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#876 Re: Installation » How many keyrings? » 2022-09-26 13:49:11

Hello:

MLEvD wrote:

Logging in automatically to desktop ...

No, not for me.

MLEvD wrote:

... asks for login password when launching google-chrome.

Don't use that one, at least for the time being.

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#877 Re: Installation » How many keyrings? » 2022-09-26 12:41:20

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

I'll post back if I get another message or in a fortnight, whatever comes first.

BiT is apparently working properly and cron has not sent me any mails.
But to check, I ran it manually and this is what I got:

user@devuan:~$ backintime backup
Gkr-Message: 08:42:53.971: secret service operation failed: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files

Back In Time
Version: 1.1.24

Back In Time comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `backintime --license' for details.

INFO: Lock
WARNING: Inhibit Suspend failed.
WARNING: import keyring failed
INFO: Take a new snapshot. Profile: 1 Main profile
INFO: [qt4systrayicon] begin loop
INFO: Call rsync to take the snapshot
INFO: Save config file
INFO: Create info file
INFO: Remove backups older than: 20220117-000000
INFO: Keep min free disk space: 40960 MiB
INFO: Keep min 5% free inodes
INFO: Unlock
user@devuan:~$ INFO: [qt4systrayicon] end loop

The terminal output shows the import keyring failed warning is still there.
ie: whether gnome-keyring is installed or not, so it does not seem to be the what causes the BiT problem.

Then I tried checking the keyring:

user@devuan:~$ keyring get system username
Gkr-Message: 09:17:24.950: secret service operation failed: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 175, in activate_name_owner
    return self.get_name_owner(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 361, in get_name_owner
    's', (bus_name,), **keywords)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 651, in call_blocking
    message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.secrets': no such name

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/secretstorage/util.py", line 55, in bus_get_object
    return bus.get_object(name, object_path, introspect=False)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 241, in get_object
    follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 248, in __init__
    self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 180, in activate_name_owner
    self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 278, in start_service_by_name
    'su', (bus_name, flags)))
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 651, in call_blocking
    message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/keyring/backends/SecretService.py", line 35, in priority
    list(secretstorage.get_all_collections(bus))
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/secretstorage/collection.py", line 144, in get_all_collections
    service_obj = bus_get_object(bus, SS_PATH)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/secretstorage/util.py", line 59, in bus_get_object
    raise SecretServiceNotAvailableException(e.get_dbus_message())
secretstorage.exceptions.SecretServiceNotAvailableException: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/keyring", line 11, in <module>
    load_entry_point('keyring==17.1.1', 'console_scripts', 'keyring')()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 489, in load_entry_point
    return get_distribution(dist).load_entry_point(group, name)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2793, in load_entry_point
    return ep.load()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2411, in load
    return self.resolve()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2417, in resolve
    module = __import__(self.module_name, fromlist=['__name__'], level=0)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/keyring/__init__.py", line 3, in <module>
    from .core import (
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/keyring/core.py", line 189, in <module>
    init_backend()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/keyring/core.py", line 97, in init_backend
    or load_config()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/keyring/core.py", line 176, in load_config
    return load_keyring(keyring_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/keyring/core.py", line 137, in load_keyring
    class_.priority
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/keyring/util/properties.py", line 26, in __get__
    return self.fget.__get__(None, owner)()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/keyring/backends/SecretService.py", line 38, in priority
    "Unable to initialize SecretService: %s" % e)
RuntimeError: Unable to initialize SecretService: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files
user@devuan:~$ 

What the ...
Not expected.

But if I check as root I get this:

[root@devuan ~]# keyring get system username
[root@devuan ~]# 

It seems the keyring has some sort of issue with my user or vice-versa.
But not with root.

Looking up the first error ie: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner here just gets me a rather obvious answer:

freedesktop.org/sd-bus-errors wrote:

Description

In addition to the error names user programs define, D-Bus knows a number of generic, standardized error names that are listed below.

In addition to this list, in sd-bus, the special error namespace "System.Error." is used to map arbitrary Linux system errors (as defined by errno(3)) to D-Bus errors and back. For example, the error EUCLEAN is mapped to "System.Error.EUCLEAN" and back.

--- snip ---
SD_BUS_ERROR_NAME_HAS_NO_OWNER
    The specified bus service name currently has no owner.
--- snip ---

That this does not happen as root makes sense as root owns the rig/OS and everything that goes on in it.

Is this a permissions issue for my user?
Is it a phython script problem?

eg: File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 175, in activate_name_owner

Any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

#878 Re: Installation » How many keyrings? » 2022-09-25 21:59:12

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

... look into that some more.

I have thought about it and have not found reason (save the pcmanfm recomends) for having gnome-keyring installed.
Same for gvfs-backends for that matter.

ie: my basic reasoning is that they are not dependencies, just pcmanfm recommends.
And I have seen that recommends can sometimes be silently problematic.

On a hunch, I wondered if this problem isn't being caused by having too many ***-keyring instances?

user@devuan:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep keyring
--- snip ---
debian-archive-keyring/oldstable,oldstable,now 2019.1+deb10u1 all [installed]
devuan-keyring/oldstable,oldstable,now 2022.09.04 all [installed]
gir1.2-gnomekeyring-1.0/now 3.12.0-1+b2 amd64 [installed,local]
libgnome-keyring-common/now 3.12.0-1 all [installed,local]
libgnome-keyring0/now 3.12.0-1+b2 amd64 [installed,local]
python-keyring/oldstable,oldstable,now 17.1.1-1 all [installed,automatic]
python-keyrings.alt/oldstable,oldstable,now 3.1.1-1 all [installed,automatic]
python3-keyring/oldstable,oldstable,now 17.1.1-1 all [installed,automatic]
python3-keyrings.alt/oldstable,oldstable,now 3.1.1-1 all [installed,automatic]
user@devuan:~$ 

There's one sure way to find out: purge both gnome-keyring and gvfs-backends, which I did at noon today.

I have observed no ill effects after three or four reboots, mounting/unmounting of Palm T|Xs, external USB HDs and six hours uptime.
Now I'll just wait to see if I get any more mail in my mbox regarding BiT or whatever keyring.

Any suggestions?
Tests to do?

I'll post back if I get another message or in a fortnight, whatever comes first.

Best,

A.

#879 Re: Installation » How many keyrings? » 2022-09-25 14:51:21

Hello:

delgado wrote:

... gvfs-* packages are useful for the mounting features ...

I see.
Yes, I have pcmanfm installed.

delgado wrote:

Not strictly needed, but quite handy.

It is only suggested by pcmanfm and not a dependency.
But I do depend on cron and backintime to work properly.

I'll have to look into that some more.

Thanks for  your input.

Best,

A.

#880 Installation » How many keyrings? » 2022-09-25 12:34:34

Altoid
Replies: 10

Hello:

I am still dealing with an issue already reported upstream and with BackinTime.

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30374

Unsurprisingly, no news from upstream but it is now being worked on by the BiT people.
Under new management (so to speak) as the package's maintainance had been severely neglected/abandoned for more than a couple of years.

I have recently come across a post which would apparently suggest that gnome-keyring could be having something to do with it.
Can't find it now.  8^/

It happens that I do have gnome-keyring installed ...

[root@devuan ~]# apt list | grep keyring | grep gnome | grep installed
--- snip ---
gir1.2-gnomekeyring-1.0/now 3.12.0-1+b2 amd64 [installed,local]
gnome-keyring-pkcs11/oldstable,now 3.28.2-5 amd64 [installed,automatic]
gnome-keyring/oldstable,now 3.28.2-5 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libgnome-keyring-common/now 3.12.0-1 all [installed,local]
libgnome-keyring0/now 3.12.0-1+b2 amd64 [installed,local]
libpam-gnome-keyring/oldstable,now 3.28.2-5 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[root@devuan ~]# 

... and when I ask aptitude I get this:

[root@devuan ~]# aptitude why gnome-keyring
i   pcmanfm       Recommends gvfs-backends
i A gvfs-backends Recommends gnome-keyring
[root@devuan ~]# 

So I also asked about gvfs-backends:

[root@devuan ~]# aptitude why gvfs-backends 
i   pcmanfm Recommends gvfs-backends
[root@devuan ~]# 

Does not seem like I need one or the other.
Does it?

Q: can I safely get rid of both gnome-keyring and gvfs-backends without screwing up something else?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

Edit: format, spelling.

#881 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Accessing fora on the web » 2022-09-11 01:25:07

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

I'll try it out and see how it goes.

Unfortunately, adding the string had no effect whatsoever.

Any other idea?
Maybe different sting?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

#882 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Accessing fora on the web » 2022-09-08 12:36:47

Hello:

steve_v wrote:

Fringe browser labels Devuan ...

It is the chaps at Pi-Hole that consider Devuan a fringe OS.
The Discourse chaps have PaleMoon as unsupported.

steve_v wrote:

... you can probably cheat by just changing your user-agent...

xinomilo wrote:

... add a string in about:config, eg :
preference name : general.useragent.override.discourse.pi-hole.net
value : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0

Thanks to both for the input.  8^)
I'll try it out and see how it goes.

Best,

A.

#883 Desktop and Multimedia » Accessing fora on the web » 2022-09-07 14:38:18

Altoid
Replies: 6

Hello:

I use PaleMoon and today I found that yet another (the first one was the Pi-Hole forum) that will not accept it as it is considered an unsupported browser.
Knowing about their stance on Devuan (labelled by one of their mods as a fringe OS) I first thought it was just <i>their</i> thing.

But no.

The OpenWRT forum also considers PaleMoon an unsupported browser.
A link on their web site takes you to https://www.discourse.org/about#browser.

discourse.org wrote:

What are the minimum browser requirements?

Discourse is designed for the next 10 years of the Internet, so the minimum browser requirements are high.
Discourse supports the latest, stable releases of all major browsers and platforms:

    Microsoft Edge
    Google Chrome
    Mozilla Firefox
    Apple Safari

Additionally, we aim to support Safari on iOS 12.5+ until January 2023 (Discourse 3.0).

What a load of BS.
If anything, using one of the listed browsers is a real pain the the ass.

Is there anything that can be done to cheat Discourse's check?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

#884 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems mounting SD card on card reader » 2022-08-23 11:05:44

Hello:

Grumpy wrote:

... tried plugging the card reader into the Asus 1000HE ...

Yes.
Right before I ripped it open to see the contacts in bad shape.

I wanted to recover the quality cable/ferrite filter/USB plug combo I rescued from an old Palm IV base and grafted on to it when the original cable went bad.

It is USB 1.1 or 2.0 but worth keeping, it is like new.
They really don't make stuff like they used to.  8^|

Best,

A.

#885 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems mounting SD card on card reader » 2022-08-22 21:54:33

Hello:

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... a new sdcard reader; perhaps that the card is EXFAT formatted and the reader can't handle that.

But it always did.
I've had the reader working without much ado for the longest while.

But you are quite right ....

I can confirm that the SD card can be read perfectly well on my Asus 1000HE's on-board port.
I think the thingy finally gave up the ghost, must be 5/6 years old.

I'll mark this thread as solved and get myself a new reader tomorrow.

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#886 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems mounting SD card on card reader » 2022-08-22 20:18:54

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Looks like it doesn't have a partition table ...
Can you mount it manually?

Hmm ...
Not the last time I tried.
Let's see now.

Plugged it into the erader and the reader into the socket.
dmesg says:

[  347.180602] usb 5-5: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci
[  347.337732] usb 5-5: New USB device found, idVendor=14cd, idProduct=125a, bcdDevice= 2.00
[  347.337737] usb 5-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2
[  347.337740] usb 5-5: Product: Mass Storage Device
[  347.337742] usb 5-5: Manufacturer: Generic
[  347.337745] usb 5-5: SerialNumber: 812520090519
[  347.338023] usb-storage 5-5:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[  347.338187] scsi host7: usb-storage 5-5:1.0
[  348.369261] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access     USB Mass Storage Device        PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[  348.369596] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[  348.371680] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 3842048 512-byte logical blocks: (1.97 GB/1.83 GiB)
[  348.372368] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[  348.372372] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[  348.372994] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] No Caching mode page found
[  348.372999] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  348.434000] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
~$       

But, as before, it is not seen in the file manager.

~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt
[sudo] password for groucho: 
mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
~$ 

Hmmm ...
Rather ambiguous.
ie: this, that or any other.  8^D

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo findmnt /mnt
groucho@devuan:~$ 

The SD card is healthy as far as the camera it is used on concerns: I can se the contents and write to the card.
I think the FS is FAT16.

Thanks for  your input.

Best,

A.

#887 Installation » [SOLVED] Problems mounting SD card on card reader » 2022-08-22 19:04:54

Altoid
Replies: 6

Hello:

For the longest while I have had this problem in a sort of on/off way.
ie: does not happen all the time, but always happens when I need to see the SD's contents.

eg:
I plug in the SD card into the reader and the reader into one of the my box's USB sockets.
I then open the file manager PCManFM 1.3.1 but the SD card has not been mounted.

So I check dmesg:

~$ sudo dmesg
--- snip ---
[ 3029.553100] usb 5-5: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci
[ 3029.710237] usb 5-5: New USB device found, idVendor=14cd, idProduct=125a, bcdDevice= 2.00
[ 3029.710241] usb 5-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2
[ 3029.710244] usb 5-5: Product: Mass Storage Device
[ 3029.710246] usb 5-5: Manufacturer: Generic
[ 3029.710249] usb 5-5: SerialNumber: 812520090519
[ 3029.739442] usb-storage 5-5:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[ 3029.739977] scsi host8: usb-storage 5-5:1.0
[ 3029.740084] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[ 3029.743230] usbcore: registered new interface driver uas
[ 3030.765763] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access     USB Mass Storage Device        PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[ 3030.766106] sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
[ 3030.767372] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdg] 3842048 512-byte logical blocks: (1.97 GB/1.83 GiB)    <---- here it is
[ 3030.768873] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdg] Write Protect is off
[ 3030.768878] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdg] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[ 3030.769496] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdg] No Caching mode page found
[ 3030.769501] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 3030.822495] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdg] Attached SCSI removable disk
~$ 

Sure enough, there it is: sdg

Then I check with lsblk:

groucho@devuan:~$ lsblk
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk 
`-sda1   8:1    0 465.8G  0 part /run/timeshift/backup
sdb      8:16   0 111.8G  0 disk 
|-sdb1   8:17   0  28.9G  0 part /
|-sdb2   8:18   0     1K  0 part 
|-sdb3   8:19   0   4.1G  0 part [SWAP]
|-sdb5   8:21   0   750M  0 part /var/log
`-sdb6   8:22   0  78.1G  0 part /home
sdc      8:32   0 279.4G  0 disk 
`-sdc1   8:33   0 279.4G  0 part 
sdd      8:48   0 279.4G  0 disk 
`-sdd1   8:49   0 279.4G  0 part /media/storage
sde      8:64   0  68.4G  0 disk 
|-sde1   8:65   0  18.6G  0 part 
|-sde2   8:66   0     1K  0 part 
|-sde3   8:67   0   7.5G  0 part 
|-sde5   8:69   0   1.9G  0 part 
`-sde6   8:70   0  40.4G  0 part 
sdf      8:80   0 279.4G  0 disk 
`-sdf1   8:81   0 279.4G  0 part 
sdg      8:96   1   1.9G  0 disk   <--- no mount point
groucho@devuan:~$ 

Sure enough, there it is: sdg but it is not mounted.

usbView 2.0 sees it:   

Mass Storage Device
Manufacturer: Generic
Serial Number: 812520090519
Speed: 480Mb/s (high)
Bus:   5
Address:   4
USB Version:  2.00

The disks application sees it but states unknown content.
gparted sees it but says unallocated.

And if I put it back in my Minolta Dimage X31, it mounts the SD card and shows me the content and writes new files to it with no problems whatsoever.

Unfortunately, I have not been able to reproduce this problem, so I am at a loss as to how to fix it.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

#888 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Pi-Hole and Devuan Chimaera » 2022-08-21 01:38:28

Hello:

rbit wrote:

... was hoping another process (the old pihole?) was holding on to that port.
... can't connect, because the service is not running.

Exactly ...

rbit wrote:

Would you mind trying this ...

Of course:

root@chimaera:~# cat /etc/pihole/setupVars.conf
WEBPASSWORD=688cee6d6cc168f344644ff376482d3cd6894b5d294962dd41a514887f8972b2
BLOCKING_ENABLED=true
DNSSEC=false
REV_SERVER=false
PIHOLE_INTERFACE=eth0
PIHOLE_DNS_1=127.0.0.1#5335
PIHOLE_DNS_2=
IPV6_ADDRESS=
QUERY_LOGGING=true
INSTALL_WEB_SERVER=true
INSTALL_WEB_INTERFACE=true
LIGHTTPD_ENABLED=true
CACHE_SIZE=10000
DNS_FQDN_REQUIRED=true
DNS_BOGUS_PRIV=true
DNSMASQ_LISTENING=local
root@chimaera:~# 
root@chimaera:~# service pihole-FTL start
Not running

FTL started!
root@chimaera:~#
root@chimaera:~# service pihole-FTL status
[    ] pihole-FTL is not running

root@chimaera:~# 

It was doing this before.

rbit wrote:

... check /var/log/pihole/FTL.log for other clues.

These are the last six lines in the log:

[2022-08-20 22:04:12.618 1362M] Successfully accessed setupVars.conf
[2022-08-20 22:04:12.620 1362M] listening on 0.0.0.0 port 53
[2022-08-20 22:04:12.641 1362M] listening on :: port 53
[2022-08-20 22:04:12.655 1366M] PID of FTL process: 1366
[2022-08-20 22:04:12.657 1366M] Listening on port 4711 for incoming IPv4 telnet connections
[2022-08-20 22:04:12.668 1366M] Error opening IPv6 telnet socket: Address family not supported by protocol (97)   <------ the only error
rbit wrote:

... a section "Pi-hole diagnosis" ...

It has always read *No issues found*.

rbit wrote:

... nuke it (including configs) and re-install.

Yes.
Not too fond of that but as I was in a hurry, I did it.
Brings bad memories of Win95/98 ...   8^°

So ...
Been there, done that.
Full nuke, clean install.
No dice, same story.

I am  convinced that the problem lies with port 4711 not being accessible to Pi-Hole.

     ---> BREAKING NEWS <----

Check this:

https://discourse.pi-hole.net/t/ftl-v5- … e/57181/17

Caveat:
The web site does not work with Pale Moon, to them it is an unsupported browser. 8^|

Moderator wrote:

We found the reason why it's failing when no IPv6 is available. We'll prepare a fix for this.

root@chimaera:~# pihole checkout ftl fix/no_telnet_is_okay
  Please note that changing branches severely alters your Pi-hole subsystems
  Features that work on the master branch, may not on a development branch
  This feature is NOT supported unless a Pi-hole developer explicitly asks!
  Have you read and understood this? [y/N] y

  [✓] Branch fix/no_telnet_is_okay exists
  [i] Switching to branch: "fix/no_telnet_is_okay" from "master"
  [✓] Downloading and Installing FTL
  [✓] Restarting pihole-FTL service...
  [✓] Enabling pihole-FTL service to start on reboot...
root@chimaera:~# 

That fixed it, seems you were on the right track.  8^)
Fortunately they move fast.
Once again, thank you very much for your efforts.

Best,

A.

#889 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Pi-Hole and Devuan Chimaera » 2022-08-20 20:50:45

Hello:

Sorry for the delay ...

rbit wrote:

... can you open the pihole web admin page?

Yes, no problem with that.

Up at the top left I have this data:

Status
    DNS service not running
    Load:  0  0  0
    Memory usage:  3.1 %

Once I log in, the four screens (green, blue, ochre and red) have no information, just 'NaN'.
If I go to the 'Settings' page, I get the error message I mentioned in previously at the top:

Error
There was a problem applying your settings.
Debugging information:
PHP error (2): fsockopen(): unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:4711 (Connection refused) in /var/www/html/admin/scripts/pi-hole/php/FTL.php:44

The system tab reads:

FTL Information
The FTL service is offline!

re: /etc/pihole/setupVars.conf

rbit wrote:

... same as mine, except for PIHOLE_DNS_1=127.0.0.1#5335

This might be valid ...

It is.
I have Pi-Hole runninng as a recursive DNS server in a Chimaera headless VM inside my box.
So I use my own DNS server.

--- note start --->

If you want to check on how it is done, check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnFtWsZ8IP0
There are also a couple  of  web pages: here: https://opensourcelibs.com/lib/pihole-unbound and here: https://medium.com/nerd-for-tech/recurs … a766d4f703

<--- note end ---

rbit wrote:

My pihole goes out to other DNS servers ...

Mine goes to 192.168.1.3 which is the IP of the Chimaera VM.

This setup was working perfectly well until the last upgrade to Pi-hole v5.11.4 FTL v5.16.2 Web Interface v5.13.  8^°
Maybe it was a combination of that and some Devuan update?
Did we have a Devuan update involving access to port 4711? No idea ...

rbit wrote:

what happens when you run these ...

I think I tried this one the other day.

[root@devuan ~]# ss -tnlp | grep 4711
[root@devuan ~]# 

Nothing.

Same as if I try to telnet to the VM from my box:

[root@devuan ~]# telnet 192.168.1.3 4711
Trying 192.168.1.3...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[root@devuan ~]# 
rbit wrote:

root@devuan:/etc/pihole# ss -tnlp | grep 4711

No ...
Can't do that.
Pi-hole is not installed up in my box, it is installed in the VM.

So it would be this:

root@chimaera:/etc/pihole# ss -tnlp | grep 4711
root@chimaera:/etc/pihole# 

Again, nothing.

root@chimaera:/etc/pihole# telnet 127.0.0.1 4711
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused     <----- this is it. But why?
root@chimaera:/etc/pihole# 

Thank you very much for your efforts.
Much appreciated.

Best,

A.

#890 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Pi-Hole and Devuan Chimaera » 2022-08-20 01:44:03

Hello:

rbit wrote:

What is the output of:

service lighttpd status

Here it is:

root@chimaera:~# service lighttpd status
lighttpd is running.
root@chimaera:~# 
rbit wrote:

FYI, my (very-old) FTL.php contains this:

function connectFTL($address, $port=4711)
{
	if($address == "127.0.0.1")
	{
		// Read port
		$portfile = file_get_contents("/var/run/pihole-FTL.port");
		if(is_numeric($portfile))
			$port = intval($portfile);
	}

	// Open Internet socket connection
	$socket = @fsockopen($address, $port, $errno, $errstr, 1.0);

	return $socket;
}

I think that whatever is going on has been caused by some change in the Pi-Hole configuration.

rbit wrote:

... next place to look would be /etc/pihole/setupVars.conf... check if anything looks off in there.

Here it is:

root@chimaera:~# cat /etc/pihole/setupVars.conf
WEBPASSWORD=688cee6d6cc168f344644ff376482d3cd6894b5d294962dd41a514887f8972b2
BLOCKING_ENABLED=true
DNSSEC=false
REV_SERVER=false
PIHOLE_INTERFACE=eth0
PIHOLE_DNS_1=127.0.0.1#5335
PIHOLE_DNS_2=
QUERY_LOGGING=true
INSTALL_WEB_SERVER=true
INSTALL_WEB_INTERFACE=true
LIGHTTPD_ENABLED=true
CACHE_SIZE=10000
DNS_FQDN_REQUIRED=true
DNS_BOGUS_PRIV=true
DNSMASQ_LISTENING=local
root@chimaera:~# 

At first sight it 'looks' OK.
Not that I'd have much idea ...   8^/

rbit wrote:

... don't forget the log files: /var/log/pihole/FTL.log and /var/log/pihole/pihole.log

These are the last two  lines in /var/log/pihole/FTL.log:

[2022-08-19 18:05:28.675 1140M] Listening on port 4711 for incoming IPv4 telnet connections
[2022-08-19 18:05:28.696 1140M] Error opening IPv6 telnet socket: Address family not supported by protocol (97)

As you can see, port 4711  is mentioned.

Surely related to this line in the debugging info:

PHP error (2): fsockopen(): unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:4711 (Connection refused) in /var/www/html/admin/scripts/pi-hole/php/FTL.php:44

/var/log/pihole/pihole.log is empty.

If fsockopen gets refused trying to connect to 127.0.0.1:4711, then there is a permissions problem with port 4711.

How do I troubleshoot that, specifically?

eg:
I cannot reach port 4711 on the VM from my box:

user@devuan:~$ telnet 192.168.1.3 4711
Trying 192.168.1.3...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
user@devuan:~$ 
[root@devuan ~]# telnet 192.168.1.3 4711
Trying 192.168.1.3...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[root@devuan ~]# 

^^^ This ^^^ means that it is closed to outside access.

pihole-FTL      uses port 67 ( DHCP )       IPv4 UDP
pihole-FTL      uses port 547 ( DHCPv6 )  IPv6 UDP
lighttpd           uses port 80 ( HTTP )       TCP
pihole-FTL      4711                                TCP

But if pi-hole needs to use it for whatever, it should be able to.
ie: part of the installation (?) to make that happen.

FTL is our API engine and uses port 4711 on the localhost interface. This port should not be accessible from any other interface.

See https://docs.pi-hole.net/main/prerequisites/

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#891 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Pi-Hole and Devuan Chimaera » 2022-08-19 16:15:59

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

Hello:
It would seem like I am the only one ...   8^°

Said I because a search for 'pi-hole' or 'pihole' got me where it is mentioned but they were all mine.  8^°

Devuan is not a supported OS for Pi-Hole (but Debian is) so it's hard to figure things out when something goes wrong.

In any case, I have narrowed down the cause of a problem I am having.

After the last update, the DNS server is not starting and it looks like a permissions issue:

There was a problem applying your settings.
Debugging information:

PHP error (2): fsockopen(): unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:4711 (Connection refused) in /var/www/html/admin/scripts/pi-hole/php/FTL.php:44

Here is what is happens after I get this:

I opne a terminal on the VM where Pi-Hole is running and start pihole-FTL.
As it was stopped, it says so and then starts it:

root@chimaera:~# service pihole-FTL restart
Not running

FTL started!
root@chimaera:~#

I then immediately query the pihole-FTL status to check if this is so ...

root@chimaera:~#  service pihole-FTL status
[    ] pihole-FTL is not running
root@chimaera:~# 

... but no.
As you can see it reports as 'not running'.

Here are lines 28 to 47 from the FTL.php script mentioned in the debug output:

...
 28 }
 29 
 30 function connectFTL($address, $port) {
 31     if ($address == DEFAULT_FTL_IP) {
 32         $config = piholeFTLConfig();
 33         // Read port
 34         $portfileName = isset($config['PORTFILE']) ? $config['PORTFILE'] : DEFAULT_FTL_PORTFILE;
 35         if ($portfileName != '') {
 36             $portfileContents = file_get_contents($portfileName);
 37             if (is_numeric($portfileContents)) {
 38                 $port = intval($portfileContents);
 39             }
 40         }
 41     }
 42 
 43     // Open Internet socket connection                                       <-------             
 44     $socket = @fsockopen($address, $port, $errno, $errstr, 1.0);  <------
 45 
 46     return $socket;
 47 }
...

How can I troubleshoot / find the cause of this problem?
ie: unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:4711 (Connection refused)

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

#892 Installation » [SOLVED] Pi-Hole and Devuan Chimaera » 2022-08-19 12:23:02

Altoid
Replies: 9

Hello:

Has anyone here at Dev1 installed/run Pi-Hole?
It would seem like I am the only one ...   8^°

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

#893 Re: Installation » 32 bit browser for Devuan 5.10 » 2022-08-19 12:11:46

Hello AP:

andyprough wrote:

... they recommend the 32-bit builds by Steve Pusser.
... don't know if the latest Pale Moon will work better ...

I only had Fixefox installed due to the lack of a 32-bit PM.
I don't really like FF but could not find anything else at the time.

Fortunately, I've solved the issue with the ADSL.

Some DH at the telco did a remote firmware upgrade (the usual), changing my customer ID/PW for the service and setting up a hard wired admin PW.
All this without informing me or anyone else, not even the techs who came to see what was going on.

So I'll put the PM 32-bit thing on the back burner for the moment, I now have a severe problem with with my Pi-Hole configuration.

Thank you very much for the heads-up and the link to the 32-bit PM. 8^D

Best,

A.

#894 Re: Installation » 32 bit browser for Devuan 5.10 » 2022-08-18 10:21:16

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
rbit wrote:

Have you run apt update recently?

^ This.

I mentioned that earlier in my previous post:

Altoid wrote:

... but I run updates regularly, atb least once every fortnight.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Check the pinning with

apt policy firefox-esr

Here it is:

~$ apt policy firefox-esr
firefox-esr:
  Installed: 78.15.0esr-1~deb10u1
  Candidate: 78.15.0esr-1~deb10u1
  Version table:
 *** 78.15.0esr-1~deb10u1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     78.14.0esr-1~deb10u1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main i386 Packages
~$ 

And /apt/preferences.d is empty.

Thank you both for your input.

Best,

A.

#895 Re: Installation » 32 bit browser for Devuan 5.10 » 2022-08-17 20:33:24

Hello:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Well that's not right.

But I get this.

~$ sudo apt install firefox-esr/beowulf-security
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
firefox-esr is already the newest version (78.15.0esr-1~deb10u1).
Selected version '78.15.0esr-1~deb10u1' (Devuan-Security:3.0.0/oldstable-security [i386]) for 'firefox-esr'
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
~$ 

I have not used Firefox on this rig for two or three years, but I run updates regularly, atb least once every fortnight.
I must be doing something wrong ...  8^º

This is the sources.list file:

# Linux Beowulf 3.0 - i386 
# 20220325 - cleaned up sources list

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main non-free contrib
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main contrib non-free
groucho@eee-dev3:~$ 

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#896 Re: Installation » 32 bit browser for Devuan 5.10 » 2022-08-17 14:49:32

Hello:

Thanks for the prompt reply.  8^)

Camtaf wrote:

I have Firefox-esr from the repos on my 32bit Devuan Live install ...

Is it the same version I have installed?
ie: 78.15.0esr

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#897 Installation » 32 bit browser for Devuan 5.10 » 2022-08-17 11:28:25

Altoid
Replies: 14

Hello:

Background
My ISP has been screwing around with the cabling and as a result of whatever they are up to I am (for maybe 72 hrs.?) without web access.

As a result (firmware update?) I have lost access to the ADSL modem's admin -> advanced options settings where I direct it to a Chimaera VM running a PiHole/Unbound recursive DNS in my main box.

The local telco is on a holy war to rip out all the copper lines and get everyone and their dog on fibre manu military and what is happening is part of the pressure on the clients to go along.

Fibre is something I do not want or need as if/when power goes down, there is nowhere to call as the fibre modem goes dead without power.
And without power, there's nothing to charge your phone's battery with after a day or so.

Till this problem gets solved, I am using a slow WiFi on my Asus 1000HE, enabled for me by a neighbour two doors down.
Should the admin lock-out turn out to be permanent, I'll post a question to solve the modem problem on another thread.

Request
For now I need the forum's collective to give me a hand and suggest a viable 32-bit browser for my 1000HE.
The installed browser (have not used it since before the pandemic) is Firefox 78.15.0esr, not the best choice at present.

As we know, Pale Moon stopped the 32-bit versions back in 2020.
The 1000HE is running Devuan 32-bit on a back ported kernel, just like my main box.

~$ uname -a
Linux eee-dev3 5.10.0-0.bpo.15-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 5.10.120-1~bpo10+1 (2022-06-13) i686 GNU/Linux
~$ 

Thanks in advance.

Best,

A.

#898 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-04 12:35:07

Hello:

Yes, the problem is almost certainly network interface name.

Hmm ...
Nothing in the release notes about that?  8^°

delgado wrote:

... sometimes it's better to just start fresh.

Granted.

It is much easier, particularly if you have limited Linux experience.
But ...

Check this out:
https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/25/ … _upgraded/

And tell me if anyone can pull that one off with any of the MS OSs .

Best,

O.

#899 Re: Forum Feedback » How about adding Index >> Discuss >> "Init System"? » 2022-08-04 12:23:59

Hello:

dvnUsr wrote:

Please select one of the following ...

I'm not ignoring your post ...   But it does not seem to be a popular destination, so to speak.
But I agree: that particular topic has already been thrashed to death.

Resurrected and then thrashed to death.
Again.

Fortunately and for the time being Devuan is doing quite alright with what the devs and maintainers have on their respective plates, kudos to them.
I say for the time being because in the present situation, nothing is a given.

Keeping Devuan Linux working in spite of the systemd onslaught on the Linux ecosystem takes a lot of work.

That said ...

In my opinion, there's no "Init System" discussion needed.
Besides, it would probably attract the usual pro-systemd crowd.
Not needed either, at least here at Devuan.

What is needed is help in testing and bug reporting when those things arise.

Best,

A.

#900 Desktop and Multimedia » [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 21.1.4 » 2022-07-13 14:37:14

Altoid
Replies: 0

Hello:

Good to know someone took over at X.Org.

Kudos to Kanapickas!  8^)

---

This release fixes 2 recently reported security vulnerabilities in xkb, several
regressions since 1.20.x and a number of miscellaneous bugs.

Błażej Szczygieł (1):
       present: Check for NULL to prevent crash

Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia (23):
       rootless: Dead code removal (ROOTLESS_REDISPLAY_DELAY is already defined)
       X11Application: Ensure TIS operations are done on the main thread
       os/connection: Improve abstraction for launchd secure sockets
       xquartz: Create a separate category for organizing user preferences
       xquartz pbproxy: Adopt NSUserDefaults+XQuartzDefaults for preferences
       xquartz: Fold spaces related preferences into NSUserDefaults+XQuartzDefaults
       XQuartz: Ensure scroll events are delivered to a single window (not both X11 and AppKit)
       meson: Bump requirement to meson-0.50.0
       xquartz: Update Sparkle configuration to use SUPublicEDKey
       xquartz: Update copyright for 2022
       meson: Provide options to set CFBundleVersion and CFBundleVersionString in XQuartz
       Revert "meson: Bump requirement to meson-0.50.0"
       xquartz: Update autotools-based builds of XQuartz to account for recent changes
       print_edid: Fix a format string error
       xf86-input-inputtest: Fix build on systems without SOCK_NONBLOCK
       tests: Fix build failure from missing micmap.c
       meson: Support building Xnest and Xorg on darwin
       XQuartz: Build the bundle trampoline when using meson
       XQuartz: Add TCC reason keys to Info.plist
       xquartz: Use correct defines when building to support Sparkle updates
       xquartz: Fix a possible crash when editing the Application menu due to mutaing immutable arrays
       XQuartz: Improve type safety for X11Controller's application menu editor
       xquartz: Add missing files to distribution tarball

Olivier Fourdan (1):
       render: Fix build with gcc 12

Peter Hutterer (3):
       xkb: switch to array index loops to moving pointers
       xkb: swap XkbSetDeviceInfo and XkbSetDeviceInfoCheck
       xkb: add request length validation for XkbSetGeometry

Povilas Kanapickas (5):
       Revert "os: Try to discover the current seat with the XDG_SEAT var first"
       dix: Correctly save replayed event into GrabInfoRec
       dix: Don't send touch end to clients that do async grab without touches
       xfree86: Fix event data alignment in inputtest driver
       xserver 21.1.4

Samuel Thibault (1):
       xkb: fix XkbSetMap when changing a keysym without changing a keytype

git tag: xorg-server-21.1.4

https://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/in … 1.4.tar.gz
SHA256: cbd5a1f75881e8a341823e51e489281aee0912c7023b4eed170b26b18f617e36  xorg-server-21.1.4.tar.gz
SHA512: 6e15d5c7f2a63f72688d3b04c3493271f419a69ce4b0c412a14293c40463733e050beb594689f27e5048b2356ce8f5b84aae96dad4a422054b36393d2f3d1847  xorg-server-21.1.4.tar.gz
PGP:  https://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/in … tar.gz.sig

https://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/in … 1.4.tar.xz
SHA256: 5cc4be8ee47edb58d4a90e603a59d56b40291ad38371b0bd2471fc3cbee1c587  xorg-server-21.1.4.tar.xz
SHA512: eb5b8520d02908f72719e6ecfbf7a9bf139acb65ccae04d1db4223a8a2384cd3a94bd5afef10cce327b751b800cc2b79bfaa5ae35c95c3a217f775168082e68f  xorg-server-21.1.4.tar.xz
PGP:  https://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/in … tar.xz.sig

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Best,

O.

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