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#76 Re: Installation » Sources List all Non-Free ? » 2018-11-09 17:16:00

@ fsmithred : Thanks for that, I get it now.

#77 Re: Installation » Sources List all Non-Free ? » 2018-11-09 10:22:46

arnaiz wrote:

- not free: these are redistributable packages but not free according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG).
- contrib: is free software compatible with the DFSG, but depends on some packages that are not free.
- main: it is the standard repository of devuan and all the software included here includes free software according with the DFSG.

Thanks for that, I now understand the definitions.  But with that, and with searching other threads, I still have a simple practical question : is the stuff in the "main" repositories included as a subset in the "non-free" repositories, or does the "non-free" repository contain only "non-free" stuff?

Or putting it another way, if I want free and non-free stuff, should I have both "main" and "non-free" repositories in my sources.list or is just "non-free" enough?

Or putting it third way, does the line :-

deb http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib

....  refer to three different repositories ("main" "non-free" and "contrib") that are all included by that statement? Or is it refering to a single block of stuff that contains it all, and there is a separate block, invoked by :-

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii          main

.... that contains free stuff and only free stuff?

Sorry, I was not intending to start an ideological discussion here :-S

#78 Re: Devuan » Devuan ASCII reviewed on DistroWatch Weekly » 2018-11-07 17:15:54

I have just installed ASCII and I don't recognise some of the reviewer's complaints. 

I chose the expert non-graphical install from DVD, and it went smoothly except it said I had an EFI motherboard and I should put GRUB on a USB stick. However I don't have an EFI motherboard so I ignored it, with no repercussions.

I used Debian before I used Devuan, and it seemed to me that the installation procedures were practically identical : has this guy never installed Debian?  I once did a net install of Debian and it did take hours (literally, waiting for packages to be downloaded) and would never try that again, Debian or Devuan.

He was installing on a VM, so he had graphics problems.  I have rarely managed to install anything on a VM without graphics problems and I usually just give up and have to accept a shrunken a 800x600 (or whatever) subscreen.

I was not asked to set up partitions manually; the option was only offered (and I took it). It also offered to make partition decisions itself, even in this "custom" installation - I don't know what it would do with that option.

He seemed to find the account set-up stage confusing.  I was simply asked to set up a root account and then a user account. I never like the sudo method of doing admin (AFAIR Ubuntu insists on it). I find when I need to do admin tasks that I am doing them for a little while, so I don't want to have to keep adding "sudo" in front of every command.

#79 Installation » Sources List all Non-Free ? » 2018-11-07 16:32:38

Duke Nukem
Replies: 27

Hi, I've been using Devuan since the first beta, but only just joined the forum on occasion of installing ASCII.

Looking at the repositories in my sources.list as installed by default, they are all suffixed with "non-free contrib", which is not like in the list on the Download Page here: https://devuan.org/get-devuan.  I don't care much if it is free or non-free, but am I missing something? Should I add the repository addresses without the suffixes (or just remove the suffixes)? What does "contrib" mean? I cannot remember what was in the sources.list in my previous installations. Thanks for any help.

PS : I have just found a previous thread from which I gather that it was a choice I made during installation to allow non-free stuff.  But my question is, does the non-free depository contain the free stuff as a subset, or should I nominate both the free and the non-free repositories in my sources.list?

Here is my sources.list :-

deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1]/ ascii main non-free

deb http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib
deb-src http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib

deb http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free contrib
deb-src http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free contrib

deb http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free contrib
deb-src http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free contrib

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