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#1 Re: Other Issues » [Solved] Older version of php » 2018-07-09 21:17:14

Devuan jessie has 5.6.36+dfsg-0+deb8u1, in jessie-security, so you might be able to install from there.

#2 Re: Installation » Deterministic names for network interfaces? » 2018-07-09 21:05:11

I don't know exactly which set up you had before or which you have now, but I do know that it works how I described.

For this, I installed a fresh Devuan ascii VM with two network interfaces, and have explored the variations. It appears to be the case, that the kernel establishes its interface naming before the udev (i.e., eudev) processing gets a chance. Therefore the first attempt to rename eth0 to eth1 fails, etc.

In my VM, I only added /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules with the two rules (adapted for my mac addresses of course), and looked at the effects of the various alternatives. The set up of naming the secondary interface eth2 works fine.

This test system will of course always pass the kernel's eth0 first to udev. With physical adapters I can imagine the possibility that the kernel passes its eth1 first, in which case this solution would fail anyhow, and then you would rather need to rename both interfaces to unused names.

#3 Re: Installation » Deterministic names for network interfaces? » 2018-07-09 12:41:27

As far as I can tell, the first rule pair is the right one. However,  it's not possible to rename an interface to an already taken name, and the problem is that the udev rules apply well after both interfaces have gained their kernel names. I.e., both names eth0 and eth1 are in use when the rules apply.

Thus, when udev wants to rename eth0 to eth1, it fails because eth1 is already taken. Then the renaming of eth1 to be eth0 also fails for the same reason.

You may however probably rely on that the interface originally named eth0 by the kernel will be processed first. You could therefore set up the rules to name the secondary interface eth2 rather than eth1. Doing so makes eth0 free for any subsequent renaming of the other interface. In that case you will have the interfaces named as eth0 and eth2 via their mac addresses.

If you insist on having eth0 and eth1 you will need a subsequent renaming to happen. That is not easily done through udev, but I think  the ifrename package would be able to deal with this.

#4 Re: Off-topic » I can help Devuan project? » 2018-07-07 23:52:40

This forum is now blessed with a русский language option with your translations. Great!

Note that the forum software, including the translations (in their php form) is available at Devuan's gitlab.

#5 Re: Off-topic » I can help Devuan project? » 2018-06-28 05:50:51

That sounds good. I'll prepare the "translation pack" and email this to your registration email. It involves some 1500 phrases and 17 email templates. Though half or so are for the admin pages, which don't necessarily need translations.

#6 Re: Off-topic » I can help Devuan project? » 2018-06-26 10:20:50

@Eaglet: I you like, you would also be welcome to add the русский flavour to this forum.

#8 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-20 00:10:35

Gems of knowledge into my sea of ignorance .. I hope the OP gets to mark this as solved soon.

#9 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-19 22:57:08

Det låter jättebra. Tack. Låt mig samla ihop underlaget, så skickar jag det till din regestreringsadress (om en dag eller två).

#10 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-19 11:46:43

There are probably many holes in my understanding, but isn't it so, that the server-vpn program already interacts on eth0 for handling its clients; so it's response packets are already outbound on eth0 without any routing?

#11 Re: News & Announcements » The (almost) No Code of Conduct » 2018-06-18 22:56:46

Thanks smile A full day without takers!
In my mind, "blame" is not central to Anarchism; there are other belief systems for that.
But I agree it's a good point: what would Kropotkin say?

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-18 22:49:09

mmm ... all 192.168.x.0/24 (ethX) traffic should go out without ado due to the network route.

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-18 22:02:11

That's a good set of rules for doing no filtering at all, yes smile

If you don't mind, rather dump the output if iptables-save, just to confirm all the tables. Basically, you shouldn't need any iptables rules, except the masquerading of the outbound traffic on tunY. That one is necessary to allow packets with original source from IP 10.8.x.0/24 (i.e., your server-vpn clients) or 192.168.y.0/24 (your wlanX neighbors), as well as allowing packets from 192.168.x.0/24 (your ethX neighbors) to be forwarded and masqueraded through tunY.

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-18 21:17:51

What would be the best way to check?

Remove the rule

iptables -A FORWARD -j REJECT

to see if it works without it.

Then add it back, preceded by rules that allow forwarding between tunX and tunY.

#15 Re: Installation » Network booting » 2018-06-18 07:54:25

Right. Some random googling suggests … html#p6319 to me, but you might have tried that already?

#17 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » SSD/HDD keeps spinning after resume from suspend » 2018-06-17 23:17:20

That Ubuntu solution is not right for Devuan.

However they suggest that hdparm -S is ineffective, and maybe that's the first thing to investigate. If it works fine, then the command

# hdparm -S 2 /dev/hda

would make the disk /dev/hda spin down after 10 seconds. Perhaps you can check that to begin with.

If that works, then the resume code path that leads to that (or the similar) command is broken, and we can look at that.
If not, then it's a more difficult problem.

#18 Re: News & Announcements » The (almost) No Code of Conduct » 2018-06-17 22:49:53

If I understand it right, the basic tenet against a published Troll Count is on the line that it's more likely to be (mis-) used by a bunch of dickheads banding together to wield dickheadary against some normal adult member, than that it's used by the normal adult members as (weak) indicator towards the censoring of a dickhead.

Well, perhaps. I'll leave my head where it is for the moment.

#19 Re: News & Announcements » The (almost) No Code of Conduct » 2018-06-17 01:24:03

Just to add some motivation:

My assertion is that when you are trolling, you are trolling whether you think so or not; it's not up to you, as a troll, to judge it right or wrong. Further, I believe some people would be too polite to nominate a troll if they thought the troll would see them doing it. They would rather suffer the trolling, and that would dull any edge of this extension.

The troll list is that little bit different from an ignore list in publishing the count, in the hope that it both stimulates people to evaluate the (perhaps) trolling posts more thoughtfully, and triggers self-criticism for the (somewhat) trolling poster.

#20 Re: News & Announcements » The (almost) No Code of Conduct » 2018-06-17 00:18:45

You got it right. There is no way you can find out who are ignoring you (short of bribing me to tell you, of course).

#21 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-16 22:27:33

Great! Dutch, or "Netherlands", is a new language for this forum, as is German ("Deutche"), so those tasks will involve the full grunt of translating some 1500 phrases, and 16 email templates.

I used to have a script that made a CSV for the phrases to make it easier But, as that was a couple of laptops ago, it'll take a short while to recall. When I've done so, and prepared the basis, I'll email it to your registration email address.

It reminds me that I'm still sitting still on the Swedish translation sad

#22 Re: News & Announcements » The (almost) No Code of Conduct » 2018-06-16 21:09:56

Perhaps one of you could spell out a way in which this might be abused, or rather I assume, a way in which this function can be used to abuse someone?

Is it that you think, that by X seeing an elevated troll count for Y, they (X) would be more inclined than otherwise to also nominate Y as troll? Or that Y would be unhappy seeing that so many members see them as a troll?

If Y is trolling in the eyes of some/many, then Y is trolling in the eyes of some/many, whether Y thinks so or not.
Without feedback, Y won't learn or change.

#23 Re: Installation » Wrong /etc/locale.gen after Ascii net-install with additional locale » 2018-06-14 07:04:01

Package locales seems to be the owner of /etc/locale.gen (or at least the man page).

#24 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 07:01:12

I think you're using the url tag back-to-front; it takes the actual url in the begin tag, and the description between the tags. So if you swap those, it becomes a click-accessible url. As is, one has to copy that url that is seen and paste to follow, rather than clicking it.

#25 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » openvpn server and client on same box » 2018-06-12 23:28:11

devuser might be right, though one thing is that you do need to allow forwarding between tunX and tunY.

server-vpn might keep its clients up-to-date with its own gateway, which changes from 192.168.x.1 to be 10.8.y.1. It thus configures its clients' routing to pass 10.8.y.1 traffic through itself, and that traffic would stop at the forwarding block.

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