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#1 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [ SOLVED ] cant run command from commandsline » 2020-06-26 22:23:07

Firstly you might test by using ctrl-alt-f1 to shift to VT-1 and log in as root. Does that result in the same experience as your su --login, i.e. blank password is fine, and then bash complains about ash?

#2 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [ SOLVED ] cant run command from commandsline » 2020-06-26 09:50:11

In your post #7, it looks like your attempts with "su" fails because "ash" is not found, which suggests that "ash" is wanted to be used by the initial file(s) that are loaded at login, but is found missing. It looks odd, and maybe you should check up on that first, i.e. specifically why do you get the output:

bash: ash: Kommando nicht gefunden

Just in parenthesis, regardless of your recent experiences, the program su works perfectly fine in beowulf, and it is directly brought in from debian buster. Though, it works differently from how it worked some time period ago, when its juggling of environment variables was different.

#3 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2020-06-24 01:08:26

vlax wrote:

I can help with spanish too smile

haroldG75 wrote:

Would like to contribute to the spanish version.

hmm I think I missed yours @haroldG75, did I? ... Let me collate the basis and email it to you both, and you coordinate who does what of it.

#5 Re: Off-topic » desktop / workspaces » 2020-06-20 07:29:02

Hmm for me it is like:

stolpe% wmctrl -l
0x01000004 -1 stolpe xfce4-panel
0x01200003 -1 stolpe Desktop
0x03000003 -1 stolpe 
0x03400010 -1 stolpe logs - - Mozilla Thunderbird
0x030010c7  0 stolpe 
0x02e00003 -1 stolpe gworldclock
0x030013d8  0 stolpe files
0x0360007f  0 stolpe desktop / workspaces / Off-topic / Dev1 Galaxy Forum - Pale Moon
0x0300341e  4 stolpe hello
0x03200003  4 stolpe Xfburn
0x03a00017  3    N/A TkDiff 4.1.4

It appears the second column is the _NET_WM_DESKTOP property of the windows; "-1" means that the window is to be shown on all workspaces, and otherwise it's the workspace where the window is shown. At that time, my monitors show workspace 0.

This is not cinnamon though; it might use some other window property, or it might keep that information elsewhere. The use of _NET_WM_DESKTOP property is in the wm-spec "standard", e.g. at … 6085202544
but there's no compelling reason for cinnamon to  adhere to that standard.

#6 Re: Off-topic » desktop / workspaces » 2020-06-19 23:48:11

Hmm wmctrl -l gives me a list of all windows across all workspaces, detailing window id, workspace number (with a - in some cases for some reason), host name(?), and window title.

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Backlight control problem » 2020-06-13 23:31:37

@toru, what does cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness say?

Presumably something less than 100, as according to your post #7, the complaint was about the value, not the writing.

If that's the case, you should try again with @Head_on_a_Stick's tee method and a number between 0 and that maximal number. Ideally half of max should result in 50% brightness.

#8 Re: Installation » Not detect NIC's from install hd-media » 2020-06-11 22:16:16

@danista: thanks. Afaiui, that boot entry says (to grub booting)

"after using the kernel and initrd of the boot-up partition, use the file system at partition 2 as (post-pivot) root file system"

That's a different thing from boot-up using the ISO kernel and initrd on partition 2.

It might possibly work if you copy the kernel and initrd from the ISO, where they actually reside in its /boot/isolinux/ directory, to replace the ones you have under /boot on partition 1. You should do that after having otherwise set up partition 1 with a full grub boot including that menuentry to identify partition 2 as (post-pivot) root file system.

I suppose this still brings a period of confusion for the kernel upon pivoting to the root file system, as it results in shadowing the partition 1 /boot tree, but that shouldn't cause an issue unless you then try to install onto partition 1 (or partition 2, of course).

#9 Re: Installation » Not detect NIC's from install hd-media » 2020-06-10 21:56:21

Would you mind explain what using a hd-media method means with respect to install a devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_i386-netinstall.iso ?

In my mind you either use devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_i386-netinstall.iso or that which you find under … nt/images/. They are two different and separate approaches to use for achieving a situation where you have Devuan installed.

I can understand if one of them, or both, have problems dealing with some hardware (even though at a glance your hardware seems far from obscure) but I'm afraid I can't immediatly understand how to conflate the two installation approaches into one.

#10 Re: Forum Feedback » Why Fie? » 2020-06-07 12:48:24

Hey, friends; no need to get defensive and personal when the OP has taken the trouble of putting their mind to articulating how their experience differed from their expectation. Be positive: the OP wants to help.

#11 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-06-06 15:30:58

You need to check both /etc/apt/sources.list and all list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. Somewhere there is an entry with "deb/" rather than "".

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Problem editing grub » 2020-05-30 00:23:46

Here it is: … index.html

Yes. I'm just troubled by, again, a utility not having a proper man page, and secondly that proper documentation is not installed together with the utility. All sorts of other places of documentation is good (the man page would point them out). But all that is of course just one of the "wheels" that needs to be regularly reinvented and done differently, either just because it's possible or because the controlling generation doesn't bother to learn. It's a personal beweiling, basically irrelevant for the topic, so I'm not sure why I keep going with it.

Hopefully the @OP now finds it resolved.

#13 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2020-05-29 10:36:28

Very good. Thanks. Give me a few days to prepare and email the translation basis to you.

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Problem editing grub » 2020-05-29 10:33:04

It seems grub is one of those packages where it's stupidly hard to find documentation, with man pages that just say that "this is documented somewhere else and I'm not telling where"... it turns out that you need to have grub-legacy-doc installed, which provides the texinfo file with documentation using the info system.

Anyhow, according to that you should also use


Afaict GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is the time to wait before showing the menu, and GRUB_TIMEOUT is the time to wait (in addition) before booting to the default choice.

If you also have


then the menu is not actually shown, but the time logic remains the same.

#15 Re: Installation » Devuan ARM64 depndency issue » 2020-05-20 07:24:08

Presumably you'll need to install zlib1g:armhf

#16 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-20 07:14:06

According to my /etc/inittab my boot control script is called /etc/init.d/rc, and that is a link to /lib/init/rc, which is a shell script that by the looks of it has a great number of ways to avoid concurrent boot.
For example put concurrency=none on the boot command line.

#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » no stereo sound » 2020-05-17 13:56:12

In the report of aplay -L at post #7, it says

    PulseAudio Sound Server

That's an indication that there is pulseaudio residue. One thing in that is that it declares the "default" output to be via "pulse" which makes the connection to its audio library. That is all separate from the running or not of the pulseaudio program. To be sure, you should remove the associated configuration files.

Then you might look at what amixer -D default tells about the available controls.

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Microphone on webrtc not working due to hardware settings? » 2020-05-17 13:31:08

I use google-chrome-stable for jitsi myself so I'm not to familiar with that interface, but that toggle it shows seems to be regarding the output and not the input?

I also don't use apparmor, so can't help you there. Not much use I'm afraid; I'm sure you checked through all the browser's own "permission settings".

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Microphone on webrtc not working due to hardware settings? » 2020-05-17 12:36:30

At a guess you are talking about 2 microphones, and the browser cleverly selects the wrong one... perhaps?

#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Can't update system due to NO_PUBKEY, common solutions don't work » 2020-05-16 02:05:53

Yes, the Devuan key was changed a fair while ago, and the easy way out would be

# apt-get -y install devuan-keyring

That package drops a couple of files:


with the first three being for apt.

#21 Re: Installation » First time install; how do I access rest of packages on DVD(on usb) » 2020-05-14 23:52:57

To unmerge is possible but slightly tedious. It just means to move any binary that installs as "/bin/X" (and thus wrongly has falled into "/usr/bin/X" due to /bin-->/usr/bin) back into a proper /bin directory. Likewise for /lib and /usr/lib, although that has the additional complication of getting dynamic libraries re-registered (ldconfig).

Eg a command

dpkg -l | awk '{print $2;}' | xargs -n1 dpkg -L | grep ^/bin/

will tell you which programs are supposed to be in /bin. Similarly for /lib.

But it is a bit tedious.

#22 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-11 13:01:47

You should rather use the "server" iso, which is intended for offline installation.

In fact, all the beowulf installation iso have the same basic installer, but they differ in their on-media pool. The netinstall pool is just enough to let you install from the network, and if you don't, you don't get a very useful system. For beowulf beta3, now available, the netinstall iso pool has been inflated beyond bare necessity to correspond to a debootstrap minbase package collection. That is still not really intended to be used for an offline installation, but it might be possible.

Offline installation is rather what the server iso is intended for, or the desktop iso, if you want a desktop environment but don't want to juggle the CD sized expansion isos for the server iso. Both server and desktop also allow network mirror during installation the same way as the netinstall iso, in which case of course the whole package pool is available.

#23 Re: Installation » No Sound in Devuan-ascii » 2020-05-10 23:51:53

As per post #3 above, aplay -L | grep -A2 default says that your default output is the PulseAudio sound server, which suggests that you do use pulseaudio, or that you have had pulseaudio and removed it partially. If I remember right, a simple "remove" of pulseaudio only removes the library but not the configuration files, and that those may cause trouble. There are three configuration files to look for and get rid of:


Once that is done, you may even need an additional alsactl init, so that you get aplay output to be

$ aplay -L | grep -A2 default
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC3861 Analog
    Default Audio Device
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC3861 Analog
    Default Audio Device

That is a good place to be at smile

#24 Re: Installation » [Solved] Swap partition: swapon error and priority » 2020-05-10 13:31:26

You might need to recreate the "swap signature" within the changed partition, with

mkswap /dev/sda7

#25 Re: Installation » First time install; how do I access rest of packages on DVD(on usb) » 2020-05-09 09:43:08

@Astara: How about you start by revealing the actual name of that file that you somehow downloaded?

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