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#1751 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Mozilla Firefox unacceptable tactics - PLEASE ADVISE » 2019-05-06 00:49:13
Hello:
... using Pale Moon for years and love it.
... post here (in off topic I suppose). I usually visit this forum ...
Will do.
Thank you.
A.
#1752 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Mozilla Firefox unacceptable tactics - PLEASE ADVISE » 2019-05-05 20:04:59
Hello:
Thanks a lot.
Installed Pale Moon and uBlock Origin + a No Coin file that works with it.
It all works, for the time being.
Big bonus is that the interface is not screwed up.
If this setup really works as I need, I am seriously thinking of not going back to Mozilla Firefox.
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#1753 Re: Installation » Devuan ASCII 32bit on Asus 1000HE issue » 2019-05-05 16:56:50
Hello:
That's interesting, you have two entries for the same device, no idea why
The display appears to be working fine, so that would be something to look at later on.
Maybe it has to do with the 1000HE's vga port?
In any case, the issue in this post was mainly related to eeepc_wmi.
I have searched the web and traced the problem to a bug in linux-source-4.9 kernel due to a regression apparently caused by this patch:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke … ?h=v4.9.51
It seems that it is the same as this, but [sort of] explained:
https://git.amelchem.com/amel/linux/com … 573777c6ac
If legacy device (SB.ATKD - ASUS010) used by eeepc-laptop
is enabled, don't allow eeepc-wmi to load because:
- eeepc-laptop may be loaded, and can conflict with
eeepc-wmi (they both try to register eeepc::touchpad
led for example).
- the WMI interface is inteded to be used when the OS is
not detected as Win 7. And when this is the case, the
ASUS010 device is disabled.
Edit
Apparently the ASUS010 device is the EEEPC Hotkey set.
See
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/ … c-laptop.c
#define EEEPC_LAPTOP_VERSION "0.1"
#define EEEPC_LAPTOP_NAME "Eee PC Hotkey Driver"
#define EEEPC_LAPTOP_FILE "eeepc"#define EEEPC_ACPI_CLASS "hotkey"
#define EEEPC_ACPI_DEVICE_NAME "Hotkey"
#define EEEPC_ACPI_HID "ASUS010"
/Edit
Here's the original bug report from 20170920:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=876303
Here's what apparently needs to be done, no idea though.
"So I removed the 'use acpi_dev_found' patch from my kernel source, and without
this patch eeepc_wmi is loaded successfully, and all fn+ buttons working with
this netbook without acpi_os=Linux extra boot parameter"
And this is the last post in the bug report darted 20180301:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =876303#28
I've written to the author of the last post and apparently the bug is still there.
I have to get some live 32bit distro with a 5.0 kernel to see if it has been fixed but I am not holding my breath.
Looks like a bug originated in what was probably (?) a hastily applied patch.
It would be nice if the same haste would be applied to rolling it back. No?
Any ideas welcome (blacklisting something, etc.).
Cheers,
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#1754 Desktop and Multimedia » Mozilla Firefox unacceptable tactics - PLEASE ADVISE » 2019-05-05 02:31:15
- Altoid
- Replies: 15
Hello:
I use Mozilla Firefox 55, an outdated version.
I do it for a very good reason.
Beside the newer interfaces being utter crap, the specific reason is that with this version I can still use three add-ons that I find very important to have while on-line.
1. No Coin
2. Privacy Badger
3. UBlock Origin
I have managed perfectly well up to now with no issues whatsoever but this afternoon I find that they have been disabled.
When I go to Tools > Add-ons I see that each of the extensions has a legend saying "... could not be verified for muse in Firefox and has been disabled."
Does anyone know what the holy fuck is going on here?
I do not allow automatic upgrades or addons from anyone unless specifically done by me.
So how has this happened?
And most important, how can this crap be overridden?
Thanks in advance.
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#1755 Re: Installation » Devuan ASCII 32bit on Asus 1000HE issue » 2019-05-05 01:34:34
Hello:
What does the plain lspci -knn report about your graphics card?
Much more.
And about the other hardware too.
Here you go ...
groucho@devuan:~$ lspci -knn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Memory Controller Hub [8086:27ac] (rev 03)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 945GSE Express Memory Controller Hub [1043:8340]
--->
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27ae] (rev 03)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:8340]
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915
00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27a6] (rev 03)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:8340]
<---
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [1043:834a]
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 02)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 2 [8086:27d2] (rev 02)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 4 [8086:27d6] (rev 02)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:27c8] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller [1043:830f]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:27c9] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller [1043:830f]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:27ca] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller [1043:830f]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
00:1d.3 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:27cb] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller [1043:830f]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:27cc] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller [1043:830f]
Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
Kernel modules: ehci_pci
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [8086:2448] (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:27b9] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge [1043:830f]
Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich
Kernel modules: intel_rng, lpc_ich, leds_ss4200
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller [8086:27df] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller [1043:830f]
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
Kernel modules: ata_piix, ata_generic
00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [IDE mode] [8086:27c4] (rev 02)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [IDE mode] [1043:830f]
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
Kernel modules: ata_piix, ata_generic
01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe [1814:0781]
Subsystem: AzureWave RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe [1a3b:1059]
Kernel driver in use: rt2800pci
Kernel modules: rt2800pci
03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet [1969:1026] (rev b0)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet [1043:8324]
Kernel driver in use: ATL1E
Kernel modules: atl1e
groucho@devuan:~$Oh, and leave that poor cat(1) alone:
grep -i _OS dsdt.dsl
There's more than one way to skin a cat. =-)
I still have to polish my command line.
Thanks for the tip.
Cheers,
A.
#1756 Re: Installation » Devuan ASCII 32bit on Asus 1000HE issue » 2019-05-04 20:01:47
Hello:
You could try clearing the string by using
acpi_osi=
This is what I get using acpi_osi= in the kernel line.
groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg | grep eeepc
[ 6.284913] eeepc_laptop: Eee PC Hotkey Driver
[ 6.285177] eeepc_laptop: Hotkey init flags 0x41
[ 6.286378] eeepc_laptop: TYPE (2000000) not reported by BIOS, enabling anyway
[ 6.292166] eeepc_laptop: PANELPOWER (4000000) not reported by BIOS, enabling anyway
[ 6.292281] eeepc_laptop: Get control methods supported: 0x6101713
[ 6.293219] input: Asus EeePC extra buttons as /devices/platform/eeepc/input/input7
--- from here down were already there ---
[ 7.878347] eeepc_wmi: Found legacy ATKD device (ASUS010)
[ 7.884493] eeepc_wmi: WMI device present, but legacy ATKD device is also present and enabled
[ 7.890126] eeepc_wmi: You probably booted with acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009"
[ 7.895852] eeepc_wmi: Can't load eeepc-wmi, use default acpi_osi (preferred) or eeepc-laptop
[ 7.901709] eeepc-wmi: probe of eeepc-wmi failed with error -16
[ 8.559056] eeepc_laptop: Unable to find port
groucho@devuan:~$ Just FYI, the options I got from disassembling dsdt.dat are these:
groucho@devuan:~/dsdt$ cat dsdt.dsl | grep -i _OS
If (CondRefOf (_OSI, Local1))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2000"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2001"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP1"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP2"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2001.1"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2001.1 SP1"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2006"))
ElseIf (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft Windows NT"))
If (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft WindowsME: Millennium Edition"))
If (MCTH (_OS, "Linux"))
If (CondRefOf (_OSI, Local0))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2001"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP1"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP2"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2006"))
If (_OSI ("Windows 2009"))
If (_OSI ("Linux"))
ElseIf (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft Windows"))
ElseIf (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft WindowsME: Millennium Edition"))
ElseIf (MCTH (_OS, "Microsoft Windows NT"))
groucho@devuan:~/dsdt$ The kernel is evidently seeing something somewhere that is indicating acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009".
That said, the default acpi_osi (preferred) or eeepc-laptop entires are not in the dsdt file.
I'll have to run some tests and see what happens.
Can you post
lspci -knn | grep -iA2 'vga\|3d\|display'
It returns nothing.
I seem to recall having seen something about ASUS010 somewhere once ...
I'll have a look and see what I can find.
Thanks for your input.
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#1757 Installation » Devuan ASCII 32bit on Asus 1000HE issue » 2019-05-04 15:44:12
- Altoid
- Replies: 6
Hello:
I have recently installed Devuan 32 bit ASCII on my (old but trusty) Asus 1000HE, in preparation for (eventually) ridding myself of the present XP installation which I still use for some things like tax returns and coffee roasting software.
groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.9.0-9-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1 (2019-04-12) i686 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$ For the moment Devuan boots from an SD Card holding grub while the rest of the installaton is on the HD.
This allows me to boot into XD when I need to and at the same time not have to mess with the drive's mbr.
The rig works (quite) well and the hardware is holding up almost as well as my Palm IIIxe's. (!)
Unfortunately, one of the USB ports has a broken tab so there's some surgery ahead.
---
I am really very thankful for having a 32bit systemd free installation such as Devuan available, hopefully 32bit support will continue for a few years.
---
I've been going though the logs to see what needs tuning/unloading/fixing as this Atom N280@166/2Gb RAM system needs not be unduly taxed.
eg: there are no serial, parallel or PS/2 ports, among other things which are loading modules.
There are also some things that I use every so often but are not working properly, eg: Asus hot keys.
One thing I have found in dmesg is this:
groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i eee
[ 8.043608] eeepc_wmi: Found legacy ATKD device (ASUS010)
[ 8.043690] eeepc_wmi: WMI device present, but legacy ATKD device is also present and enabled
[ 8.043784] eeepc_wmi: You probably booted with acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009" <---- ???
[ 8.043877] eeepc_wmi: Can't load eeepc-wmi, use default acpi_osi (preferred) or eeepc-laptop
[ 8.043977] eeepc-wmi: probe of eeepc-wmi failed with error -16
groucho@devuan:~$ The thing is that my kernel command line does not have acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009".
groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg
--- snip ---
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-9-686-pae root=UUID=24b98eaa-bf67-4746-a866-473cac307016 ro ipv6.disable=1 enable_mtrr_cleanup
--- /snip ---So ...
What is to be done with this?
I have not been able to find out just what a legacy ATKD device is.
Combing through lshw I did find an unclaimed device:
*-display:1 UNCLAIMED
description: Display controller
product: Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
resources: memory:f7f80000-f7ffffffAny ideas?
Thanks in advance.
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#1758 Re: Installation » [Solved] apt sources list retrieve? » 2019-04-29 19:33:03
Hello:
Try ...
Neat ... =-D!
Thanks for the tip.
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#1759 Re: Installation » [Solved] Software selection in Devuan ASCII netinst » 2019-04-28 18:07:13
Hello:
... the mantainer of the package xfce4 dont agree ...
We may be drifting off topic here ...
But jo make my position clear: I'm not nocking Linux or Devuan, quite the contrary.
It is just that (IMO) what XFCE does by forcing the installation of (unneeded) Orage and on top of that, making it impossible to uninstall without also uninstalling XFCE altogether is contrary to the basic philosophy behind Linux:
------------------- > Do one thing and do it well.
There are other programs/maintainers that do this same sort of thing.
Must have all learnt how to do it at the Redmond Academy. 8-D!!!
Different opinions, not big deal ...
Well ...
It's the same type of different opinion than generated the need for Devuan.
systemd is also a different opinion on how to do things and also contrary to the basic philosophy behind Linux.
... is very simple: not install the package xfce4 ...
Just what I am doing: openbox and tint2 work quite well for the time being.
... point Altoid talk about is very important for me.
It is of the utmost importance, not only to both of us but for how Linux will continue to develop.
Thanks a lot for your input.
Best,
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#1760 Re: Installation » [Solved] apt sources list retrieve? » 2019-04-28 17:47:48
Hello:
... can't really install such a configuration without already having a configuration ...
Indeed !!! LoL
Only after a good while did I realise how dumb my question was.
ie:
You have to know where the source is to know where the source is.
A chicken or egg? thing. 8-/
So when I got home I cp'd the sources.list file from my other desktop setup to /etc/apt and that was it.
... assuming your can trust it ...
Hmmm ...
For all my Devuan things I trust only Devuan sources.
Or ones that have been adequately verified by other derived distributions/groups.
... of highest importance security-wise that the machine administrator knows exactly what the "apt sub system" configuration is.
There is no escape from putting enough cognitive effort into learning it.
Quite so ...
For all my Linux experiences, I have (almost) always used synaptic, but with this installation on my trusty 1000HE, I have been rather enjoying the command line once again.
Reminds me of my long gone DOS days and hopefully I'll be able to pick up the pace soon enough.
... includes the "pinning" aspect, which is configured in the /etc/apt/preferences.d/* files, and the "general apt parameters" of /etc/apt/apt.conf and the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* files.
Right. Duly noted, thanks for the heads up.
Hopefully I'll one day be able to do anything on the command line in Linux. =-)
... devised at a time when the nuances of "trust" were less developed ...
... totally off parity with its importance.
Maybe that will change one day, if we all put enough behind that notion.
There's too much bad influence out there, convenience seems to have become the word.
Thanks for your input.
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#1761 Installation » [Solved] apt sources list retrieve? » 2019-04-27 22:49:16
- Altoid
- Replies: 6
Hello:
Is there a way to retrieve the /etc/apt/sources.list file from the command line?
Something like this:
# apt-get install sources.list <- just an idea, I know it does not workOr do I have to jed and edit sources.list by hand?
Thanks in advance.
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#1762 Re: Installation » [Solved] Software selection in Devuan ASCII netinst » 2019-04-27 20:53:28
Hello:
... defaults of any OS instalations are just that, the defaults.
Of course ...
My point being that getting Orage installed by default when installing the XFCE desktop does not seem to have any justification.
Or is it an essential part of XFCE, without which XFCE does not function at all or is in any way hampered?
... glad to know that your problem is fixed.
Thanks.
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#1763 Re: Installation » [Solved] Software selection in Devuan ASCII netinst » 2019-04-26 23:24:52
Hello:
This time the installation went through without any issues but the result has been the same as before, in the two machines I have.
But it will not boot.I just get a j (lowercase) followed by a blinking underscore.
ie: j_
I managed to fix the problem but have no idea why it happened or how to avoid it happening.
To fix it, with the USB installation in place, I booted with a Devuan ASCII 2.0.0_i386_DVD-1 installer DVD, went to Rescue Mode and reinstalled GRUB to the USB stick (/dev/sdb).
And that was it.
The drive booted into GRUB and upon logging in I installed XFCE4 which, after a reboot, started without any issues (for the time being).
rant
It's a pity that installing a desktop drags so much stuff in with it ...
eg: I did not ask for an Orage Calendar or Orage Globaltime.
But there it is.
And uninstalling it also uninstalls XFCE4 (and only XFCE4).
Reminds me of some similar MS practises we have all suffered at some time or another ...
/rant
But the problem is fixed.
Thanks for your input.
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#1764 Re: Installation » [Solved] Software selection in Devuan ASCII netinst » 2019-04-26 21:01:23
Hello:
Yes. Repeat the procedure. At the first error ...
I've repeated the procedure.
But in case there was some issue with the SDCard, this time I carried out the installation using the same devuan_ascii_2.0.0_i386_netinst.iso burnt to a CD instead of dd'd to an SD Card.
Again, the CD-ROM was correctly verified.
This time the installation went through without any issues but the result has been the same as before, in the two machines I have.
But it will not boot.
I just get a j (lowercase) followed by a blinking underscore.
ie: j_
The fdisk -l output is the same, only difference is where the boot partition starts (2048 instead of 4096):
groucho@devuan:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf
[sudo] password for groucho:
Disk /dev/sdf: 7.2 GiB, 7757398016 bytes, 15151168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x000312cd
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdf1 * 2048 9220095 9218048 4.4G 83 Linux
/dev/sdf2 9222142 15151103 5928962 2.8G 5 Extended
/dev/sdf5 9222144 12294143 3072000 1.5G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdf6 12296192 15151103 2854912 1.4G 83 Linux
groucho@devuan:~$ A.
#1765 Re: Installation » [Solved] Software selection in Devuan ASCII netinst » 2019-04-25 23:12:24
Hello:
... everything except 'Standard system utilities' at the tasksel window ...
It refused to do it.
ie: failed at that point in the installation.
Retried a number of times but the only way I was able to continue and write GRUB to the USB stick was to uncheck that.
But it will not boot.
I just get a j (lowercase) followed by a blinking underscore.
ie: j_
I'm having a very hard time with this installation, no idea what's going on.
The .iso file I downloaded checked out perfectly well and the installer verified the "CD-ROM" so that's not it.
This is what I have:
groucho@devuan:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf
[sudo] password for groucho:
Disk /dev/sdf: 7.2 GiB, 7757398016 bytes, 15151168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x000312cd
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdf1 * 4096 9220095 9216000 4.4G 83 Linux
/dev/sdf2 9222142 15151103 5928962 2.8G 5 Extended
/dev/sdf5 9222144 12294143 3072000 1.5G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdf6 12296192 15151103 2854912 1.4G 83 Linux
groucho@devuan:~$ Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
A.
#1766 Re: Installation » [Solved] Software selection in Devuan ASCII netinst » 2019-04-25 21:33:46
Hello:
... If you choose one of the desktops in the installer, you get the task-xxx-desktop package that pulls in everything else.
I see ...
... un-check everything except 'Standard system utilities' at the tasksel window, you'll get a working cli-only system, and you can then install xfce4 and whatever else you want.
OK, sound like it may be pretty much what I need.
I suppose it configures the wired network?
... install from CD-1 without a network mirror.
... a working desktop with a bunch of the usual stuff missing.
... not sure if that includes libreoffice or not.
I think it does.
Thanks for your input.
A.
#1767 Installation » [Solved] Software selection in Devuan ASCII netinst » 2019-04-25 20:50:01
- Altoid
- Replies: 20
Hello:
I'm needing to install Devuan with just the main stuff + XFCE so I can complete the installation later on once bootedup and running.
eg: no Open Office, among other things.
But I see no way of doing this in Devuan ASCII netinst, even with the advanced option.
Any way to do this?
Thanks in advance.
A.
#1768 Re: Installation » Boot from SD / Installation to HDD question » 2019-04-23 20:14:22
Hello:
... you can boot from the SD card ...
Yes.
Hitting esc at boot time gives me what Asus rather awkwardly calls the BBS Popup (Boot Selection Popup) menu, where I can choose from HDD, SD Card slot or whatever is plugged into whichever one of the three USB 2.0 ports has something booteable plugged in. I haven't been able to find out what the extra B in BBS stands for, but it sounds/looks bad. =-D!
... should be able to install grub to the SD card, put / on the SD card, and put /home /var and swap on the HDD.
OK
... normal installation that can be updated/upgraded.
That's great.
If you want to install to the usb stick ...
No, not really.
In my experience, I have found some USB ports to be liable to have problems, not in the contacts (unless abused) but with the plastic 'tonge' that is supposed to be the support for whatever is plugged in.
Unfortunately, it is far too easy to inadvertently exert force on the plugged in whatever in such a way that it leverages this plastic piece up/down.
After a number of these instances (think 2010 to today) and even if they are very slight, the plastic will eventually weaken and then break off.
Which is why I'd rather boot from the SD slot.
... it is possible to boot to ram and then install to the same stick.
What would drive me to boot to RAM is that it would be a faster read while installing.
... leave 2MB free space before the first partition.
Grub might need that. Gparted insists on leaving 1MB.
Keep your eye on that.
Will do. Once again, thanks for the heads up.
2MB it is then. =-)
Thanks a lot for your input.
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#1769 Re: Installation » Boot from SD / Installation to HDD question » 2019-04-23 17:38:10
Hello:
It should work ...
OK, one down. =-)
... it's normal to have different partitions on different drives.
I thought as much once I realised I could split / from the rest of the installation and boot my main rig from a SSD.
Have not done it yet.
I really like Linux's ability to put things in their own place.
I recall that in another life/another OS, I put both the /swap and a /programs directory on separate partitions.
I did not trust the MS 'program files' arrangement.
Not to much use besides keeping things tidy as a lot of stuff still ended up in /program files.
Eventually I put the swap file in the same partition as /programs as all that took a toll speedwise.
Take note of what the device names are when you boot from usb vs. booting from internal disk.
Of course, thanks for the heads up.
Using uuids in fstab should help with that.
OK.
What worries me a bit is the actual process, eg:
1. boot Devuan ASCII (to ram?) from image dd'd to a USB stick.
2. install to the second partition (ext4) on HDD, where the first partition (NTFS) holds the XP installation.
3. make sure /, boot record and GRUB are installed to the SC Card in the slot.
Q1.: How do I make that last part of the process failsafe?
Q2.: Am I correct in assuming that installing ASCII in this manner will allow for updating?
It is something I have found booting from an *.iso with persistance will not and mess it all up.
Thanks for your input.
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#1770 Installation » Boot from SD / Installation to HDD question » 2019-04-23 15:24:14
- Altoid
- Replies: 5
Hello:
I've seen that I could boot my ASCII rig from a 32Gb SDD (holding just / ) with the rest of the installation ie: /home, /var and /swap residing on separate partitions in another HD.
I was wondering if I could do something analogous with my Asus 1000HE 2Gb netbook on which I need to run XP for some time yet.
ie: boot from a USB or SD card holding just / and with the rest of the installation ie: /home, /var and /swap residing on separate partitions in the netbook's HD, where the first partition and the boot record belong to XP.
I have attempted to boot with an *.iso image and use the persistence option but it has proven to be rather problematic.
Thanks in advance.
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Edited: dyslexical spelling mistakes.
#1771 Hardware & System Configuration » CPUFreq issues » 2019-04-07 01:06:17
- Altoid
- Replies: 0
Hello:
It seems that there's a bug (race condiiton) in the kernel's CPUFreq code, only discovered from 4.20 due to some changes in the kernel.
I understand it is still an issue in the 5.0 kernel. (read it somewhere but now I just cannot find the link ...)
See:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199349#c4
I happen to have a shutdown hang issue with my rig and was wondering if the fact that I have cpufrequtils installed makes things worse.
It is set at 'performance' with no min o max settings so that it does not kick in (I guess it does not).
But the issue is still there. =-/
Would uninstalling cpufrequtils and using linux-cpupower instead for setting performance help in any way?
Is all this (cpufreq and linux-cpupower) in any way related to cpuidle and how it works?
groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i cpuidle
[ 0.172005] cpuidle: using governor ladder
[ 0.188005] cpuidle: using governor menu
groucho@devuan:~$ Thanks in advance.
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#1772 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-06 16:27:05
Hello:
... lost our understanding of April fools jokes?
No ...
Providing April's Fool pranks are something you are sufficiently acquainted with to understand what they are about.
If not, just like you (apparently sufficiently acquainted), people who are not (a great many others) will also be fooled.
And therefore rightly alarmed.
Enough to send an Admin a mail, like I did.
... think it was pretty funny - gopher!
I would ask you to consider that sufficiently acquainted actually entails knowing where necessary limits lay.
ie: what can be considered an April's Fool joke and what ends up being a stupid prank reflecting in the worse possible manner on its author.
Becasue with respect to humour, a basic sense of oportunity, grasp of context and timing are what make the difference between being funny or an utter dick-head.
I certainly did not find it funny and am really very dissapointed to have seen this happen here.
Of course, YMMV.
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#1773 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Editing /proc/acpi/wakeup » 2019-04-03 14:48:01
Hello:
... if I can bash out a modification.
It would seem that acpitool is just an application that writes to /proc/acpi/wakeup, just like you would do by using echo.
Found a helping hand at Stack Overflow and put this script to execute at boot (in rc.local)
#!/bin/sh
# set /proc/acpi/wakeup to disabled with acpitool
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:
for i in $(seq 1 9)
do
/usr/bin/acpitool -W $i
done
groucho@devuan:~$ This is the result, sleep to all input devices seen by acpitool set to disabled:
$ acpitool -w
Device S-state Status Sysfs node
---------------------------------------
1. USB0 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1d.0
2. USB1 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1d.1
3. USB2 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1d.2
4. USB5 S4 *disabled
5. EUSB S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1d.7
6. USB3 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1a.0
7. USB4 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1a.1
8. USB6 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1a.2
9. USBE S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1a.7
10. P0P1 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:01.0
11. P0P2 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:06.0
12. P0P3 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1c.0
13. BR11 S4 *disabled
14. BR12 S4 *disabled
15. BR13 S4 *disabled
16. P0P4 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1c.4
17. BR15 S4 *disabled
18. P0P5 S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:1e.0
19. GBE S4 *disabled pci:0000:00:19.0
20. SLPB S4 *disabled
$ Cheers,
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#1774 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Editing /proc/acpi/wakeup » 2019-04-02 11:35:10
Hello:
Rather than use acpitool ...
Indeed ...
That's the first option I came across when I started with this but I was at odds with the posted script because (as I understand it) it activates when the machine is going into suspend, which my machine will not do as I have turned off all PM options.
It's a Sun Ultra 24 with a buggy BIOS (last version available) and ACPI issues so as part of the intended fix, I have deactivated all PM features.
When I found sysctl (which does not work with /proc/sys) and then acpitool, I went with the latter as it did work and seemed rather more straightforward, albeit with my very clumsy script.
I'll look into the posted script again and see if I can bash out a modification. (pun intended). =-)
Thanks a lot for your input.
Cheers,
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#1775 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Editing /proc/acpi/wakeup » 2019-04-02 02:05:52
Hello:
I could be wrong here but ...
There's a post here https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … 417_417965 that may indicate that you are right ...
/proc/acpi/wakeup is not a child of /proc/sys, sysctl doesn't work here.
... but it's over my pay grade, no idea how that works. =-/
... script is the "correct" solution.
Yes, the script is a solution and the one I'm using works but it's awfull.
If I cannot find a way for the command acpitool -W to address multiple entries in /proc/acpi/wakeup at once, I need a more complex script ie: with a minimum of elegance to do it with.
Any idea where I can get a sample script to modify from?
Thanks in advance.
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