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Works. Requires the headers for the kernel and the make utilities build-essentials.
Good luck, rolfie
Devuan ASCII and Mate desktop with LightDM: I have found an annoying feature of the new Mate 1.16 vs Mate 1.8. Whenever I move a window around on the screen to position it, and the window hits the top panel, the window is blown up to full screen covering everything else.
What are the keywords to search for disabling this feature (for me its actually a bug)?
Thanks, rolfie
I had some problems directly past the installation. In the moment, the PC is working fine. No lockups.
rolfie
Hi Walter,
you have selected a very complex and granular setup. Is that really required? I have setup ASCII encrypted on a SSD (what is the difference to a hard disk?) with:
- efi as vfat
- boot 2048 Mbyte ext4
- system partition 64 GByte luks encrypted, LVM contained with two logical volumes for swap and /
- home on separate drive, luks encrypted
Is simple, no problems to be expected with one of the granular partitions to run full. Requires one password for the system and one for home. home on the separate drive was mounted past the installation.
You can naturally setup a LVM with 9 logical volumes and separately encrypt tmp, swap and home.
BTW: if you mount your hard disk containing your old home to /home on the SSD, the data on the mount point are no more accessible. You only will see the hard disk data there.
Regards, rolfie
Are you using a background image for your panel? Check by right-clicking on panel -> Properties -> Background. When I was using a background image, my panel was unstable and sometimes icons would disappear and/or panel would lock up on me. Choosing "None (use system theme)" for panel background made all my panel issues go away.
Thank you for the hint. Unfortunately, I have exactly your setting.
Regards, rolfie
I have done a fast install in VBox with slim. Now I remember why I kept lightdm. I do not like slim. I need to enter two topics manually, I miss options lightdm shows.
I will stick to lightdm.
Thanks, rolfie
Devuan ASCII with Mate 1.16 and Lightdm, manually installed from console.
Can't explain how I get it to happen, but quite often I have a locked up panel, symbols gone, no more reaction of the panel. Shutdown is only possible from the console. If no console is around, I need to use the reset button.
What can I do to improve this? Go away from Lightdm? I am used to this combination since Wheezy offered Mate from Backports.
Thanks, rolfie
An addition to this thread: on a fresh install an a different PC based on the ASCII RC CD, the systemd-backend was not installed, but the consolekit option did not work. I had to switch to the elogind option. Refer to: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2023
All with cli installed from CD, then installed xorg, lightdm and Mate desktop with apt.
Regards, rolfie
I am running a fresh installed ASCII with backports kernel 4.16 installed. What is your sources.list looking alike? Mine is clearly pointing to ascii. I get:
root@xxx:/# uname -a
Linux xxx 4.16.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.16.16-2~bpo9+1 (2018-06-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux
root@xxx:/# apt search linux-image-amd64
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linux-image-amd64/stable,stable-security,now 4.9+80+deb9u4 amd64 [installiert]
Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
linux-image-amd64-dbg/stable,stable-security 4.9+80+deb9u4 amd64
Debugging symbols for Linux amd64 configuration (meta-package)
root@xxx:/# cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux ascii"
NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux"
ID=devuan
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.devuan.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://devuan.org/os/community"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.devuan.org/"
Regards, rolfie
Well, the one reason for me to switch to Devuan is that I can use the same setup for decrypting luks devices as it was possible until Wheezy. I understand it, I can setup a script for each device individually, no issues. In terms of speed I do not see any advantage in systemd.
Regards, rolfie
I have used the default ASCII installer to install a LVM into an encrpyted volume, works fine. Was done with the RC version.
I have added an existing encrypted volume (/home on a different drive) after first boot.
Regards, rolfie
I have loaded the Stretch package directly from Oracle and installed it on ASCII. Works fine.
Regards, Rolf
Got my own fight ongoing with this issue: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2023
I just did a manual built graphical system based on ASCII RC in VBox. First installed xorg, the lightdm and finally mate. The console kit stuff was pulled by xorg already.
Regards, rolfie
For the time being I can live with what I have currently. Nevertheless I will try to find out what screws the consolekit settings.
rolfie
You may name the file the way you like. it has nothing to do with the function. I guess *.pkla is mandatory, the internal format too, the rest is to your disposition. I took your solution, split it up in two files called disable-suspend.pkla and disable-hibernate.pkla. Works fine. No more suspend/hibernate in the shutdown dialogue. Choose a name that makes some sense for you.
Good luck, rolfie
Sorry, guess I confused two settings: the pkla I used was for the lightdm panel, not for the entry in the system menu. It has no influence on the system menu. I got a specific problem with ASCII and the lighdm panel solved this way. Thanks for the hint to the wrong directory spec.
Nevertherless, a specific pkla file in the /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/ is most likely the right choice for attacking your problem. What I have learned from posts at askUbuntu.com, using this makes the configuration safe against updates of the general policies.
I would recommend to do a search in askUbuntu.com and maybe uniix.stackexchange.com, there are lots of threads about various ways how to modify settings for shutdown, reboot, hibernate and suspend.
Rolfie
To disable hibernate and shutdown, use the opposite setting as listed in my .pkla file. Got this from askUbuntu.com, you should be able to find a more detailled explantion there.
Rolfie
Hi Ron,
have a look at: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2023, I think it will give you some interesting insight.
Rolfie
Hi there,
checksums are normally available only for complete CD/DVD media. Have a look at: https://files.devuan.org/.
Cheers, rolfie
Also found a fix for the LightDM issue. I knew that I had created a special settings file when troubleshooting the same issue two months ago on my wife's PC. Just couldn't find neither the description nor the file I created.
A thorough search today revealed where I did hide a backup copy and a hint from where I got the tip: I found somebody using LightDM/Mate on askubuntu.com who wanted to disable these functions for all users. That article gave me the handle to do the opposite.
You add this file to /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/enable-shutdown-reboot.pkla
[Enable lightdm shutdown/reboot]
Identity=unix-user:*
Action=org.freedesktop.login1.reboot;org.freedesktop.login1.reboot-multiple-sessions;org.freedesktop.login1.power-off;org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple-sessions;
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=yes
ResultActive=yes
I deliberately did not enable Hibernate and Standby, I never use this.
Hope this helps also other readers.
Thanks, Rolfie
Well, pure LightDM and Mate worked fine with consolekit. Could start Synaptic from the menu, get USB sticks automounted and no access issues, shutdown from menu and the LightDM panel both worked. Have not yet figured out which package really screws the settings.
Anyhow, switched to elongind, and 75% of the problems seem to be gone by now: everything from Mate seems to work.
Open issue: the Shutdown, Reboot etc. options in the LightDM panel are greyed out. Hints what needs to be done?
Thanks, Rolfie
@catprints: thanks for the copy of the link. Helps me to recall the details.
Still I am stuck, though I learned something.
Did a fresh install of ASCII, just base system, no desktop, from DVD, root and home on separate devices and both encrypted.
Edited the sources.list to work from the internet. Update/upgrade.
Made the auto-decrypt work.
Installed xorg, lightdm and mate-extra. Added synaptic.
Reboot: all works as expected, got consolekit installed.
Started to add packages with apt install in blocks to build my usual working enviroment. After each block checked the installed policykit-files with dpkg -l, only got consoleklit stuff back.
When finished, rebooted => issues back again. No change in the policykit-files installed, still on consolekit.
In the moment I am stuck. No idea what may cause the issues. Suspect tools like gnome-system-tools.
Probably need more time to figure out what causes the problems.
Hints are welcome.
Thanks, rolfie
The linked post refers to a PC I setup about a month ago. This PC is used by my wife since two weeks and is working fine. There I used consolekit because it was known to be working (also used on my old Wheezy ....), and the modification did the job to allow shutdown, open USB devices, starts synaptic from menu and solved issues in the menu with root rights. This is why I stick to consolekit.
Looks my notes are shortend, maybe even wrong and following them screwed up the installation of the second PC. Got Mate back up again, but the issues remain. I checked and tried to compare the two installations, it looks like they are mostly identical, but e.g in the moment I can't even mount any USB stick, neither as root nor in Mate: permission denied.
I am stuck.
Thanks, rolfie
Installed an older PC with ASCII beta from DVD: first just to CLI, modified the sources to read everything from the internet, made the automatic decryption work, then installed Xorg, LightDM and Mate desktop. Ended up with the same permission problems as described in https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1952.
Looked into my notes und installed:
apt install libpolkit-backend-1-0-consolekit libpolkit-gobject-1-0-consolekit
Unfortunately installing these two packages remove most of the desktop again. How can I fix the issues?
The link in my post a month ago to Lurker is dead now:
Database message source pull failure (not found):
The specified message has been deleted.
I am sure I made a printout, but can't find the paper any more.
Thanks, rolfie
I wanna remove ImageMagick. Never used it, and it seems to be a source of security leaks when seeing the number of updates being spread.
apt remove imagemagick
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Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
cups-browsed cups-core-drivers cups-daemon cups-filters-core-drivers cups-ppdc cups-server-common libcupscgi1 libcupsmime1
libcupsppdc1 libfontembed1 libgutenprint2 liblouis-data liblouis12 liblouisutdml-bin liblouisutdml-data liblouisutdml7 libqpdf17
libyaml-0-2 qpdf ssl-cert
Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
cups cups-filters imagemagick printer-driver-gutenprint
0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 4 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
Nach dieser Operation werden 3.626 kB Plattenplatz freigegeben.
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I do not want to remove e.g. cups, how can I convice apt just to remove imagemagick, and to keep the dependencies?
Thanks, rolfie