including swap, but like yours it's seldom used so I don't bother about it. One of my SSD's (1st gen. consumer grade stuff, from Crucial, 60GB) lasted well over 60,000hrs before replacing it not so long ago.

#23 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Moving installation to SSD drive » 2020-03-14 13:54:25

Partition/disk management in Linux takes place in the /etc/fstab file. So, in order for the old partitions to be ignored, you'd have to comment them out (put a # in front of the line) Swap is also managed in that file, following the same syntax as a normal partition:

UUID=7af41fff-29cd-4f83-a099-aec1cb6eda8a none            swap    sw              0       0

This is swap activated in my system, your UUID will differ but feel free to copy the (rest of the) line as is.

Tip: to obtain UUID's for your partitions, use the blkid command on the cli, as described in this wiki page. (which I wrote, btw tongue )

Do note that every edit to the /etc/fstab file needs to be done as root!

#24 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved ]Mainboard ASUS with AMD Ryzen 3: root device not found » 2020-03-04 18:44:12

Wilkommen ins Forum!

Boot into the Live-CD, then do a filesystem check (fsck) of all partitions. Make sure your Devuan system has the requisite tools available, various packages offer support for individual file systems (like XFS, JFS, BTRFS, etc). What's the contents of the file /etc/fstab? (use the code tags in the forum to keep things neat and tidy)

#25 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] B360M-C Motherboard Installation » 2020-02-29 01:12:00

Can't tell you how common this particular chipset is, but you'll probably find the driver on the install-DVD. That by itself is a more complete netinstall medium over the existing .iso and can be used as such (I do, at work wink ) when choosing a basic install, get the sources.list properly set up and away you go!

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