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#1451 ARM Builds » [Solved] Devuan and Raspberry Pi 3B+ hardware » 2020-05-14 20:46:48

Altoid
Replies: 16

Hello:

Working on my RPi3B+ hardware setup I have come across a few things for which I am still trying to wrap my head around.
Evidently ARM is not x86 and ARM64 is not x86_64.

One of the things that I'm not getting is the configuration of things related to the GPIO pins.
It seems that most if not all the settings for the GPIO pins rely on systemd, which Raspbian uses.

Another thing I have come across is the fact that vcgencmd is not in the image I've installed and cannot be installed from the repository.
And there's probably more I will be finding out about as I make progress with my installation/configuration.

Is there a way of getting around all this or will I end up having to use Raspbian in my RPi3B+?

Thanks in advance,

A.

#1452 Re: Installation » [Solved] Swap partition: swapon error and priority » 2020-05-12 14:36:02

Altoid

Hello:

larsH wrote:

... only one swap partition (or swapfile) the priority has no importance.

Yes, I had read about that.

But then I asked myself about the swap priority beng -2 in particular this image (Devuan ascii ARM64) and thought that is was because there was another one somewhere.
ie: a swapfile somewhere in the SD Card, which I do not use save for reading the rootfs.

Then I concluded (as I mention above) that is was due to the use of an SD Card.

larsH wrote:

... choose the priority if you have more swap partitions (or swapfiles).

I have only one.

larsH wrote:

... the UUID is right ...

Yes, that's checked.

larsH wrote:

... change the priority of swap it is the swappiness of the system you should mess with (in /etc/sysctl.conf).

I recall having used that at some time with my workstation which has 8Gb RAM.

larsH wrote:

... wait until the system is otherwise behaving well.

Quite so ...
I need to get my VGA/HDMI adaptor (stuck somewhere in the mail delivery pipe) and set up the desktop/coffee roasting software.
That will be the test and then I'll be able to adjust swap accordingly.

larsH wrote:

Have a nice day

You too ...  =-)

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1453 Re: Installation » [Solved] Swap partition: swapon error and priority » 2020-05-12 13:16:57

Altoid

Hello:

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... recreate the "swap signature" ...

Unfortunately that didn't work and somewhere along the line the partition's UUID got changed.

The RPi is originally intended to be used with an SD Card, but I share the opinion that SD Cards were not really intended for the type of use an RPi gives it but for use in cameras and such devices large ie: files written once, read many times over and once moved, eventually deleted.

Hence a swap file/partition being set with a priority of -2.

But I have not seen this swap priority setting in any other Linux installs/images.
So I have to conclude that it is being set as the default value somewhere.

Which begs the question: where is it set?
Any ideas?

My guess is that it is in one of the init files (?), I'll have to look around.

In any case, I found a way to permanently set the swap priority here.

This is how:

1. check the swap partition/file exists:

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:         887604       36952      794780        1292       55872      835068
Swap:       3145724           0     3145724
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

2. check to see where it is mounted

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# blkid
--- snip ---
/dev/sda7: UUID="fd8f0765-c88e-43d1-8b8d-9b734fb6322a" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="d34db33f-07"
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

3. turn it off

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# swapoff /dev/sda7

4. check that it is off

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# swapon -s
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

5. make a backup copy of your /etc/fstab

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# cp -p /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

6. edit /etc/fstab and add pri=X in place of defaults, with X being the desired value and reboot.

7. check the result

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# swapon -s
Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
/dev/sda7                              	partition	3145724	0	1
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:         887604       37884      793036        1292       56684      834100
Swap:       3145724           0     3145724
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

I opted for a value of 1 but I'll have to check and see how it behaves once I finish my installation and get the coffee roasting software working.

Cheers,

A.

#1454 Re: ARM Builds » RPi3A+/3B/3B+/(4B) » 2020-05-09 11:54:44

Altoid

Hello:

tuxd3v wrote:

... it goes deep..
... $HOME/.config directory.

Quite so.

As a precautionary measure, I only used the appimage version but it also writes to $HOME/.config.
So, after using it I'd just exit the application and delete the config file it wrote.

I used it last night without any issue and this morning, for unknown reasons, the application would not start.
So I deleted everything etcher related from my system, downloaded the appimage version and tried again.

No dice.
It won't start.

I have not run any system updates/upgrades since the last time I used it, so I really don't think this could be due to some system glitch/incompatibility.

So I'm back to (and will stay with) the well known and trusty dd.

If there's anything I should look into, please advise.

Thanks in advance,

A.

#1455 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-08 10:42:11

Altoid

Hello:

tuxd3v wrote:

If you find a very low power harddrive ...

I came across a drive made an PATA model by Transcend.
Could be used with any old USB to 2.5" IDE adaptor.

The specs are these:

2.5" PATA SSD
TS32GPSD330
---
Capacities vary from 32Gb to 128Gb
---
DC +5V  0.3A      <-------- This

https://www.transcend-info.com/Embedded/Products/No-836

I don't know if their SATA SSD drives have the same power spec.

https://www.transcend-info.com/Search.aspx?q=sata+2.5

Cheers,

A.

#1456 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Raspberry Pi 3B+ and USB HDD shutdown » 2020-05-07 18:17:52

Altoid

Hello:

Camtaf wrote:

... use halt -p, that should close files & unmount before ...

Like I mentioned I use sudo shutdown -h now.
If I do sudo halt -p it will have (it has) the same effect I describe in my OP (as far as I know) as they are mostly the same.

ie: shutdown -h = shutdown --halt

Camtaf wrote:

... microSDHC card to boot from plus a HDD as / ...

Yes, that is exactly what I am doing.

... has the bootfs on a 2.0Gb SD card and the rest of the system on a 40Gb IDE HDD ...

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1457 Hardware & System Configuration » Raspberry Pi 3B+ and USB HDD shutdown » 2020-05-05 23:03:09

Altoid
Replies: 4

Hello:

I'm currently in the process of setting up the hardware for a Raspberry Pi 3B+ that has the bootfs on a 2.0Gb SD card and the rest of the system on a 40Gb IDE HDD on a USB2.0 controller.

Works just fine (for the moment and only on SSH) and won't know how my coffee roasting software will do till I receive a presently stuck-in-the-mail HDMI-VGA adaptor for the 15" LCD screen I will use.

The previous HDD I used went south after a short stint as a RPi HDD and I was wondering if the way the RPi shuts down had anything to do with it.
ie: when I do sudo shutdown -h now, I notice that power to the HDD is cut out within three maybe four seconds but the amber LED on the board keeps flashing for another five to seven seconds.

Now, I would not have noticed this sequence had it not been for the short high pitched screech/whine of the drive coming to a halt.

I used these drives quite a bit to make backups and move image files between MS systems (mostly W98, NT4,W2000) and don't recall (it was long ago) that drive whine on disconnect, but maybe I've just forgotten. (?)   

It won't much be of a problem if yet another resucitated HDD gives up the ghost but I'd hate that it were for something that could be avoided.
eg: spin down the drive before cutting off power to the USB port instead of directly cutting off power to the USB port?

I say this because I think the RPi was not designed to work with HDDs and I have the idea that the HDD is being handled like a SD card.

But then I don't think SD cards were designed for HDD duty but to be used in cameras and similar equipment where files are large and usually stay put to be read multiple times once generated, so it would seem that the RPi / SD card match is not a good one either.

Any ideas on how to do this?

Thanks in advance,

A.

#1458 Re: Installation » [Solved] Swap partition: swapon error and priority » 2020-05-05 12:23:34

Altoid

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

... the etc/fstab file for extra spaces.

Wrote the Devuan ascii *.img files to the SD card and another 40Gb HDD, then made the modifications mentioned in my OP.
You can see the instructions in a video here.

Changed the size of the swap partition, was a bit overboard.
Will try with 3.0Gb and see how it goes when I run the coffee roasting software as 1Gb RAM is rather tight.

groucho@devuan:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# <file system>  <mount point> <type> <options>              <dump><pass>

# bootfs
# was /dev/mmcblk0p1
UUID=EEA4-304A                             /boot    vfat  defaults          0  1

# root on HDD - was /dev/sda2
UUID=589c7999-62be-47ac-8847-32b62fd9fdc9  /        ext4  defaults,noatime  0  1

# /var/log on HDD - was /dev/sda5
UUID=80f008d9-7f6e-49d2-8df7-d370a02be5df  /var/log ext4  defaults,noatime  0  1

# /home on HDD - was /dev/sda6
UUID=58b362ef-c02d-45c0-8085-dc3996a7d947  /home    ext4  defaults,noatime  0  2

# /swap - was /dev/sda7
UUID=5535c86a-ff6f-46d2-a53b-bad0f38d23fc  none     swap  defaults          0  0

## blkid as of 20200505
# 2.0Gb SD card
# /dev/mmcblk0: PTUUID="ac806f8a" PTTYPE="dos"
# /dev/mmcblk0p1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="EEA4-304A" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="ac806f8a-01"
# /dev/mmcblk0p2: UUID="589c7999-62be-47ac-8847-32b62fd9fdc9" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="ac806f8a-02"
#
# 40Gb HDD 
# /dev/sda1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="EEA4-304A" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="d34db33f-01"
# /dev/sda2: UUID="589c7999-62be-47ac-8847-32b62fd9fdc9" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="d34db33f-02"
# /dev/sda5: LABEL="log" UUID="80f008d9-7f6e-49d2-8df7-d370a02be5df" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="d34db33f-05"
# /dev/sda6: LABEL="home" UUID="58b362ef-c02d-45c0-8085-dc3996a7d947" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="d34db33f-06"
# /dev/sda7: LABEL="swap" UUID="5535c86a-ff6f-46d2-a53b-bad0f38d23fc" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="d34db33f-07"
groucho@devuan:~$

I have found it to be a good idea to keep a (dated and commented) output of blkid in the /etc/fstab file.
Keeps everything on the same page when needing to edit or check it.

root@devuan:/home/groucho# findmnt --verify --verbose
/boot
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] UUID=EEA4-304A translated to /dev/sda1
   [ ] source /dev/sda1 exists
   [ ] FS type is vfat
/
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] VFS options: noatime
   [ ] UUID=589c7999-62be-47ac-8847-32b62fd9fdc9 translated to /dev/sda2
   [ ] source /dev/sda2 exists
   [ ] FS type is ext4
/var/log
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] VFS options: noatime
   [ ] UUID=80f008d9-7f6e-49d2-8df7-d370a02be5df translated to /dev/sda5
   [ ] source /dev/sda5 exists
   [ ] FS type is ext4
/home
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] VFS options: noatime
   [ ] UUID=58b362ef-c02d-45c0-8085-dc3996a7d947 translated to /dev/sda6
   [ ] source /dev/sda6 exists
   [ ] FS type is ext4
none
   [ ] UUID=5535c86a-ff6f-46d2-a53b-bad0f38d23fc translated to /dev/sda7
   [ ] source /dev/sda7 exists
   [ ] FS type is swap
Success, no errors or warnings detected
root@devuan:/home/groucho#

The warnings issued by findmnt --verify --verbose were permission related.
Must be run as root or without  the --verbose modifier.

Had nothing to do with update-initramfs -u.  8^7

root@devuan:/home/groucho# fdisk -l
--- snip ---
Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 1.9 GiB, 1990197248 bytes, 3887104 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xac806f8a

Device         Boot  Start     End Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/mmcblk0p1        2048  264191  262144  128M  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/mmcblk0p2      264192 3872767 3608576  1.7G 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sda: 37.3 GiB, 40060403712 bytes, 78242976 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd34db33f

Device     Boot    Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1           2048   264191   262144  128M  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2         264192 14942207 14678016    7G 83 Linux
/dev/sda3       14942208 78241791 63299584 30.2G  5 Extended
/dev/sda5       14944256 17041407  2097152    1G 83 Linux
/dev/sda6       17043456 71948287 54904832 26.2G 83 Linux
/dev/sda7       71950336 78241791  6291456    3G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
root@devuan:/home/groucho# 
root@devuan:/home/groucho# swapon -s
Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
/dev/sda7                              	partition	3145724	0	-2
root@devuan:/home/groucho# 
root@devuan:/home/groucho# swapon -a
root@devuan:/home/groucho#

As for the swapon -a parse error, it remains a mystery.
When confronted by something like that again, maybe the MS way is better.
ie: delete and rewrite the line.   8^°

Now to finish the install and do some housekeeping (host name, user, sudoers.d, etc.)
I have another doubt I must address but will do so in a different thread.

Thanks a lot to everyone who helped out with this.

Cheers,

A.

#1459 Re: Installation » [Solved] Swap partition: swapon error and priority » 2020-05-04 21:31:28

Altoid

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Sector 2048 is the optimal start point for a correctly-aligned drive.

Right ...

Then I'll only have to doble check (I had checked) the etc/fstab file for extra spaces.
I may finish setting up Devuan ascii on the other 40Gb HDD drive in a while, if not tomorrow.

Thanks for your input,

A.

#1460 Re: Installation » [Solved] Swap partition: swapon error and priority » 2020-05-04 18:43:50

Altoid

Hello:

xinomilo wrote:

this is line 9, you have a space after 'defaults', should be "defaults,noatime"

Quite so ...

Very sharp!  8^D

Can't look at it now as the drive is toast.
But I'll check that the next install is properly written (maybe tonight) and report back.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1461 Re: Installation » [Solved] Swap partition: swapon error and priority » 2020-05-04 17:49:28

Altoid

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... looks fine to me.

Looks fine to me also.
Compared it to my other /etc/fstab files and found no issue.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

findmnt --verify --verbose

Here it is:

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ findmnt --verify --verbose
findmnt: /etc/fstab: parse error at line 9 -- ignored
/boot
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] UUID=EEA4-304A translated to /dev/sda1
   [ ] source /dev/sda1 exists
   [W] cannot detect on-disk filesystem type
/home
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] VFS options: noatime
   [ ] UUID=d25be223-0f7a-4394-a555-636340a965b5 translated to /dev/sda5
   [ ] source /dev/sda5 exists
   [W] cannot detect on-disk filesystem type
/var/log
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] VFS options: noatime
   [ ] UUID=2a7f1d75-8347-465b-8452-4f1ca299405b translated to /dev/sda6
   [ ] source /dev/sda6 exists
   [W] cannot detect on-disk filesystem type
none
   [ ] UUID=1d1727d2-e296-48fb-a6cc-1207cfd6b7be translated to /dev/sda7
   [ ] source /dev/sda7 exists
   [W] cannot detect on-disk filesystem type

1 parse error, 0 errors, 4 warnings
groucho@rpidevuan:~$

Nice.  =-)
I'll write to my cheat-sheet.

1 parse error, 0 errors, 4 warnings --> all in /dev/sda.

I just now remembered something I had not done: update-initramfs -u.
Done.

Ran findmnt --verify --verbose again:

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# findmnt --verify --verbose
findmnt: /etc/fstab: parse error at line 9 -- ignored
/boot
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] UUID=EEA4-304A translated to /dev/sda1
   [ ] source /dev/sda1 exists
   [ ] FS type is vfat
/home
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] VFS options: noatime
   [ ] UUID=d25be223-0f7a-4394-a555-636340a965b5 translated to /dev/sda5
   [ ] source /dev/sda5 exists
   [ ] FS type is ext4
/var/log
   [ ] target exists
   [ ] VFS options: noatime
   [ ] UUID=2a7f1d75-8347-465b-8452-4f1ca299405b translated to /dev/sda6
   [ ] source /dev/sda6 exists
   [ ] FS type is ext4
none
   [ ] UUID=1d1727d2-e296-48fb-a6cc-1207cfd6b7be translated to /dev/sda7
   [ ] source /dev/sda7 exists
   [ ] FS type is swap

1 parse error, 0 errors, 0 warnings

The warnings are gone (must always remember update-initramfs -u)
But the parse error subsists.

Could this be related to the start of /dev/sda?
ie:

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# fdisk -l
--- snip ---
Device     Boot    Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1           2048   264191   262144  128M  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)               <------------ this 
/dev/sda2         264192  4458495  4194304    2G 83 Linux
/dev/sda3        4458496 78241791 73783296 35.2G  5 Extended
/dev/sda5        4460544 65658879 61198336 29.2G 83 Linux
/dev/sda6       65660928 67758079  2097152    1G 83 Linux
/dev/sda7       67760128 78241791 10481664    5G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... default value, swapon(8) claims the default is -1 but it's always -2 when I try to create a fresh swap partition.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... appear to have a swap partition ...

Yes I have.
For some reason I confused them, fixed.
But this will have to wait for a while.

My old HDD just gave up the ghost, shutting down/spinning up so often was probably too much for it's weary heads (ca. 2004).
It's chirping and won't spin up.  =^°

But I have another one in the drawer.
Will come back to the thread once I've set the RPi up again.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1462 Installation » [Solved] Swap partition: swapon error and priority » 2020-05-04 13:25:23

Altoid
Replies: 13

Hello:

I finally managed to install the Devuan ascii image on my RPi3B+ and boot it from an 40Gb HDD.

dd'd the image to a 2.0Gb SD card and a 40Gb USB2.0 HDD thus generating twin images. 
It boots from the bootfs on the 2.0Gb SD card with the rest of the system on the HDD.

I think I understand how it works, not too clear though.

As the images are identical, the second partition on the SD card has the same UUID as the second partiton on the HDD.
Editing the /etc/fstab file does the rest.

Once I checked it was working properly, I used gparted from my workstation to resize the root partition on the HDD to 2.0Gb and set up /home, /var/log and swap.

This is what fdisk -l and blkid show:

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# fdisk -l
--- snip ---
Device         Boot  Start     End Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/mmcblk0p1        2048  264191  262144  128M  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/mmcblk0p2      264192 3872767 3608576  1.7G 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sda: 37.3 GiB, 40060403712 bytes, 78242976 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xac806f8a

Device     Boot    Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1           2048   264191   262144  128M  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2         264192  4458495  4194304    2G 83 Linux
/dev/sda3        4458496 78241791 73783296 35.2G  5 Extended
/dev/sda5        4460544 65658879 61198336 29.2G 83 Linux
/dev/sda6       65660928 67758079  2097152    1G 83 Linux
/dev/sda7       67760128 78241791 10481664    5G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# blkid
/dev/mmcblk0p1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="EEA4-304A" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="d34db33f-01"
/dev/mmcblk0p2: UUID="589c7999-62be-47ac-8847-32b62fd9fdc9" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="d34db33f-02"
/dev/sda1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="EEA4-304A" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="ac806f8a-01"
/dev/sda2: LABEL="root" UUID="589c7999-62be-47ac-8847-32b62fd9fdc9" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="ac806f8a-02"
/dev/sda5: LABEL="home" UUID="d25be223-0f7a-4394-a555-636340a965b5" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="ac806f8a-05"
/dev/sda6: LABEL="log" UUID="2a7f1d75-8347-465b-8452-4f1ca299405b" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="ac806f8a-06"
/dev/sda7: LABEL="swap" UUID="1d1727d2-e296-48fb-a6cc-1207cfd6b7be" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="ac806f8a-07"
/dev/mmcblk0: PTUUID="d34db33f" PTTYPE="dos"

... and /etc/fstab:

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ cat /etc/fstab
## <file system>  <mount point> <type> <options>              <dump><pass>
##
## bootfs on SD Card
# was /dev/mmcblk0p1  /boot  vfat  defaults  0  1
UUID=EEA4-304A /boot vfat  defaults  0  1

## root on HDD /dev/sda2
UUID=589c7999-62be-47ac-8847-32b62fd9fdc9  /  ext4  defaults, noatime  0  1

## /home on HDD /dev/sda5
UUID=d25be223-0f7a-4394-a555-636340a965b5  /home  ext4  defaults,noatime  0  2

## /var/log on HDD /dev/sda6
UUID=2a7f1d75-8347-465b-8452-4f1ca299405b  /var/log  ext4  defaults,noatime  0  2

## /swap on HDD dev/sda7
UUID=1d1727d2-e296-48fb-a6cc-1207cfd6b7be  none  swap  defaults  0  0

When setting the swap partition, I got this:

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# swapon -a
swapon: /etc/fstab: parse error at line 9 -- ignored
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

But when I check it I get this:

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:         887604       33616      795512        1276       58476      838168
Swap:       5240828           0     5240828
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# swapon -s
Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
/dev/sda7                              	partition	5240828	0	-2
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

I used cat -v to parse the /etc/fstab file but I get no errors.

Line 9 is this one:

UUID=1d1727d2-e296-48fb-a6cc-1207cfd6b7be  none  swap  defaults  0  0

Q1:
Any idea as to what is wrong with line 9?

Q2:
Why does the swap file partition have priority -2?

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# cat /proc/swaps
Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
/dev/sda7                               partition	5240828	0	-2
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

I only have one swap file partition and I don't see the system mounting anything on the SD card:

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# mount
/dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,block_validity,delalloc,nojournal_checksum,norecovery,barrier,user_xattr,acl)
devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=438328k,nr_inodes=109582,mode=755)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=88764k,mode=755)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,relatime)
tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=1225680k)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
/dev/sda1 on /boot type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/sda5 on /home type ext4 (rw,noatime,data=ordered)
/dev/sda6 on /var/log type ext4 (rw,noatime,data=ordered)
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

I have the feeling that I am missing something.
Is this set somewhere else?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

A.

#1463 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » ssh terminals and how to differentiate between them » 2020-05-04 12:22:05

Altoid

Hello:

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... the following line in all your ~/.zshrc (or ~/.bashrc perhaps) 

function title() { echo -n "\033]0;$1\007"; }

and then use

$ title Bendigo

to change the terminal title.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Changing the prompt (PS1) is another option ...

Thanks to both. =-)
I'll have a look at how these wotk.

In the meanwhile I'll have to be extra carefull.

Cheers,

A.

#1464 Desktop and Multimedia » ssh terminals and how to differentiate between them » 2020-05-04 00:07:26

Altoid
Replies: 4

Hello:

Those who are more savvy than I am in command line work and SSL'ing into other installations probably have been through this.

I am slowly learning to use ssh, which I find quite entertaining but more than once I've 'almost' goofed up and done something in the local terminal instead of the other terminal I had open to a Raspberry Pi also running Devuan ascii.

Is there a way to eg: when I open a ssh connection, have the terminal automatically show something that would differentiate it from a local one.
eg: the title bar or font colours.

I've looked at the terminal configuration settings but found nothing.

Thanks in advance,

A.

#1465 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-03 16:56:46

Altoid

Hello:

FM81 wrote:

... not related to the power-supply-USB-problem; it was for seeing whats inside '/proc/config.gz' !

Yes, I know.

What I meant to say was that what I thought was an issue ie: usb-storage.ko not being present was not the problem as it was part of the kernel.
The problem actually being a power supply one.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1466 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-03 12:22:25

Altoid

Hello:

FM81 wrote:

... a

modprobe configs

...

No ...

Here it is:

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ sudo modprobe configs
groucho@rpidevuan:~$

But the issue has been solved.
Problem was a PS thing, long cable with voltage drop.

See my previous post.

Cheers,

A.

#1467 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-03 12:17:12

Altoid

Hello:

tuxd3v wrote:

The important thing is that ...

... it dawned on me that I was being obtuse.  =^ 7

After thinking about it a while longer I realised that I had missed an obvious test.

The charger I have seems to be well built, relabeled for local sale so I don't know who makes it.
It is not a switching PS, just 220V Chinese made design, good quality plastic and not at all shoddy like some I others have seen.

But like I mentioned, it is obviously made for the smartphone market.
And one thing that many of these chargers have in common is the rather long cable.

This one in particular has a ~1.00 meter cable hard wired from the charger to the mini USB plug.
On the charger's back, an additional three illuminated USB ports can be found.

Suspecting a voltage drop on the charger's cable I ran one last test.

Raspberry Pi
RPi plugged into charger's USB1  <----- using a different/shorter cable instead of the PS hard wired one.
Drive plugged into RPi's USB1
Power plugged into RPi's USB2
Result: works

So there it is ...
Not the RPi or the charger but the long cable causing a voltage drop.

Conclusion
The RPi on can run a HDD with a 700mA draw (using two USB ports) provided the charger is working properly.
I have not added anything else yet (keyboard, mouse, HDMI cable) but I still have two free USB ports on the charger.

This charger was evidently hindered by the long/small gauge cable.

I'll see if I can figure out how to take it apart without destroying the case to eliminate/shorten the long cable by 60% or replace it with a heavier gauge USB cable.

tuxd3v wrote:

An example ...

Yes, I have seen that disk start up can be 1.5 to 2.0 x the stated draw on the label.
Usually not advertised in the brochure unless expensive server stuff for IBM, Sun, Dell.

tuxd3v wrote:

The USB 2.0 Specification ...

Have a look at the link to the RPi power stats.
I've read that the RPi does not follow the power spec too closely if at all.

tuxd3v wrote:

... Global limitation of 600mA ...

The RPi3+ has a default 600mA global but can be used at 1200mA global with the proper setting in the /boot/config.txt file.

tuxd3v wrote:

... hard drive that is very very low power ...

The Kingston 120Gb SSD I have my workstation's system on draws 1.0A.

tuxd3v wrote:

... find a very low power harddrive ...

I once heard of a Western Digital HDD specially made for the RPi.
It had a USB3.0 port instead of the usual SATA but it seems to have been discontinued.

All the 2.5" SATA drives I have come across have a peak draw of 1.0A.

I'm set on using these Samsung HDD because they are just 40Gb and are just short of indestructible.
I used them for years to back up my office/maintenance files and as my storage needs grew, ended up in a drawer.
Now I can use them again as they are perfect for the use I'll give the RPi.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1468 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-03 02:52:53

Altoid

Hello again:

tuxd3v wrote:

... seems to be compiled in the kernel.
... couldn't check '/proc/config.gz' because its not present.

I see ...

tuxd3v wrote:

... disk is 2.5"?

Yes.

On your reply, I decided that it would be be a good idea to step back a bit and look at this from the hardware side.
So I ran some additional tests.

All tests are with machines running Devuan ascii 2.0
32-bit version on a netbook / 64-bit version on a WS and the RPi3B+

There are various testing stages:

Stage 1
Netbook
Drive plugged into USB1
Power plugged into USB2
Result: works as expected, properly detected and accesible.

Stage 2
Workstation
Drive plugged into USB1
Power plugged into USB2
Result: works as expected, properly detected and accesible.

Stage 3
Raspberry Pi
Drive plugged into USB1
Power plugged into USB2
Result: does not work

Stage 3-1
Raspberry Pi
Drive plugged into USB1
Power plugged into netbooks' USB1
Result: does not work

Stage 3-2
Raspberry Pi
Drive plugged into USB1
Power plugged into workstation's USB1
Result: does not work

Stage 3-3
Raspberry Pi
Drive plugged into USB1
Power plugged into PS USB charging port
Result: works   8^o!

Great, problem solved but ...
This drive draws ~700mA and probably uses a bit more to start up.

The USB ports in both the netbook and the workstation obviously provide enough power.
ie: Port USB1 + Port USB2 in each machine provide enough power for the drive

Now, if the drive does not work when using power from the workstation/netbook USB ports, it begs the question:

How much power are/voltage the RPi's USB ports providing then?
Obviously less than the 500mA that they should be.

The red light stays on, no indication of a power issue.

The RPi's power supply (says) it is rated at 5.0v 5100mA max, more than the usual 2500/3000mA.

By default, the RPi USB ports are rated at a max global of 600mA but a line in the /boot/config.txt file sets it to 1200mA max.

max_usb_current=1
tuxd3v wrote:

... could be the same problem I have ...

Don't know if it is the same but it is definitely (like you said) a power supply problem.

I think that the PS I have can probably manage the stated 5100mA but not at a stable 5.0V.
Which is why the drive won't spin.

I think it is a smartphone type charger and those are not necessarily made to put out rock stable 5.0v as they are used to charge 3.8 volt Li-ion/Li-iPo batteries.
I'll have to look for something else.

Thank you very much for you input, you have been most helpful.
Kudos, you had it right from the start.  ;^ )

Now I can see about installing the image in the SDD.

Cheers,

A.

#1469 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-02 22:56:10

Altoid

Hello tux:

tuxd3v wrote:

... experiment in the rpi3 with a flash pen drive ...

Let's see:

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ dmesg
[ 1562.439264] usb 1-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 5 using dwc_otg
[ 1562.647134] usb 1-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1665
[ 1562.647349] usb 1-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 1562.647541] usb 1-1.3: Product: DataTraveler 2.0
[ 1562.647665] usb 1-1.3: Manufacturer: Kingston
[ 1562.647782] usb 1-1.3: SerialNumber: 50E549C693551F61991E1D42
[ 1562.649518] usb-storage 1-1.3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[ 1562.653027] scsi host0: usb-storage 1-1.3:1.0
[ 1563.699699] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
[ 1563.701152] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[ 1563.703372] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 15151168 512-byte logical blocks: (7.76 GB/7.22 GiB)
[ 1563.705501] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[ 1563.705667] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
[ 1563.707595] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[ 1563.718191]  sda: sda1 sda2
[ 1563.726191] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk
groucho@rpidevuan:~$ 
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# sg_map -sd
/dev/sg0  /dev/sda
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#
tuxd3v wrote:

... just in case, to check if it works..

It does.

tuxd3v wrote:

... sort that out, maybe (if the config is present in the kernel)

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ zgrep -Ei "_USB_STORAGE|_BLK_DEV_SD" /proc/config.gz
gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory
groucho@rpidevuan:~$
tuxd3v wrote:

... need that module.

Quite so.

tuxd3v wrote:

... test with a usb pendrive

See above.

What to do now?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Cheers,

A.

#1470 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-02 20:15:34

Altoid

Hello:

tuxd3v wrote:

... suspect of a power supply problem.

I don't think so.
In my Devuan ascii workstation ...

groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.9.0-12-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.210-1 (2020-01-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$ 
groucho@devuan:~$ lsmod | grep -i usb
usb_storage            73728  2 uas
usbserial              49152  1 pl2303
usbhid                 53248  0
hid                   122880  2 hid_generic,usbhid
usbcore               253952  10 usbhid,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,usbserial,xhci_pci,uas,pl2303,xhci_hcd,ehci_pci
scsi_mod              225280  11 aic7xxx,sd_mod,usb_storage,scsi_transport_sas,mptscsih,libata,scsi_transport_spi,uas,sr_mod,sg,mptsas
usb_common             16384  1 usbcore
groucho@devuan:~$

... when I plug the drive in, I get this:

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg -C
groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg
[  497.160012] usb 4-6: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
[  497.313765] usb 4-6: New USB device found, idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0702
[  497.313769] usb 4-6: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=0
[  497.313772] usb 4-6: Product: TS0MHDENC
[  497.313775] usb 4-6: Manufacturer: Transcend
[  497.314304] usb-storage 4-6:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[  497.314372] usb-storage 4-6:1.0: Quirks match for vid 05e3 pid 0702: 520
[  497.314424] scsi host8: usb-storage 4-6:1.0
[  498.339040] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access     SAMSUNG  MP0402H          0811 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[  498.339464] sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
[  498.340280] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdf] 78242976 512-byte logical blocks: (40.1 GB/37.3 GiB)
[  498.341520] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdf] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
[  498.342771] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdf] Cache data unavailable
[  498.342776] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  498.355294]  sdf: sdf1
[  498.359398] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI disk
groucho@devuan:~$
tuxd3v wrote:

... when I attach a 2.5" disk, I see it ...

I see it as /dev/sg6:

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo sg_map -sd
/dev/sg0
/dev/sg1  /dev/sda
/dev/sg2  /dev/sdb
/dev/sg3  /dev/sdc
/dev/sg4  /dev/sdd
/dev/sg5  /dev/sde
/dev/sg6  /dev/sdf      <--- here it is
groucho@devuan:~$
tuxd3v wrote:

... also 'sg_scan -i' ...

I also see it there:

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo sg_scan -i
/dev/sg0: scsi1 channel=0 id=0 lun=0 [em]
    TSSTcorp  CDDVDW SH-222AB   SB00 [rmb=1 cmdq=0 pqual=0 pdev=0x5] 
/dev/sg1: scsi5 channel=0 id=0 lun=0 [em]
    ATA       KINGSTON SV300S3  BBF0 [rmb=0 cmdq=1 pqual=0 pdev=0x0] 
/dev/sg2: scsi7 channel=0 id=0 lun=0
    IBM-ESXS  VPBA073C3ETS11 N  A496 [rmb=0 cmdq=1 pqual=0 pdev=0x0] 
/dev/sg3: scsi7 channel=0 id=1 lun=0
    SEAGATE   ST3300555SS       T107 [rmb=0 cmdq=1 pqual=0 pdev=0x0] 
/dev/sg4: scsi7 channel=0 id=2 lun=0
    IBM-ESXS  GNA073C3ESTT0Z N  BH0D [rmb=0 cmdq=1 pqual=0 pdev=0x0] 
/dev/sg5: scsi7 channel=0 id=3 lun=0
    ATA       SEAGATE ST32500N  3AZQ [rmb=0 cmdq=1 pqual=0 pdev=0x0] 
/dev/sg6: scsi8 channel=0 id=0 lun=0 [em]
    SAMSUNG   MP0402H           0811 [rmb=0 cmdq=0 pqual=0 pdev=0x0]          <---- here it is
groucho@devuan:~$

So I think we can rule out any power supply related issues.

The Transcend TS0MHDENC controller (05e3 pid 0702: 520) has ID 05e3:0702 and uses the GL811E chip made by Genesys Logic, which is supported in the Debian kernel through the usb-storage module.

Si it would seem that the problem is that the needed module is not part of the image.
Is there a way to load it or a driver?

Thanks a lot for your input.
Cheers,

A.

#1471 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-02 12:24:45

Altoid

Hello:

tuxd3v wrote:

... insert the drives ...
... with the 5v ...
... what you get with 'dmesg' ?

I have to check again, see below.

tuxd3v wrote:

...  the module was not compiled ....

Yes, I think you're right.
Support was not compiled into the kernel.

tuxd3v wrote:

modinfo usb-storage

It confirms that usb-storage is not in the system:

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ sudo modinfo usb-stotage 
[sudo] password for groucho: 
modinfo: ERROR: Module usb-stotage not found.
groucho@rpidevuan:~$ find /lib/modules -name \*usb-storage\*.ko
groucho@rpidevuan:~$

This si a config for sub-storage, on kernel 5.4.x:
[

#
# NOTE: USB_STORAGE depends on SCSI but BLK_DEV_SD may
#
# also be needed; see USB_STORAGE Help for more info
#
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_REALTEK=m
CONFIG_REALTEK_AUTOPM=y
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DATAFAB=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_FREECOM=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_ISD200=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_USBAT=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR09=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR55=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_JUMPSHOT=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_ALAUDA=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_ONETOUCH=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_KARMA=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_CYPRESS_ATACB=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_ENE_UB6250=m
CONFIG_USB_UAS=m
tuxd3v wrote:

... the SCSI sg driver..

It is part of sg3_utils
Just installed it.

--- snip ---
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libsgutils2-2 sg3-utils
--- snip ---

Added it to /etc/modules and rebooted:

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ipv6                  516096  24
sg                     36864  0
brcmfmac              274432  0
brcmutil               16384  1 brcmfmac
sha256_generic         20480  0
cfg80211              741376  1 brcmfmac
rfkill                 32768  1 cfg80211
snd_bcm2835            40960  0
snd_pcm               126976  1 snd_bcm2835
snd_timer              36864  1 snd_pcm
snd                    90112  3 snd_timer,snd_bcm2835,snd_pcm
sdhci_iproc            16384  0
vchiq                 352256  1 snd_bcm2835
uio_pdrv_genirq        16384  0
uio                    24576  1 uio_pdrv_genirq
groucho@rpidevuan:~$

This is dmesg with the sg module loaded:

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ dmesg | grep -i "error\|warning\|fail\|segfault\|fatal"
[    0.812942] Error: Driver 'sdhost-bcm2835' is already registered, aborting...
[    2.421514] random: 3 urandom warning(s) missed due to ratelimiting
[    2.846463] platform regulatory.0: Direct firmware load for regulatory.db failed with error -2
[    2.852017] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
groucho@rpidevuan:~$
groucho@rpidevuan:~$ dmesg | grep -i usb
[    0.104319] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
[    0.104417] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
[    0.104568] usbcore: registered new device driver usb
[    0.303073] usbcore: registered new interface driver lan78xx
[    0.305142] usbcore: registered new interface driver smsc95xx
[    0.770854] dwc_otg 3f980000.usb: DWC OTG Controller
[    0.772811] dwc_otg 3f980000.usb: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[    0.774815] dwc_otg 3f980000.usb: irq 9, io mem 0x00000000
[    0.780952] usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
[    0.782967] usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    0.784977] usb usb1: Product: DWC OTG Controller
[    0.786941] usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 4.16.14-v8+ dwc_otg_hcd
[    0.788925] usb usb1: SerialNumber: 3f980000.usb
[    0.791621] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    0.796676] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[    0.823327] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[    0.825439] usbhid: USB HID core driver
[    1.203380] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using dwc_otg
[    1.394850] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0424, idProduct=2514
[    1.397220] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
[    1.400429] hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found
[    1.687369] usb 1-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using dwc_otg
[    1.777885] usb 1-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0424, idProduct=2514
[    1.780230] usb 1-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
[    1.783450] hub 1-1.1:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.663363] usb 1-1.1.1: new high-speed USB device number 4 using dwc_otg
[    2.754116] usb 1-1.1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0424, idProduct=7800
[    2.756640] usb 1-1.1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
[    2.971360] usbcore: registered new interface driver brcmfmac
groucho@rpidevuan:~$

No USB related errors and drive not detected/recognised.
ie: idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0702

Thanks in advance,

A.

#1472 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-05-01 18:23:25

Altoid

Hello:

tuxd3v wrote:

There are there arm64 devuan images for rpi3

Yes, I have installed the one I pointed out in my OP.

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ uname -a
Linux rpidevuan 4.16.14-v8+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 5 18:50:10 CEST 2018 aarch64 GNU/Linux
groucho@rpidevuan:~$

Till I get my cable/adaptor, I have managed to learn some SSH and am working on my RPi ascii from my Devuan ascii workstation.
Reminds me of my long gone DOS 5.0 days.

But ...
I need to have the usb-storage module loaded so as to be able to use my external usb drives with the RPi, but it seems that it's not part of the image.

groucho@rpidevuan:~$ lsmod | grep usb
groucho@rpidevuan:~$ 
groucho@rpidevuan:~$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
sg                     36864  0
ipv6                  516096  24
brcmfmac              274432  0
brcmutil               16384  1 brcmfmac
sha256_generic         20480  0
cfg80211              741376  1 brcmfmac
rfkill                 32768  1 cfg80211
snd_bcm2835            40960  0
snd_pcm               126976  1 snd_bcm2835
snd_timer              36864  1 snd_pcm
snd                    90112  3 snd_timer,snd_bcm2835,snd_pcm
sdhci_iproc            16384  0
vchiq                 352256  1 snd_bcm2835
uio_pdrv_genirq        16384  0
uio                    24576  1 uio_pdrv_genirq
groucho@rpidevuan:~$

And seems that it cannot/will not be installed.

root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# modprobe usb-storage
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# lsmod | grep usb
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
sg                     36864  0
ipv6                  516096  24
brcmfmac              274432  0
brcmutil               16384  1 brcmfmac
sha256_generic         20480  0
cfg80211              741376  1 brcmfmac
rfkill                 32768  1 cfg80211
snd_bcm2835            40960  0
snd_pcm               126976  1 snd_bcm2835
snd_timer              36864  1 snd_pcm
snd                    90112  3 snd_timer,snd_bcm2835,snd_pcm
sdhci_iproc            16384  0
vchiq                 352256  1 snd_bcm2835
uio_pdrv_genirq        16384  0
uio                    24576  1 uio_pdrv_genirq
root@rpidevuan:/home/groucho#

Is there a way around this problem?

Edit:
I have been running some tests.

1.
The drives draw 700mA and work perfectly well in both my workstation and netbook running Devuan ascii but only using the provided power cable.
ie: a second USB cable to give +5.00v through an ad hoc plug. I have two of them and both exhibit the same behaviour.
2.
The drives' controller chipset is identified by lsusb as ID 05e3:0702 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 IDE Adapter [GL811E], which is supported by the kernel using the usb-storage module. I guess it makes sense that they are not recognised as the needed module is not present. (?)
3.
My two other external HDDs (USB3.0) work without issue on the RPi3B+3 but the controllers use another chipset identified as ID 043e:70f5 LG Electronics USA, Inc. External HDD.
They are 500Gb USB3, not much sense to use them with my RPi.

Thanks in advance.

A.

#1473 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-04-28 21:09:51

Altoid

Hello:

HevyDevy wrote:

... alpine linux has ready images for raspi3 ...

While looking around for information regarding Alpine Linux, I came across this.

Alpine Raspberry PI

This is a system install of Alpine linux for Raspberry Pi 3B, 3B+ and 4 image ready to burn to an SD card via balenaEtcher
(there's no need to gunzip image).

The image automatically setup and configures:

    root user [pwd: raspberry]
    pi user [pwd: raspberry]
    ethernet
    wifi (edit wpa_supplicant.conf in the boot partition, on first boot it will be copied)
    bluetooth
    avahi
    swap
    openssh server
    root partition auto-expand on first boot

I'll give it a try as it seems to be quite straightforward.

Cheers,

A.

#1474 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-04-28 16:41:48

Altoid

Hello:

HevyDevy wrote:

... could not tell you differences in the images hosted ...

I see.

HevyDevy wrote:

... spend a some time educating yourself ...

Indeed ...

That's what I am doing with/in Devuan, where I arrived after a few years of going through a few of the mainline Linux distributions, both *.deb and *.rpm based.   
But I have to draw a line somewhere as I am not a software chap, more a hardware one.
Tech support helped me make a living when my degree in architecture would not.

Reasonably well educated (for what I needed) in *.bat files, I'm still struggling with understanding bash scripts and the language, so the idea of even attempting to tackle a sdk is remote.

HevyDevy wrote:

... images for raspi3 and instructions to create said images with a persistent installation.

Thanks for the heads up.
I'll have a look at them.

HevyDevy wrote:

... for systemd free ...
... alpine linux might trump devuan ...

Thanks, but I am set on staying with Devuan the same way I was set on staying with Debian till systemd reared its head.
I always say that it reminds me of the registry virus inside Windows OSs, with which I dealt for quite a long time.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

A.

#1475 Re: ARM Builds » ascii installer-ARM64 question » 2020-04-28 12:54:11

Altoid

Hello:

HevyDevy wrote:

... should have pointed the link to the correct sdk ...

No problem.
From what I have read, it's well over my head at the moment.

HevyDevy wrote:

... try the arm-sdk tommorow when i have some spare time up my sleeve.

Thanks.
No hurry.

The local postal service is usually quite lacking and the CV quarantine has only made things worse.
As a result, the whole of my RPi3B+ kit has been stuck for almost a week at the city's mail distribution centre.
All three packages.

HevyDevy wrote:

This will build you a image for use on a rpi3

That would be great.
Thanks a lot.

Q: Would this one be different than the one available here?

ie:

devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img.xz   06-Jun-2018 11:28   153M

If it is more or less the same, I would not want you to bother if that *.img works just as well. 

I have been reading some posts here regarding Devuan ascii on the RPi+B+ and it seems that (save the image files) there's no other option at the moment.
We'll just have to wait and see if there's interest in generating an installer.
In the meantime we have parazyd's great work uploading the RPi images.

All Devuan/RPi users owe him a big Thank You.

My RPi3B+ will be (almost) exclusively dedicated to running a 64-bit coffee roasting application (Artisan-Scope v2.12) for which 32-bit support was ended at v1.1.
My Asus 2Gb 1000HE (Atom N280) struggles with it and although the souce is available, it would not make sense to build a v2.12 32-bit as it would probably run much slower than v1.1.

Only maintenance, networking or WiFi printing, some basic image viewer + basic OpenBox would be installed so that all the RPi's remaining resources go to running the roasting software.

I'll most probably have to use the Raspbian downloaded from raspberripi.org, put up with systemd and see how to streamline it as much as possible till someone builds an ARM64 installer.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

A.

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