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#101 Installation » SOLVED: Release file for updates is not valid yet » 2020-11-03 19:10:52

nobodyuknow
Replies: 3

I built a Devuan Beowulf Cinnamon system yesterday. Today I tried to update.

sudo apt update
Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease [33.2 kB]
Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease [25.6 kB]
Get:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates InRelease [26.0 kB]
Reading package lists... Done       
E: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beow … /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 3h 4min 44s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.

I've never seen this error message.

#102 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » SOLVED: Sound app non-operational and PulseAudio not running » 2020-10-28 19:10:45

The file in question specifically states "# If you are not using systemd, comment out this line." Since Devuan is, by definition, systemd-free, shouldn't the line in question be commented-out in the ISO?

Okay, I've learned my lesson. From now on, before installing Devuan, I will read the release notes.

Thanks for the reply.

#103 Hardware & System Configuration » SOLVED: Sound app non-operational and PulseAudio not running » 2020-10-27 22:31:19

nobodyuknow
Replies: 3

I tried to play some music on a recently built Beowulf Cinnamon system. No sound came from the headphones. The Sound application is broken, with Volume slider completely non-responsive, though I can move Balance, Fade, and Subwoofer sliders. The Test Sound button in the Sound app is also broken.

I checked PulseAudio:

pacmd list-sinks
No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.

I went to Startup Applications and saw that PulseAudio is set to start.

I have no trouble playing music on Linux Mint using the same hardware.

From looking at posts here, this appears to be a common issue.

#104 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-14 18:51:40

sudo apt reinstall --purge firefox-esr
E: Command line option --purge is not understood in combination with the other options

I also reinstalled firefox-esr via Synaptic, but nothing changed. And the Firefox support page to refresh does not work for esr. Oh well, I'll wipe the SSD using your new command and install Beowulf MATE or Cinnamon (I haven't decided). Thanks for your help.

#105 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-14 18:14:24

@Head_on_a_Stick

Thanks for the erase reference. I found the hdparm one a long time ago on Arch's wiki, I think.

Back to the original question. I thought I'd just uninstall firefox-esr and reinstall it, thinking that a fresh start might be the solution. But after entering "apt purge firefox-esr," I was informed that Chromium would be installed at the same time. I declined. Is there any way to uninstall/reinstall firefox-esr without adding something from the googlebeast?

#106 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-13 23:28:28

Stop the press. I installed the latest (20) Cinnamon Linux Mint on that Samsung SSD and everything went fine. So I thought the SSD was okay. However, I then tried to wipe that SSD via my usual technique -- "hdparm --security-set-pass somepassword /dev/sdX" and "hdparm --security-erase somepassword /dev/sdX" -- but instead of the usual completion, I saw "bad - missing sense," the error one sees when trying hdparm on a USB flash drive, something that's not supported. And then that SSD power-cycled a few times all by itself. So it's possible that the SSD -- it's got over six years of power-on -- is toast (though the enclosure could be the culprit too). That's what I get for buying a used SSD on that auction site. I'll try again with a different drive. My Internet access is intermittent, so it might be a few days before I post again.

#107 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-13 20:30:38

I downloaded Beowulf (devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-desktop.iso) and "burned" a USB flash drive with it using dd. I tried to install Beowulf on a wiped Samsung SSD, which has no bad sectors according to gnome-disk-utility, attached via USB. The installation went fine until I was asked to choose an init system. I chose the default systemV. As soon as I pressed Continue, the screen went all blue, except for the bottom black bar. A long time after that (many minutes), the Grub screen appeared. After pressing Continue, I was informed that the Grub installation had failed.

#108 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-13 20:21:48

~$ cat /etc/os_release
cat: /etc/os_release: No such file or directory

~$ apt policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 500 [url]http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] ascii-updates/non-free amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0.0,o=Devuan,a=oldstable-updates,n=ascii-updates,l=Devuan,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin us.deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] ascii-updates/main amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0.0,o=Devuan,a=oldstable-updates,n=ascii-updates,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
     origin us.deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] ascii-security/contrib amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0,o=Devuan,a=oldstable-security,n=ascii-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=contrib,b=amd64
     origin us.deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] ascii-security/non-free amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0,o=Devuan,a=oldstable-security,n=ascii-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin us.deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] ascii-security/main amd64 Packages
     release v=2.0,o=Devuan,a=oldstable-security,n=ascii-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=main,b=amd64
     origin us.deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] ascii/contrib amd64 Packages
     release v=2.1,o=Devuan,a=oldstable,n=ascii,l=Devuan,c=contrib,b=amd64
     origin us.deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] ascii/non-free amd64 Packages
     release v=2.1,o=Devuan,a=oldstable,n=ascii,l=Devuan,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin us.deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] ascii/main amd64 Packages
     release v=2.1,o=Devuan,a=oldstable,n=ascii,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
     origin us.deb.devuan.org
Pinned packages:

#109 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-10 18:20:57

@Head_on_a_Stick

Thanks for the reply. Safe mode does not fix the problem.

I installed from a 2.0 ISO, so I must be running ASCII. "apt policy" showed a bunch of v=2.0 and v=2.1 lines. Cinnamon is 3.2.7-4, as per Synaptic.

#110 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-10 18:16:55

@rolfie

Thanks for the reply. I did not know anyone had ported the metacity formats. I read many months ago in the Linux Mint forum that metacity would no longer be supported in Cinnamon. I had tried mate-themes (I assumed cinnamon-themes would be installed), but everything was gray (TraditionalOk had blue borders in the old metacity, but after metacity suport was dropped, they were gray). I will try that in my new system.

#111 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-10 18:10:06

@Marjorie

Thanks for the reply. In a few days, I will build a new system on a spare SSD using a 3.0 ISO. I'll use your themes and see what my old eyes think about it.

#112 Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Latest Firefox on 2.0 Cinnamon has resize problems » 2020-10-05 00:42:09

nobodyuknow
Replies: 15

I'm running Devuan 2.0 Cinnamon because the latest Cinnamon does not support most themes anymore (I'm not young, so dark themes hurt my eyes). After the latest update, Firefox has resize problems. What I mean by this is that the zoom value is 100% (I always add the -+ resizer to Firefox and spins thereof), but it looks like 120% or more. I am forced to reduce it to 80% -- per page. My other Linux systems do not have this problem, so I assume it's related to Devuan 2.0 (apt update and apt upgrade do not help; Firefox version is 78.3.0esr (64-bit) and uname is 4.9.0-13-amd64 GNU/Linux). Has my system reached the end of the line? Must I start again with 3.0 MATE or another desktop?

#113 Re: Installation » SOLVED:Beowulf MATE: visudo path, strange logoff, hideous login screen » 2020-09-17 19:14:16

@markw

Thanks for the detailed response. You saved me lots of time searching for files and looking through directories for appropriate files.

#114 Re: Installation » SOLVED:Beowulf MATE: visudo path, strange logoff, hideous login screen » 2020-09-16 18:45:36

Mea culpa. I never thought the behavior of su would change, but of course everything changes over time. I just read the release notes.

#115 Installation » SOLVED:Beowulf MATE: visudo path, strange logoff, hideous login screen » 2020-09-15 21:08:06

nobodyuknow
Replies: 8

I just built a Beowulf MATE system. I have a working 2.0 Cinnamon system to compare things.

The first thing I always need to do with Devuan, Debian and Fedora is to add myself to sudoers. No problem, I'll just su and execute visudo. But no, visudo is not found, probably a path problem. visudo should be in root's path, yes?

When I shutdown the system, instead of going directly to console messages, I see the login screen for a second. Is there a reason for this?

I know how to change the background after I login. However, I've never changed the background for the login screen. This one is a hideous red, a color one might find in a Nevada bordello. (Where have Devuan developers been meeting?) Where is that background stored so I can change it?

#116 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Thanks and old Cinnamon version » 2020-08-26 20:33:22

Thanks for the reply. I hoped that would be the answer.

#117 Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Thanks and old Cinnamon version » 2020-08-26 17:31:51

nobodyuknow
Replies: 2

First I want to say thanks to the Devuan community for creating a great Linux distribution. I keep a few distributions installed on SSDs in USB 3.0 external enclosures, but Devuan is the one I use most.

My question involves the version of Cinnamon. I installed from a 2.0 iso because I do not like what Linux Mint is doing with Cinnamon, specifically the dropping of support for metacity-theme-1.xml format. Even today, my Devuan Cinnamon system supports metacity-theme-1.xml format, so the version of Cinnamon is still relatively ancient, 3.2.7 according to "cinnamon --version". I do not want Cinnamon to be updated. Every now and then I execute "apt update" and "apt upgrade" in a terminal. Will Cinnamon always stay the old version I like?

#118 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Brisk menu (mate-applet-brisk-menu) is not available » 2020-03-09 23:56:12

I tend to use terminal apt commands when I know the name of the package and Synaptic when I'm guessing. I'm embarrassed that I never noticed the Reload button.

#119 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Brisk menu (mate-applet-brisk-menu) is not available » 2020-03-08 22:25:41

Thanks for the assistance.

@golinux I assumed that sources.list would be read by Synaptic. I was wrong.

@rolfie So that's the way to specify a repository when installing. And backports makes sense now in the context of packages existing in testing, but not stable.

#120 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Brisk menu (mate-applet-brisk-menu) is not available » 2020-03-07 20:26:51

Sorry, I misunderstood that.

I edited sources.list to the following:

#

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free contrib

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free contrib

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main non-free contrib

However, nothing changed. Did I get sources.list wrong?

#121 Re: Installation » SOLVED: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf different in Cinnamon versus MATE » 2020-03-07 20:15:06

First, thanks to everyone who responded. I had emergencies, so I left this for a while.

I installed lightdm and gtk-greeter. With the former, I was pleasantly surprised that I was prompted as to which display manager I wanted, slim or lightdm, though slim was advertised as a simple login manager. I rebooted because I wanted to see the behavior of the login screen. It was the familiar lightdm one. I tried to login, but it immediately returned me to the login screen. I looked at the desktop selector, which was set to default xsession. I selected MATE and everything was back to normal. Now lightdm is not magic to me.

#122 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Brisk menu (mate-applet-brisk-menu) is not available » 2020-03-07 18:38:43

Maybe it's an upgrade problem. I built a 2.0 system (because 2.1 does not offer my wireless drivers) and executed the following commands in a terminal

sudo apt clean
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
sudo apt dist-upgrade

but there were no upgrades to be had. Synaptic does not offer mate-applet-brisk-menu and "sudo apt install mate-applet-brisk-menu" is equally unsuccessful. Is there a better way to upgrade?

#123 Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Brisk menu (mate-applet-brisk-menu) is not available » 2020-03-06 17:58:34

nobodyuknow
Replies: 10

For MATE, the Brisk menu from Ubuntu MATE is the best, in my opinion. It is not available via Synaptic. I could obtain the Ubuntu deb-file from

and then perhaps (!) install mate-applet-brisk-menu_0.6.0-1_amd64.deb, but that might cause trouble when Devuan adds it the official way. Is Brisk menu going to be added to Devuan packages any time soon?

#124 Re: Other Issues » SOLVED: dd to nonexistent device » 2020-03-02 21:24:54

Yup, that mknod command did the trick. Much easier than a reinstall. Thanks to fmithred and Camtaf for their assistance. Usually my questions are not something someone would find useful, but this one just might be.

#125 Re: Other Issues » SOLVED: dd to nonexistent device » 2020-03-02 21:04:34

@fsmithred

I reboot once per day at a minimum. I often reboot a few times each day because I switch back-and-forth between different Linux distributions and Windows 10.

@Camtaf

The mknod man page is pretty sparse. One webpage suggested to determine major and minor numbers by looking at /usr/src/linux, but that directory does not exist. I found a webpage from kernel.org (https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke … evices.txt) which appears to be the bible for device numbers. According to that, my command should be "mknod /dev/sdc b 8 32." I rolled the dice and it appeared to complete a dd. I'll post again later after I test it to see if it was a success.

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