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#101 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stale keyring files? » 2025-05-22 15:49:21
Hello:
As sometimes happens, we are veering away from the original topic. 8^°
... my vote goes to MATE.
The best (albeit not a DE) I ever came across was the one Philip Newborough set up in the original #! Waldorf.
Hands down: fast, light, nimble and absolute lack of useless bloat.
XFCE lost it, long ago.
Bloated, bugsy ...
I will not be taking it beyond the present version.
I recall seeing (at one time or another) a post (somewhere) making reference to a script than would put the #! OB WM on a basic Debian installation.
I vaguely remember that HoaS had something to do with it.
ie: the script or the reference, cannot recall.
Best,
A.
#102 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stale keyring files? » 2025-05-21 22:31:29
Hello:
... doesn't do squat ...
So I have discovered, thanks for the heads-up.
I had a start-up entry in xfce+Session and Startup+Application Autostart and unchecked it.
Ran through all my routines and they worked perfectly well, so I just uninstalled it.
Worst case, I'd have to re-install it.
... supposed to be securely storing the users passwords that you save when browsing ...
I would not be caught dead doing that. 8^°
... uninstalling the pkcs package ...
That I don't have.
The only gnome thing I have is the gnome-disk-utility which has given me no problems.
I have found it quite useful but it comes with a (built-in?) gnome-disk-utility notification plugin which I never set to startup.
You will find it in /usr/libxec/gsd-disk-utilty-notify.
That's that, so I'll mark this one solved.
Best,
A.
#103 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stale keyring files? » 2025-05-21 19:48:01
Hello:
I don't have ...
I deleted them all, no noticeable ill effects.
It would seem that they are a remnant / consquence of bad shutdowns, remaining cached because the system was unable to flush them.
See here.
But then, the next post has a bit that relates directly to gnome-keyring being the culprit:
gnome-keyring will create the control socket in ~/.cache/keyring-* when it cannot access the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR location. This happens every time on slackware, due to the pam stack configuration in the /etc/pam.d/system-auth file. Specifically the last line where "pam_gnome_keyring.so auto_start" is run (this step creates the control socket).
The problem is that here in system-auth, the gnome-keyring auto_start line is *always* called before pam_elogind.so, so it will never have the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR available and will always create a socket in ~/.cache instaed. This can then lead to stale files and whatnot as you see.
greenjeans says it is broken and this is probably (?) part of the damage.
I concurr with another poster's opinion in that thread ...
I'm allergic to residual and redundant cache and tmp files (IMHO they should be overwritten when new files are created or deleted after shutting down the program in question).
... but the solution posted does not apply to Devuan.
ie: there is no /etc/pam.d/system-auth file in my system
So maybe the solution is getting rid of gnome-keyring.
Q: how do I know if it actually being used?
Best,
A.
#104 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stale keyring files? » 2025-05-21 14:56:57
Hello:
... never seen anything in ~/.cache that couldn't be deleted.
That's what I think, but the fact that they are cached makes me doubt.
ie: why are they not cleared on reboot?
... zero keyring files in mine ...
... Bleachbit ...
... basically wipes everything out ...
Good to know.
... uninstalled the gnome-keyring ...
... badly broken ...
Why am I not surprised?
This is what I have installed in terms of 'keyrings':
$ apt list | grep installed | grep keyring
debian-archive-keyring/stable,stable,now 2023.3+deb12u2 all [installed]
devuan-keyring/stable,stable,now 2023.05.28 all [installed]
gnome-keyring/stable,now 42.1-1+b2 amd64 [installed]
python3-keyring/stable,stable,now 23.9.3-2 all [installed,automatic]
python3-keyrings.alt/stable,stable,now 4.2.0-1 all [installed,automatic]
$ Q: just how many keyrings do I need for my desktop?
Best,
A.
#105 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stale keyring files? » 2025-05-21 13:06:33
- Altoid
- Replies: 28
Hello:
This morning I came upon over 145 keyring-* sub-folders in my /home/user/.cache folder.
The contents of these folders fall into two categories: control and pkcs11.
What calls my attention is that they are quite dated:
2018 (1)
2019 (91)
2020 (12)
2021 (2)
2022 (1)
2023 (1)
2024 (29)
2025 (10)
As you can see, only 10 are from 2025.
I ssh into a NAS and the VM where my Pi-Hole / unbound set up runs and sometimes into my fibre router to check what evil the telco is up to.
Q1:
Why are they cached?
Q2:
Can these folders be directly deleted?
If not, how are they be cleared?
These are the backends I have in my system:
$ keyring --list-backends
keyring.backends.SecretService.Keyring (priority: 5)
keyring.backends.chainer.ChainerBackend (priority: 10)
keyrings.alt.file.PlaintextKeyring (priority: 0.5)
keyring.backends.fail.Keyring (priority: 0)
keyrings.alt.file.EncryptedKeyring (priority: 0.6)
$ Please advise.
Best,
A.
#106 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] zramswap script won't start » 2025-05-20 22:16:09
Hello:
... meant that the init script does not start ...
... enable it with update-rc.d.
Right ... 8^°
Sorry, my bad.
Yes, update-rc.d uses the INIT INFO fields and is mandatory when adding a script to /etc/init.d.
Best,
A.
#107 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] zramswap script won't start » 2025-05-20 21:21:34
Hello:
... not actually in Devuan repos ...
... not sure how to propose it.
... be enabled by you ...
No, not me. 8^D!
I'm just an interested observer.
That would be one of the admins (@golinux / @fsmithred / @Ralph.Ronnquist).
But I don't know what the process is / entails.
Best,
A.
#108 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] The 'snap' package in Devuan belongs to biology » 2025-05-20 12:01:56
Hello:
@Raulcla
@Kristof12
The site's search function is quite useful.
You may want to consider trying it out.
That said, have a look at these two threads:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2918
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2449
TL;DR
Devuan is a systemd-less distribution.
snapd requires systemd -> because of this, snapd is a banned package.
Hence the lack of snapd or anything snap related in the Devuan repository.
Best,
A.
#109 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » xfe i386 file manager » 2025-05-19 20:26:50
Hello:
... available because ...
... excalibur i386 live-isos and included xfe.
Good to know.
I have no hurry, the automount was needed for my U24 box but these days I can manage with a Ventoy *.iso, but it is a good addition to xfe.
Also have to carefully consider the convenience of upgrading the 1000HE to Daedalus / Excalibur.
Kernels suffer more and more bloat with each release
But the 1000HE's hardware is the same one as (quite obviously) nothing has changed since 2009.
Given the use it has, I'm not sure I see any advantage in upgrading.
... chance that the excal deb will install.
The one I'd want is 2.1 with the automount and all the bug fixes.
... probably have to get the upstream non-debianized source ...
I've written to the author asking what he has available.
I'll post back if/when I hear from him.
... package it or compile it ...
I thought as much. 8^°
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#110 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] zramswap script won't start » 2025-05-19 19:39:04
Hello:
... ported the zramen script from Void Linux ...
... comes with a working init script for Daedulus.
Thanks for doing that for the team Dev1.
Best,
A.
#111 Hardware & System Configuration » xfe i386 file manager » 2025-05-19 13:41:09
- Altoid
- Replies: 2
Hello:
Still working on my Asus 1000HE. 8^°
My netbook runs on Devuan Chimaera and the lightest file manager ever I found (besides mc) was xfe 1.43.1-1 i386.
Worked great and never looked back.
This morning I got a notification from the author about a request I made (back in ascii days) for an automount feature which has been incorporated to lhe latest version (2.1).
**[feature-requests:#237] Automount devices in Xfe**
**Status:** open
**Group:** v1.0_(example)
**Labels:** automount
**Created:** Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:48 PM UTC
**Last Updated:** Sun Mar 14, 2021 05:28 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobodyXfe now has an (optional, Linux only) automounter. You can configure it in Xfe / Edit / Preferences / Settings.
The thing is that I don't see any i386 version in the Devuan repositories but I can find version 2.0.1-2 in the Debian repositories (Trixie) so I expect that the latest version ie: xfe 2.1 i386 will eventually (?) be available there also.
There are also i386 versions available for Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm, all of them ideal for undepowered i386 hardware such as the 1000HE.
I doubt xfe2.0.1-2 i386 would install without issues in my Devuan Chimaera netbook.
Or maybe not ...
Q: Is there a way to get that done?
Best,
A.
#112 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] zramswap script won't start » 2025-05-19 01:15:51
Hello:
... my https://github.com/eylles/zram-service script ...
Yes, I saw it.
But this is for an undepowered (Intel Atom N280/2Gb) ca. 2009 netbook for which I need a simple/easy solution.
The zramctl command can set up all the parameters I need in a jiffy in case the default ones are not suitable or I want to experiment.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#113 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] zramswap script won't start » 2025-05-18 23:20:23
Hello.
... troubleshoot this further?
No need.
In true (and time proven) Linux fashion I found a way out.
ie: by doing it in a different manner.
For those interested, the whole explanation is here.
TL;DR
For whatever reason, it seems the problem of getting the/a zram script to start in /etc/init.d has been doing the rounds for a while.
I could not find out why.
The solution is to start zram, setting the parameters and the zramswap file directly from rc.local.
And Bob's your uncle.
To test, I just dropped in the lines posted but (just to be neat) I'll write up a short script as a replacement for that.
Best,
A.
#114 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] zramswap script won't start » 2025-05-18 15:57:46
- Altoid
- Replies: 9
Hello:
Still working on my Asus 1000HE. 8^°
I have set up zram / zramswap with this script which I found referenced here.
Just in case, I added both the shebang (#!/bin/sh) and the usual PATH= variable as I saw it was missing.
I then named it zramswap, copied it to /etc/init.d, made it executable and did update-rc.d zramswap defaults.
The problem I have is that it does not start at boot and I can't figure out why.
But I can start it from a terminal:
$ sudo zramswap start
Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1002.6 MiB (1051303936 bytes)
no label, UUID=05decff9-d90e-4db3-ae9d-a65484a3462c
$ $ sudo swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 12595196 0 1
/dev/zram0 partition 1026664 0 20
~$ $ cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 12595196 0 1
/dev/zram0 partition 1026664 0 20
$ $ sudo zramctl
NAME ALGORITHM DISKSIZE DATA COMPR TOTAL STREAMS MOUNTPOINT
/dev/zram0 lzo-rle 1002.6M 4K 74B 4K 2 [SWAP]
$ I can't get anything from running the script in a terminal either:
# /etc/init.d/zramswap start > /tmp/zramswap.log 2>&1
#
# cat /tmp/zramswap.log
# <- nothing to see here ...Just in case ...
#!/bin/sh
#!/usr/bin/env /lib/init/init-d-script
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: zramswap
# Required-Start: $syslog $time $remote_fs
# Required-Stop: $syslog $time $remote_fs
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: Linux zramswap setup
# Description: Debian init script for zramswap
### END INIT INFO
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
DAEMON=/usr/sbin/zramswap
PIDFILE=none
_is_active() {
$DAEMON status >/dev/null 2>&1
return $?
}
do_start_prepare() {
if _is_active; then
log_warning_msg "$NAME is already active"
exit 3
fi
}
do_start_cmd_override() {
$DAEMON start
}
do_stop_prepare() {
if ! _is_active; then
log_warning_msg "$NAME is not active"
exit 3
fi
}
do_stop_cmd_override() {
$DAEMON stop
}
do_status_override() {
$DAEMON status
}
do_restart_override() {
if _is_active; then
$DAEMON restart
else
$DAEMON start
fi
}How to troubleshoot this further?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
#115 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problem with Failed to execute login command - Daedalus » 2025-05-17 13:44:51
Hello:
... @Altoid is quoting and replying to his own posts ...
Yes.
Instead of editing the previous post, I posted again.
Makes more sense when you are following the thread.
Granted, I neglected to add Update at the beginning of the post the quote to myself.
Sorry about that ...
But I digress ...
Running apt clean or apt autoclean requires root or sudo.
Depending on how your system is configured.
# apt clean
# # apt autoclean
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
# Likewise, to run apt-get clean or apt-get autoclean also requires root or sudo.
# apt-get clean
#
# apt-get autoclean
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
# With respect to apt-cache ...
You are quite right: clean and autoclean are not valid options.
What has happened is most probably a typo on behalf of one of our (most active) admins: fsmithred.
Strange ...
I have been a member of Dev1 for eight years now and it is the first time I see such a thing.
No big deal, just this week I have made more than a half dozen typos myself.
Happens.
So, no.
My guess is that you are not losing it, whatever it may be.
I keep my own it in a small box under the kitchen sink so it does not get lost. 8^°
Hope that clears up things for you.
Best,
A.
#116 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problem with Failed to execute login command - Daedalus » 2025-05-17 09:13:40
Hello:
I use apt autoclean and apt autoremove along with apt install -f all the time.
Yes.
apt autoclean will remove obsolete packages but to clear the /var/cache/apt/archives and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial directories you have to use apt clean.
Just checked in my netbook's Chimaera system and I came across a dozen or so packages from over three years ago.
Makes sense.
They were there because I never use apt clean, just apt autoclean and apt autoremove.
Best,
A.
#117 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Which Trackball device? » 2025-05-17 02:07:42
Hello:
Which Trackball device do you use ...
I have been using a ERGO M575, I think also from Logitech.
It was the least expensive (wireless) one I could find locally.
It is quite evident that it is not made to last.
Not crazy about it, lint builds up inside the ball cavity, especially around the contact points.
But then I have seen that happen in every other one of these things I have used, I guess it is part of the deal.
One pet peeve I have is that the rubber pads that keep them from sliding on the desktop are (usually) absolute crap.
They are stuck on with some sort of rubber cement and eventually they will come off.
And to clean the thing thoroughly (under the buttons, around the wheel), you have to take it apart.
This means that (besides the necessary patience and care) the pads must come off to have access to the tiny screws.
Lose them (a pad and/or screw) and you are in a jam.
You may want to consider trying possible options out before purchasing one.
My only recommendation is to avoid any brand/model with rechargeable batteries.
Common AA's are available anytime / anywhere.
Best,
A.
#118 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Compressor lz4 not available » 2025-05-17 00:42:16
Hello:
Maybe having lz4 in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ...
Indeed ...
That would have done it.
Except that, for some reason, I decided to add an (obviously unneeded) underscore.
Hence it not working as expected.
What's lz_4 ?
Hmm ...
Direct consequence of not taking my 20:00 pill?
Or maybe taking it twice. 8^°
Now it works. 8^)
--- snip ---
[ 4.473334] zswap: loaded using pool lz4/z3fold
--- snip ---There's nothing like paying attention to what you are typing.
While you are typing it.
Thanks so much for you input.
Have a good week-end.
Best,
A.
#119 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problem with Failed to execute login command - Daedalus » 2025-05-16 22:18:37
... Bleachbit do the heavy lifting ...
My favourite was fslint but it's now long gone on account of python 2.7.x being deprecated.
Best,
A.
#120 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problem with Failed to execute login command - Daedalus » 2025-05-16 20:55:45
Hello:
... see my Edit: comment.
Yes, I saw it.
I use apt autoclean and apt autoremove along with apt install -f all the time.
But I have read that they do not take care of what has accumulated in /var/cache/apt/archives and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial.
Sorry, cannot find the link ... 8^°
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#121 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Compressor lz4 not available » 2025-05-16 20:36:39
- Altoid
- Replies: 2
Hello:
Wanting to get the last possible bit of ooompf from my Asus 1000HE, I installed zswap.
Chimaera+Openbox do a good job.
But the 2.0Gb RAM is rather limiting, especially when using my coffee roasting software.
The system is up to date and the kernel command line has all the needed bits:
zswap.enabled=1 zswap.compressor=lz4 zswap.max_pool_percent=40 zswap.zpool=z3fold.
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules also has the needed bits:
lz_4
lz4_compress
z3foldYet the dmesg printout reads:
--- snip ---
[ 4.495646] zswap: compressor lz4 not available, using default lzo
--- snip ---Interestingly enough, opening a terminal and doing modprobe lz4 will actually load it and it will show up with lsmod.
Maybe it is the order in which these are loaded?
I'd appreciate some input on this.
Best,
A.
#122 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problem with Failed to execute login command - Daedalus » 2025-05-16 16:31:27
Hello:
... run apt-cache autoclean to get rid of old deb packages
Was passing by, had a read and tried it.
Had never used it before.
# uname -a
Linux devuan 6.1.0-34-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.135-1 (2025-04-25) x86_64 GNU/Linux
# # apt-cache autoclean
E: Invalid operation autoclean
#
# apt-cache clean
E: Invalid operation clean
# System is up to date.
What am I missing?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
#123 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] USB with *.iso image not detected in BIOS boot netbook » 2025-05-15 13:00:27
Update:
... still have to contact Asus to ask about that.
After filling out an online form asking for the netbook's serial number and other data, I managed to get a reply from Asus.
I also sent them a photo of the barcoded label on the original packaging which clearly read:
---
Model: 1000HE
Customer number, P/N, Serial Number, EAN, UPC, Check Number.
EEEPC 1000HE, BLACK,XP,1g DDR2
INTEL ATOM280, 160G(D)/ZD,802.11B/G/N,BT
1.3M CAMERA,6CELL LI-ION,SLEEVE
---
So, after having inequivocally established what hardware I was referring to, I asked:
I am asking here because I have not been able to find this
information anywhere (manual, on-line, FAQ, etc.)Q: What is the highest capacity USB drive I can use when booting from
the F2/BBS Popup menu?
The reply started by saying that they queried the serial number and other data in their system but found no information.
ie: no information about what (at that point in time) was arguably Asus' most successful product ever.
If it is an ASUS Eee PC it is a long discontinued product.
If ...?
And then this:
Generally for hardware of that generation it would be a 8Gb USB drive with a Fat32 format, preferably done with Rufus.
This reply is based on my technical experience.
I am sorry but I cannot recognise the model with the S/N given.
No further comments needed.
Best,
A.
#124 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] USB with *.iso image not detected in BIOS boot netbook » 2025-05-14 12:27:19
Hello:
... same iso you linked to.
Works perfectly ...
Yes, it was the first thing I checked.
First SHA256 and then cmp (thanks to Ralph.R for that)
So no problem with the *.iso.
... USB 3 stick in an interface for USB 2 ...
Like I mentioned earlier on, the USB 3.x drive works perfectly well once the system is up.
So there's no issue with backwards compatibility.
ie: USB 2.0 / 3.x
That said, your nature always sides with the hidden flaw is a gem. 8^)
dd is not ...
... for everyone, agreed.
But if I do not practise I'll never learn to do it properly.
I will always regret not having stated with / studying command line DOS earlier.
We are heading towards the day when only those who can proficiently work with a terminal may have a chance ...
But I digress.
... not doing something magical ...
Of course it is not, I was using a metaphor of sorts.
What it does. thanks to very clever / creative coding is make a 64Gb (or more, cannot say) USB 3.x drive detectable by the BIOS of a netbook that would seem to have a limit* to that, I still have to contact Asus to ask about that.
* see link to the Ventoy page posted by rolfie.
Many years ago, Linux was the go-to OS if you had hardware that would struggle with newer versions of mainstream OSs like MS, etc.
Bloat, bling and all kinds of BS in Linux distributions has put a stop to that.
Now, you have to find a lightweight distribution, such as the ones you roll.
Like I mentioned previously , it would be a great thing to be able to dd a standard *.iso and have it do what Ventoy does.
ie: just that, overcome the BIOS USB size limit in older laptops / netbooks. Nothing else needed.
Unfortunately, I do not see that happening, ever.
The tide is clearly flowing in the opposite direction.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#125 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] USB with *.iso image not detected in BIOS boot netbook » 2025-05-13 21:42:22
Hello:
... stumbled across this topic ...
Yes, one of the hypothesis I shuffled about was a hardware limitation, USB 3.x, size or both.
Evidently limited to the BIOS as, once up, the system has no problems with the (64Gb USB 3.x) USB drive the BIOS does not detect.
But, as I noted in my last post, that same USB drive with a Ventoy system does not have any problems.
I wonder if *.iso files could not be made to do the same.
ie. dd the *.iso files and it will boot, no BIOS limit problems.
... solved it by using a 32G stick.
A quick workaround, for now.
Soon you will not be able to purchase small capacity USB drives.
The smallest I can find locally are 32Gb.
... in legacy mode this limitation comes into play.
Like the link you posted indicates, it depends on the BIOS.
My Sun MS Ultra 24 box can boot from the 64Gb drive with no issues.
Thank you for the link.
Best,
A.
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