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#1 Re: Other Issues » Unable to connect to devuan laptop server on local network » Today 02:45:33

If you focus on icmp messages or host 192.168.1.4 you'll see that the icmp packets are sent out, but there are no responses back.

Are you able to run tcpdump on the server?

#2 Re: Other Issues » Unable to connect to devuan laptop server on local network » Yesterday 22:34:45

As you may know all (almost) network messaging comes in pairs with outbound packets getting inbound responses. I use tcpdump to look at that to show what happens on an interface, like:

tcpdump -n -i wlan0

to see packets in to and out from wlan0 without attempting "reverse dns" on them (i.e. see IP addresses rather than domain names).

You do that in one terminal while using an other terminal for trying things like ping. The best is if you can do the same on the target host, to see where the messages hold-up may be. Note that for ipv4 it is essential that "arp" messaging move freely; the hosts use that so as to learn the ethernet addresses of LAN devices. All networking is carried by the link-level LAN connectivity, which uses the ethernet addresses or broadcasts (i.e. address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff plus the broadcast flag bit set). 

In your case, I do suspect your router. I think that most routers have "broadcast groups" where they only forward broadcast messages to interfaces within the group of the interface where the messages come in. Which router do you have -- brand and version "number"? (with that we can probably find its instruction book on the Internet)

Routers may also have limitations on number of connected devices.

#3 Re: Other Issues » Unable to connect to devuan laptop server on local network » Yesterday 14:23:10

I misspelled; should be ifconfig virbr0, but I think the bridge is ok since it doesn't have any interfaces. So now it's getting mysterious.

Do you have anything from ebtables-save
Does ping -n 192.168.1.1 work fine?
Check the router's host list for shared ethernet address 2c:9c:58:29:10:6f

#4 Re: News & Announcements » Chrome based browsers and uBlock Origin » Yesterday 12:14:25

I have no idea what the synaptics program does.

At a guess you have setup multiarch (perhaps an amd64 machine with arm64 as foreign architecture) and librewolf have published different most recent versions of their package in those architectures. To solve that "normally" you'd add an attribute like "[arch=amd64]" for the repository line, making it be like

deb [arch=amd64] http://repo.librewolf.net librewolf main

Doing so would focus that repository line to apply for the nominated architecture only. (Use a comma separated value list to nominate more architectures)

But that's all guess work.

#5 Re: Other Issues » Unable to connect to devuan laptop server on local network » Yesterday 05:33:31

Yeah; almost all the iptables rules concerns accepting packets in circumstances, which are kind of useless rules when policy is "accept". However since they don't interfere they can be ignored. And in any case they shouldn't concern wlan0 traffic.

But that virtbr0 bridge might have networking impact. What's your output of brctl show? And ifconfig virtbr0?

I suppose the problem(s) you talk about concern the main host and network 192.168.1.0/24; not any qemu virtual machine?

#6 Re: Other Issues » Unable to connect to devuan laptop server on local network » 2025-07-03 22:28:14

Yes it sounds like the installation (not liveCD) has something wrong.

Does it have a firewall? e.g. does iptables-save report something; (or if you use nftables there would be a similar command among its programs). And use ip6tables-save for ipv6 rules. (I'm not sure about the nftables commands)

Is the interface up? ifconfig wlan0 would be the easiest, if you have net-tools installed. An you'd also check with ip link show dev wlan0 and ip address show dev wlan0. The ip command comes from the iproute2 package.

Is there a default route? ip route show ... and checking ipv6: ip -6 route show

Hmm but if understand right, the laptop does have other internet access... anyhow, please include the outputs of those commands and we'll see if there's something to see there.

#7 Re: Other Issues » Unable to connect to devuan laptop server on local network » 2025-07-03 02:13:12

Does the router isolate between wireless hosts and wired hosts?

#8 Re: Off-topic » To shell or not to shell everything ? » 2025-07-01 21:00:54

No, service management should not be a brick because it needs openness and flexibility. In my mind, my words were rather an attempt to explain why one might raise the questions you raised; my view is that a service management system needs to be open and flexible in order to be useful in a multitude of circumstances.

Are you seeking answers really, or are you seeking questions? Don't you wish to come to conclusions about those questions you ask, or do you prefer to side step and ask similar or new questions about other sub systems? Why don't you focus on individual functions. such as partitioning or file manager or keyboard mapping?

#9 Re: Off-topic » To shell or not to shell everything ? » 2025-07-01 01:10:38

I think service supervision should be repeatable and robust while flexible. Therefore it's an advantage to use shell scripts. Which is how sysvinit was designed.

Of course, a system that is open and flexible entices and empowers a large number of people to have a go at adjusting scripts and making new ones, and slowly the aggregate system will start to lose it's coherence as well as any original overarching design ideas. And with less and less coherence, newcomers more and more easily get confused and misdirected, so they more or less inadvertently continue exploiting the inherent openness and flexibility to make the aggregate system even less coherent.

To adopt and pursue an original intent would take "unproductive" effort to find such original intent purposefully documented and to digest and assimilate it. This often demands additional layers of learning that typically are well to the side of the immediate objective which most often merely is "to have something working for me right now".

#11 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » LVM -- useful or not? » 2025-06-30 08:27:36

Hopefully I can say this without pushing anyone into defensive mode: my personal opinion is that LVM a total waste of energy. I.e. actual energy wasted by extra processing, turning into heat and whatnot for no practical gain. Just because it's possible. But yes, there is that fascinating idea of theoretical flexibility, which basically noone uses.

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » LVM -- useful or not? » 2025-06-30 03:55:51

yes it adds overhead; every block access needs to go through the mapping tables.

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Installer *.iso problems - again ... » 2025-06-26 02:29:22

Are you trying to boot an arm64 installer on your Sun Ultra 24 WS ?

That netinstall iso has some isolinux software residue for i386 but in general it's intended to run a grub boot system for arm64. In particular, the linux kernel is an arm64 kernel. Whomever that put that iso together didn't conscientiously remove irrelevant but (normally) unused files, and in particular it does seem to have some dangling i386 boot loaders.

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Where to view system requirements Devuan » 2025-06-23 22:37:19

Well "Devuan" is actually like a warehouse of software rather than a particular distribution so it all depends on which particular setup you want to have. The most recent "excalibur netinstall", which provides a range of distribution choices with the most recent software, will want at least 800 Mb RAM to run and would comfortably install most of its graphical desktop environments on an 8 Gb disk. Though, today one will want at least 20 Gb disk to be somewhat "future proof".

Almost all software is compiled for several architectures, including both 32-bit and 64 architectures. In debian parlance they have names like i386, amd64, armel, armhf, arm64, risc64, ppc64el etc.

The keyword is "Choice".

#15 Re: Devuan » devuan and debian links » 2025-06-23 22:21:21

And those who like graphs could peep at
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/log/unstable-banned.svg
for a dependency picture of the banned packages for unstable.

#16 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Asking for the install cd that is already mounted when I chose RUNIT » 2025-06-20 23:29:19

I'd guess your "I chose RUNIT" means to install some software, and your /etc/apt/sources.list nominates /media/cdrom as a repository (of cdrom type), which is one of the babies that came with the installation. If you remove that, or comment it out, in /etc/apt/sources.list your system (aka "it") will no longer ask for that repository.

#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » RefractaOS - (Devuan Daedalus Based) Fresh Install SOUND OK XCEPT4FBK? » 2025-06-20 02:03:27

Yes, create the directory pathname

# mkdir -p /etc/alsa/conf.d

if it doesn't exist.

in fact, if you look into /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf which is the main configuration file for alsa, you will see that it looks for configuration files in many places. I suggested /etc/alsa/conf.d/ because that is commonly used by many packages and especially bluez-alsa-utils (which provides a virtual sound card for playback and capture via bluez bluetooth mediation).

Some people prefer using ~/.asoundrc instead, since that is written/editable by the non-root end user. However it will also only be used by that non-root end user and not shared among all users.

#18 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » RefractaOS - (Devuan Daedalus Based) Fresh Install SOUND OK XCEPT4FBK? » 2025-06-19 04:36:23

Since the analog out put is on your card 1, you should create a file
/etc/alsa/conf.d/00-defaults.conf with the following line:

defaults.pcm.!card 1

#19 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-19 00:27:17

Sometimes one can use https://pkginfo.devuan.org to learn about packages and their dependencies. It doesn't offer much in terms of reflections on underlying motivations though.

#20 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-13 10:23:41

That doesn't sound like an active mirror but I guess you looked carefully in devuan_excalibur/installer-iso/.
The mirrors are otherwise listed at https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan and if you find an inactive one you could "report" that eg as a "devuan-www" bug at https:///bugs.devuan.org.

#21 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-13 01:03:00

You might want to try the newest devuan_excalibur_6.0-20250605_amd64_netinstall.iso which does include very recent firmware that possibly could help with the keyboard issue. That ISO is further improved to support boot via a Ventoy stick boot loading, which I'm guessing will suit you.

#22 Re: DIY » Need advice, building a small server for city-library-Devuan mirror » 2025-06-12 06:52:24

Very peculiar opinions you are voicing there. Especially I would consider "GUI tool that makes configuring it for online use" being a quite oxymoronic phrase. It's kind of like saying: "but he is friendly to the kids". Of course, I voice my opinion here.

#23 Re: Documentation » how to specify an hexadecimal offset to dd ? » 2025-06-09 23:32:36

Use the shell phrase $((0x100)) to specify offset value 256; and similarly $((0x35feed63)) for offset value 905899363.

The parameters would be skip=?? for the infile and seek=?? for the outfile. The value is in block size counts.

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Error in an effort to run an X client in a remote X Display. » 2025-06-09 23:27:03

Bring up a terminal and use the command

pkill Xorg

(as the user that owns the Xorg process)

#25 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Error in an effort to run an X client in a remote X Display. » 2025-06-09 10:21:32

The -nolisten tcp gets added to the Xorg command line by the /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc start up script when invoked by startx. Aaccording to man startx the start up script may be overridden by the user (root?) who starts Xorg.

For experimentation you could edit that file, changing it to -listen tcp before restarting Xorg to see that it works. (It should)

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