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#1 Re: Installation » freia desktop-live test iso » Today 03:28:03

Since you have this particular interest in that topic, you should send in a patch for it. Off hand I'd say it concerns the debconf aspect of tasksel which is a forked package, so you could possibly start there. All else is just whinging no matter what you think.

#2 Re: Installation » freia desktop-live test iso » Today 01:05:05

just for clarity, "Devuan" is the provider of curated software repositories that include all Debian software except systemd and dependent software. Everyone using Devuan is both free to choose and install the desktop setup, if any, they like to use. I believe it's even possible to install a couple of them on the one system, though it'd probably be slightly cumbersome to have several running at the same time as they have competing resource expectations. If you don't like xfce then don't use it. There is no reason to whinge about it.

#3 Re: Forum Feedback » Username change » Yesterday 04:42:15

Absolutely not. You made your choice 2 years ago, so that's who you are.

#4 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [...] Spaced Linux 10.26.2 » 2026-10-30 22:48:01

Somehow you seem to have missed the brief that github is a Microsoft venture. Don't be there.

#5 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » rupee currency symbol (₹) » 2026-10-28 11:03:35

Search for xkb_symbols "eng" ... a small stanza between "hin-wx" and "mal_enhanced". It obviously was left out from the documentation.

#6 Re: Other Issues » Restarting sddm makes regular user part of the root group » 2026-10-27 21:41:41

Well for a while I used xdm myself, of nostalgia perhaps, but on this last machine I've got lightdm with lxqt-session and then xfwm4 as window manager. My setup includes much of LxQt though I've swapped in xfce4-terminal which had more configurability in looks and behaviour (getting reduced it seems).

lightdm probably works for you, otherwise xdm is a simple and good "greeter". It's a function where "less is more".

#7 Re: Packaging for Devuan » Upstream Fixes from Spaced Linux » 2026-10-26 21:27:28

Firstly you should note "github" is a Microsoft venture, and that sane people have left it already years ago.

Secondly, debian packages are maintaned by debian. Most of debian's packaging projects reside in salsa.debian.org. Though, the usual way to submit patches would be via bug reports to bugs.debian.org for debian packages and bugs.devuan.org for devuan packages. I as you said there is a bug number for your issue you would submit to that.

#8 Re: Other Issues » Restarting sddm makes regular user part of the root group » 2026-10-26 21:15:10

Looking at sddm source, it appears the user session process is started by uid root, so the subsequent groups fiddling (getgroups) will merge root's groups with the user's and set that for the process. In short it seems to boil down to crappy design. You'd do well in opting for some other "display manager".

#9 Re: Other Issues » Restarting sddm makes regular user part of the root group » 2026-10-26 12:09:01

Is the user actually added to the root group, or is it merely a case of group propagation in process exec chain? You can check with grep user /etc/group if user is in the root: line. (That file is the "groups database')

You might try again with "-g user" but make sure the old pid file is deleted beforehand; though it's slightly odd to get permission issue for non-root group. This is an attempt to avoid the root group in the process exec chain.

#10 Re: Other Issues » Restarting sddm makes regular user part of the root group » 2026-10-26 11:45:31

Ah, I messed up; meant that those lines would be in /etc/pam.d/sddm-greeter

#11 Re: Other Issues » Restarting sddm makes regular user part of the root group » 2026-10-26 09:54:33

Yeah I should really test it myself, but anyhow the second option would be to add the pam_group.so line at the top, to make it be:

auth    required        pam_permit.so
auth    optional        pam_group.so

For clairty although I'm pretty sure you did it; you must stop and restart the sddm service for testing.

Then, an alternative might be to add -g user to the sudo command so as to make the root user starting the service while in the user group.

#12 Re: Other Issues » Restarting sddm makes regular user part of the root group » 2026-10-26 07:16:27

As a suggestion, you might try editing /etc/pam.d/sddm to make the line

@include common-auth

be the two lines

@include common-auth
auth optional pam_group.so

I'm hoping that might make the login procedure via sddm more aligned with the procedure of tty login and in particular add a pam_group.so call that seems to be missing. Though it's kind of an untested wild guess so don't hold your breath.

#13 Re: Installation » upgrade Chimaera with Daedelus? » 2026-10-23 01:30:36

I'm sure you know that upgrade at any time is totally fine, with or without reason.

#14 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Nvidia drivers with security issues - what solutions for Devuan 6? » 2026-10-17 21:34:47

Dynamic linking includes some version handling and it is common practice that after placing a lib in the lib collection(s), one runs ldconfig for reasons that are somewhat explained in

man ldconfig

ldconfig will then establish the "soname" link that the dynamic linker (ld.so) requires. There is also the documentation

man ld.so

that really represents 101 knowledge for us who want to understand.

#16 Re: Freedom Hacks » The Absurdist Comedy » 2026-10-14 22:54:50

Yeah, and others too. Your scale is not useful as it makes your language be an implied offense. Unless of course you want to show up as a rude prick.

#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Devuan 7, regarding KDE Plasma 6.7.6 and SonicDE » 2026-10-14 21:56:55

Yes and no. Obviously refracta-snapshot works well to replicate a system software setup from one platform to another when the platforms are more or less equal, whilst pre-seeding may be the better choice for replicating the intention of a setup across divergent platforms.

#18 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Spaced Linux » 2026-10-13 23:17:14

Wasn't this thread started by yourself @Ron, as a question to the world about the motive behind a particular situation among the threads on this forum?

Therefore the thread ended up here, because I decided that that kind of discussion is more suited to this section.

Overall this, i.e. dev1galaxy.org, is a discussions forum of many section, and certain sections should be more focussed in their topics than others. It's not always easy to do that with the range of minds around here generating all sorts of posts to make threads floating in all sorts of directions. Yet I don't see any hands raised for taking on the moderator responsibility; just the odd whining by rando's.

#19 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Devuan 7, regarding KDE Plasma 6.7.6 and SonicDE » 2026-10-12 22:51:00

KindlyDoRight wrote:

is there an appropriate way for me have back-and-forth "troubling shooting session" with kapqa?

Go for it.

Possibly you together want to work out a more direct and private chat channel, e.g., using direct messaging on IRC libera.chat, or email or something. But continuing this thread is ok too.

#20 Re: Installation » Adhoc Test Plan for Installation ISOs » 2026-10-10 00:13:44

@KindlyDoRight, after review and discussion we have decided that suspending is not warranted, and we welcome you back as forum member.

Onwards we want to remind you and everyone about the virtue of minimalism both in content and count of forum posts. We moderators prefer to avoid moderating against personal style but rather prefer that people self-adjust towards a coherent and pleasant discussions forum on Devuan related matters. And to be sure: AI generated posts are not acceptable.

#21 Re: Installation » Adhoc Test Plan for Installation ISOs » 2026-10-09 22:31:19

Please consider; it's unfair to paint this OP with general failings of generations, which, if it needs discussion, should be pursued in a separate, off-topic thread. I'm thankful for blackhole's and additional reflections on the question of AI-slop-or-not, though preferrably as email to me rther than additional posts on this thread.

#22 Re: Installation » Adhoc Test Plan for Installation ISOs » 2026-10-08 23:08:48

@KindlyDoRight as noted by golinux, we think your postings are generated. Your account is currently suspended. Please email me to discuss.

#23 Re: Installation » Adhoc Test Plan for Installation ISOs » 2026-10-08 22:48:24

That explains nothing. What do those terms mean for you? Why do you use them?

#24 Re: Installation » Adhoc Test Plan for Installation ISOs » 2026-10-08 22:26:48

"pain points" ?? "friction" ?? What are you talking about?

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