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#1076 Re: Other Issues » Devuan and privacy » 2020-06-14 08:58:27

Devuan is Debian minus systemd. The "system" will not call home except for if you configure it accordingly, e.g. for auto-update. Debian/Devuan is not like Windows 10.

Applications will call home. Firefox will call home to check for updates if configured this way, it will approach Amazon server for DNS lookup, Libreoffice the same .......

Inform yourself about privacy in browers, they are the big hole.

rolfie

#1077 Re: Other Issues » [stable] apt-get fails to update i386 » 2020-06-14 08:49:54

The link you are listing is a different topic.

In your sources you have referenced Stable which is Beowulf since June 4th or so.

The clear recommendation is only to use distro names: https://devuan.org/os/packages

Would suggest to you to only specify Beowulf and to try again. Disable all foreign repos.

rolfie

#1078 Re: Installation » Beowulf on Lenovo X200s - several minor regressions compared to buster » 2020-06-12 18:49:09

kuleszdl wrote:

- LUKS password entry is not visible during bootup, the password has to be entered "blind" (I suspect KMS initialization of display and asking for password are in wrong order?)
- the system takes a long time to shutdown (fixed by replacing the script cryptsetup-functions from this thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2690&p=2)

To the second problem first: that fix is required since the patch did not make it into the repository in time. Its fixed with Chimaera.

To the first topic: what exactly do you mean by "LUKS password entry is not visible"? Please explain.

I have got Beowulf/openrc working luks encrypted with LVM, separate /boot, in EFI mode with grub. The luks password is requested after the kernel is loaded and the LVM is detected not to be present. The password entered then isn't displayed. I got no problems, and I did not have to modify any settings.

rolfie

#1080 Re: Installation » path on installation » 2020-06-10 08:01:52

Please refer to the "Changes in su"  in the release notes: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf … _notes.txt

rolfie

#1081 Re: Installation » ASCII repositories » 2020-06-08 19:34:21

Which packages? What do you miss? Can you be specific please? Maybe I misunderstood your question? I was aiming at updates ...

My main workstation still is on ASCII, and I do not miss anything...

rolfie

#1083 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2020-06-07 16:37:46

Outlook to Chimaera: there the issue is fixed.

rolfie

#1084 Re: Forum Feedback » Why Fie? » 2020-06-07 13:11:30

@ralph.ronquist: thanks for intervening. I am a few years older even than the OP....

@OP: Yes, a GUI installer could be a bit more comfortable in some areas. ASCII as the previous release had one, and Debian also has it. But you need to understand that Devuan is run with a very small team of developers, and its simply lack of resource that the GUI was dropped for Beowulf. And I can support the decision to drop the GUI installer, its more important to get the release rolling.

The firmware issues are also due to Debian/Devuan philosophy. A lot of firmware is propriatry stuff in non-free, you have to enable it. You will need to get acustomed to that speciality.

rolfie

#1085 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » AMDGPU-PRO 20.10 on Devuan Beowulf with an AMD RX5600 » 2020-06-07 12:46:26

Making a NAVI based GPU work under Beowulf without the PRO driver

The latest AMD GPUs like an RX5300, RX5500, RX5600 or RX5700 require a kernel >= 5.4 and latest firmware to support NAVI10 re. NAVI14 chipsets. Suitable kernels are available in backports. The latest firmware available in the Debian/Devuan repos across all suites is dated 2019-07-17 which is too old. Special action is required.

Install Beowulf at least to command line level. Myself had the privilegue to have an older AMD GPU around which I used to install a full graphical desktop, in my case Lightdm/Mate.

All commands need to be run as root.

To be able to install a new kernel add this line to your sources.list:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main contrib non-free

Then run

# apt update
# apt list linux-image-5.*

or

# apt list linux-image-5.5*

Currently you may find 5.4.0-0.bpo.2, 5.4.0-0.bpo.3, 5.4.0-0.bpo.4 and 5.5.0-0.bpo.2 kernels in backports. This may change over time. Install:

# apt install linux-image-5.5.0-0.bpo.2-amd64

Get the latest firmware from the linux kernel pages on github and copy it to the right place:

# apt install git
# cd /tmp
# git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git
# cd linux-firmware/
# cp -va amdgpu/ /lib/firmware/

This update of the initramfs is very important.

# update-initramfs -u
# reboot

Enjoy your new graphics.

rolfie

#1086 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » AMDGPU-PRO 20.10 on Devuan Beowulf with an AMD RX5600 » 2020-06-06 12:08:21

@fsmithred: I am sorry, looks like I need to explain where I am coming from.

You posted a thread about support for a RX5600 with the PRO driver package. HOAS answered that there is a way without this driver. I just wanted to confirm that I managed to get a RX5500 working without this driver which uses a chipset out of the same family. Navi10 and Navi14 should behave similar. Both threads linked naturally show all the detours, dead ends and uturns taken.

If desirable I could try to condense that to what is really required (as far as I remember. Slowly getting old...).

rolfie

#1087 Re: Installation » ASCII repositories » 2020-06-05 17:02:07

Only if you have specified stable in your sources.list. I can confirm that there is little movement on ASCII.

Here is some lecture: https://devuan.org/os/packages

rolfie

#1088 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2020-06-05 06:38:26

Yes, I can confirm it still works and is required for new installs.

rolfie

#1089 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-04 19:01:59

Have you ever used all 4 Debian DVDs for an offline install? I never have needed anything else but the "desktop" DVD.

rolfie

#1090 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-04 17:52:15

@bimon: simply use the Download link on the top of the forum page and look at what you find there. Is this what you desire?

rolfie

#1091 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » AMDGPU-PRO 20.10 on Devuan Beowulf with an AMD RX5600 » 2020-06-04 17:36:41

@fsmithred: have a look at these two threads:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3461 and https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3358.

Got an AMD RX5500 working with Beowulf/EFI/Mate/5.5 kernel from backports. I used the way to load the firmware as described in the linked bugreport, and an update-initramsfs past that, and it worked.

Try it with your RX5600, rolfie

#1092 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-03 20:41:29

Well done! Thank you all for your work.

rolfie

#1093 Re: News & Announcements » Updating Sources to Beowulf stable » 2020-06-01 21:16:29

Yes, on apt update that works fine. I rarely use Synaptic. cli is fine for me.

rolfie

#1094 Re: News & Announcements » Updating Sources to Beowulf stable » 2020-06-01 20:47:31

Don't care if you have explicitely stated Beowulf and not stable in your sources.list. The message comes once, and then its fine.

rolfie

#1096 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-06-01 10:04:50

Maybe you mix up 4.9 and 4.19? linux-image-4.19.0-9-amd64 is the latest Beowulf/Buster kernel, any 4.9-kernel is ASCII/Stretch. The 4.19er should start automatically.

For very new hardware, it may be an useful option to add backports to the sources.list and to install the 5.5 kernel from there.

rolfie

#1097 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-23 21:13:57

Look at the Release Notes. You got the following issue:

libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 <> elogind re. libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0

Let your old VBox go, and re-install the latest version from Oracle directly.

rolfie

#1098 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-05-23 15:40:33

Some input to UEFI/CSM. The OP obviously has a brandnew toy, so we can assume the BIOS is fully UEFI compliant.

CSM = traditional BIOS support can be enabled, then the boot disk should be MSDOS partitioned. When you boot the CD don't use the entry that says UEFI before the drives name.

Though I would recommend to use UEFI. Set the drive settings to UEFI driver first or similar, and disable CSM. Secure Boot to Other OS. The boot drive needs to be GPT partitioned. Boot the install CD with the UEFI label before the drives name.

If these dependencies are observed, it should be possible to easily install Beowulf, may be at first with a wired LAN connection to avoid any issues with wifi.

rolfie

#1099 Re: Installation » [Closed] Problems with Beowulf as second OS on a SSD » 2020-05-22 19:05:16

Late feedback: Beowulf (fresh install from beta3 Desktop DVD) works fine on X570/Ryzen 7 3700X/RS5500XT/backports kernel 5.5 when you know how to get the Navi14 firmware to work:

This link give the requried input: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =952710#10
I have learned that the bios 1407 supplied by ASUS insists on telling a PCIe3 GPA as non-efi compatible and switches on CSM. That causes some glitches during the installation. I am still fighting with the hotline, waiting for a fix. The 5500 runs fine without CSM now.

rolfie

Edith: corrected link URL

#1100 Re: Installation » [Solved at last] Issues with very new hardware » 2020-05-22 19:00:19

Late feedback: Beowulf works fine on X570/Ryzen 7 3700X/RS5500XT/backports kernel 5.5 when you know how to get the Navi14 firmware to work:

This link give the requried input: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =952710#10

rolfie

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