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#601 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] New install gave me a basic 640 resolution on older PC » 2023-08-17 05:00:13

Try: at the installer splash screen, push TAB so as to go to the boot installer line, then move back with the arrow key to change vga=788 to be vga=785.

That would select the old VGA standard, which was 640x480 and all monitors & graphics supposedly should deal with that. The "modern" choice of vga=788 instead configures an 800x600 display and perhaps your setup doesn;t like that.

An alternative/additional boot line fix could be to remove nomodeset although that should only concern graphics mode, which the installer doesn't use.

#602 Re: News & Announcements » sources.list confusion. » 2023-08-17 00:47:51

Run apt update once and confirm.

EDIT for some background: The root of this problem is that the InRelease file for debian-security previously had the wrong "Label" setting of "Devuan Security", and that is what has got loaded onto your system while updating devuan-secuirty before while in testing.

Apt keeps a copy of all the "dists" files, such as

/var/lib/apt/lists/....InRelease

and it's that file that has

Label: Devuan Security

on your system, whereas the one in the remote repo was corrected to have

Label: Devuan-Security

when also it changed to

Suite: stable-security

That is what the Apt system (by apt-get) discovers and complains about. The apt program does the same, but then reacts by asking you to confirm that the new file is good rather than  just discarding it.

#604 Re: Installation » How/what is at step "Detect and mount installation media" » 2023-08-04 01:10:58

@abd, perhaps you can enter an Alt-F2 shell, then capture and send the output of blkid and fdisk -l for me.

Note that the ISO has a first partition that "spans the whole drive", which in particular includes the partition table. If you then mess with the partition table, it upsets the recognition of that partition as an iso9660 filesystem, and the installer might not be able to mount it.

EDIT: in short, where the dialogs for manual selection of media ask for module and device, choose "none" for additional module, and use the device node name from blkid, for the first partition of the device with the ISO image.

#605 Re: Installation » How/what is at step "Detect and mount installation media" » 2023-08-03 21:16:23

1. Which installation ISO do you use?
2. Which install option do you use?
3. Which error message do you get?
4. What's the block device setup at the time of the error?

#606 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall - no DE » 2023-08-02 22:59:24

That was a bit cryptic.

Do you mean that you did have "stable" or "testing" in your sources.list but you don't think of that as foreign repos?

#607 Re: Devuan » Send all network traffic through Tor on Devuan » 2023-07-28 23:49:01

@hejik, well tor is the same as any other tunneling. You run a client on the clilent host that has a tap interface for tunnel traffic, and then you direct all networking except the tunnel itself to go via that tap. (It's also easy to make it more complicated with virtual machines and bridges and whatnot)

If you use ifupdown for your networking, you would program that as directives in /etc/network/interfaces (or in a separate fragment file sourced by it). Or whatever networking tooling you use you should be able to attach configuration and deconfiguration with that. (Possibly tor includes networking hooks)

EDIT: I would have thought tor comes with instructions when you install it?

#608 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 23:39:25

Ok. Apparently the partitioner picks up all swap partitions (can't see sdg3 but taht'd be another swap partition). It should be possible to avoid that by deslecting those ("don't use this partition") via that previous dialog.

#609 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 13:22:10

How does the dialog before that one look?

#610 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 02:44:52

Looks funny yes, but it's hard to know what is happening when you start partitioning the installer disk, whose first partition (which spans the whole image) is mounted at that time.

Generally it's not a problem for the installer to install onto any other disk, whether USB or not, but installing over itself is probably stretching it too far.

If you for practical reasons or whatever really need the installed system to replace the installer on that USB, you need to exercise a fair bit of commandline fu to make that happen; e.g. by setting up an nbd disk image in RAM to install to, and then copy that onto the USB just before reboot... (not something I've done, but it could be fun smile )

... or maybe I have misunderstood your use case?

#611 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 01:04:30

Have you done like that before? What did you expect to see?

#613 Re: Devuan » Devuan 5 Daedalus Release (Debian 12 - Bookworm) | Looking for info » 2023-07-26 19:15:16

@birdi, perhaps installing haveged makes a difference for you.

#614 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-08 08:02:08

Thanks. yes that's good confirmation.

The USB problem case came up because the "installer pre-boot" (on those isos) is insufficiently stocked with kernel modules, so it fails to operate that device to find the "actual installer". The onwards iso building is revised to comprehensively include all (current) block device options.

#615 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-08 04:26:44

Ok, yes that would be the isolinux (syslinux) menu. That boot case is supposedly the same for the daedalus iso although the actual boot menu is slightly different.

But it also depends on whether the legacy bios sees the USB as a cdrom at /dev/sdX or as a bootable partition at /dev/sdX1. There is then a slight difference between the chimaera and daedalus isos in  that the type code for the first partition is 0x00 (Empty) for the chimaera iso and 0x11 (Hidden..) for the daedalus iso. Possibly that difference is what causes your bios to treat them differently.

The upcoming rc4 will be "corrected" to use 0x00 as type code, and in addition include further changes towards handling Andre's use case.

#616 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-08 00:43:21

@sgage thanks for those.

It's quite peculiar that the chimaera and daedalus isos have different legacy boot behaviour since they supposedly are the same for legacy boot.

They do differ in UEFI boot loading where chimaera iso has grub whereas daedalus iso has syslinux.

Or, does the working chimaera iso come up as a grub boot menu for you?

#617 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-07 23:13:12

@Andre4freedom before we close of "missing module" as reason, would you mind posting output of lspci -v from your Alma-linux. (That should tell explicitly which modul(s) are in use).

EDIT: actually, now I realize the installer pre-boot doesn't have ehci-pci (nor ohci-pci) which I think means it doesn't support USB2 or USB1. That's not ideal. Looks like there is an rc4 coming up shortly for that...

#618 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-07 22:31:01

Peculiar.
Would you mind booting up chimaera and show both ls -l /dev/ and lsmod from there?

#619 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-07 20:55:59

I assume you still see the bootloader menu?
If so, try by pushing TAB, then remove "nomodeset" and then push ENTER... does that start up the installer?

If you don't seen the bootloader menu then the problem is at the ISO format level. That's a bit harder to debug.
Does chimaera netinstall work for you?

Note: the dd command of post#4 above is typically good, though I think there might be bogus variants of dd on some (non-linux) platforms.

#620 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-07 10:36:29

Thanks!
Evidently the installer pre-boot is missing the scsi block device support.
There will be an rc3 drop shortly without that problem.

#621 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-07 00:08:38

Thanks. Good information showing "normal" hardware, but I need more smile

In summary it seems that machine is able to load the pre-boot system if booted in UEFI mode, but not if booted in legacy mode. (is that correct? or does the installer start equivalently in legacy mode?)

One of possible reasons for such an outcome is if the USB stick requires a kernel module (device driver) that is missing from from the pre-boot system, and that is the information I am looking for.

For example, what does the Alma-linux system log say when the USB stick is inserted? Which kernel modules get loaded?.

#622 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-06 11:14:21

Yes I'll deal with reporting.

Which hardware is this?

EDIT:  Also, in the emergency shell: run "fdisk -l" and capture that output (too).

#623 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems booting USB made from devuan_daedalus_5.0.0-rc2_amd64_* » 2023-07-06 09:49:29

Quite possibly we could turn this into a useful bug report; just describe in some detail which media you used and how did you prepare that? A memory stick or an actual CD? I assume you verified the sha256sum, but it's good if you confirm that.

EDIT: I seem to have ignored the title.. a USB would be a memory stick...

So how did you prepare it?

Could you run again and use the emergency shell to report the output from ls -l /dev

If you can install another USB stick, you could mount that and then copy /var/log/syslog to it, and put that into a code block of a post here.

#624 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No wifi on Acer Aspire 3 » 2023-07-02 21:07:22

Sorry, I only use traditional ifupdown for my networking, and since you mentioned editing /etc/network/interfaces I thought you did the same.

By the looks of it the kernel recognizes the hardware. I would have thought the boot-up log would mention that hardware and which firmware gets loaded. At least there should be some mt7663* module loaded. You may check that with lsmod.

Surely someone that uses NetworkManager may have further ideas.

#625 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No wifi on Acer Aspire 3 » 2023-07-02 13:36:42

what's the output of

# rfkill

(install it if you don't have it)

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