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#26 Re: Installation » Hosted VPS server migration from debian to devuan hosed » 2018-06-07 15:54:23
OMG you're fast. I'll try very hard to set up a debian jessie system on Saturday and run your script on that. Fingers crossed 
#27 Re: Installation » Hosted VPS server migration from debian to devuan hosed » 2018-06-06 14:28:40
@golinux:
Your post ("started out on a VPS with Debian 8 upgraded to Devuan Jessie ") made me remember that I've seen "somewhere" a post explaining how to covert debian 8 from systemd to to sysVinit, and one of the OSs on offer at the hoster is debian jessie (which I think is 8, I'm no good with names, numbers lend themselves more to chronological order).
@devuser:
I'm leaning to the conclusion that it might probably be more efficient to just order another VPS instance at the provider, install debian 8, and apply the conversion therapy I've seen somewhere. If this works, and at the moment I wouldn't bet on it, next thing I'm (or somebody else? (*)) should do, is disable as many daemons as possible on this new VPS instance as possible (to reduce the number of disk writes during copying), then dd|scp the complete thing somewhere home to try it on an old PC, where one at least sees where the smoke is coming out.
Should this work, the actual conversion to devuan could be performed (fine tuned, aren't I hopeful?) on this PC, with ample documentation to allow remote re-runs.
Everything else is both too error prone and, due to the time a remote re-installation takes, too slow.
(*) "or somebody else": I'm willing to order the VPS and hand the credentials to someone else for the surgery, as long as the outcome is made available to anybody who needs it. Maybe other kind souls could do the same for VPSs [or dedicated servers] at other providers?
@golinux:
As you mention "crayons" in your post I have to have a word with you . I'm 67, with cataract on the horizon. In fact I've had poor eye sight for more than 25 years and it's getting worse each time I have a checkup, resulting in new glasses.
Although dev1galaxy.org is ok, I find it _very_ difficult to use devuan.org, especially in the evening. Worst of all are links I've visited before [a:visited] --- I simply don't see them without turning style sheets off. Don't forget the baby boomers are all old farts now. Contrast is the best fix for that, some countries even have minimum requirements for contrast. Please (!) try to look into that.
#28 Re: Installation » Hosted VPS server migration from debian to devuan hosed » 2018-06-05 18:49:47
I totally agree that something is desperately needed to get devuan into the hosting world, because apart from Centos 6.9 --- which will only get security fixes for another year or two --- there's nothing without systemd that I know of. Once that's no longer available, we're stuffed.
I just had another look at the options available from this provider. "Rescue mode" is basically reinstalling the OS from a list of systems, of which only centos 6.9 is systemd-free. The best I can have is a simulated KVM (in the browser).
The problem I see is that I can't access any media other than what's on offer. The only way I can envisage some sort of progress is to reinstall the OS, this time via "KVM", which would then allow me to partition the "disk", boot the new OS, and then upload an iso image into one of the partitions. But how do you then boot from the uploaded iso on the partition?
And I can't see how to dd an image to the VPS disk when I'm sitting miles away from the server and have only the remote instance booted off the VPS disk. I've dd'd disks across the network via ssh many times. But in every case the system reading or writing raw data to or from disk was booted from a dvd (or another disk) with the paired system reading or writing the raw data to or from an ordinary file on a mounted disk.
Can't get my head around this at the moment.
#29 Installation » Hosted VPS server migration from debian to devuan hosed » 2018-06-04 20:04:07
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I had to set up a small VPS server hosted in the UK on Friday. As the provider doesn't offer devuan I tried to start with a debian setup to be migrated to devuan following the instructions on
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … e-to-ascii
starting at "Perform the migration" (commands above that section aren't relevant on a server).
Everything worked without a warning or error message until apt-get autoclean right at the end of the page describing how to migrate. Unfortunately after that the system didn't reboot when told to. I reinstalled debian thinking I might have made a mistake, but repeating the install the reboot to verify the system's readiness failed again. Because I had to complete the setup that day I then went and installed centos 6.9, the last release of that OS that hasn't been "poettering'ed" (w/o systemd).
But I dearly would like to get a hosted VPS running devuan and I'm sure others fell the same.
Question: not having the skills I don't know how to approach this. I know that the provider uses VMware, but apart from that I'm in the dark. Any takers?
#30 Re: Installation » Minor problem with laptop installation » 2018-06-03 18:38:17
Ok, I just played around with it again, and I remembered that when I originally became somewhat frustrated with it at first it worked for a while, but if I switch between wired and wireless more than once it loses the ability to connect to the wired eth0. Even if I switch OFF wireless it can no longer do wired. So in the end I just reinstalled my zero size wired-settings.conf to have wicd ignore the wired netcard (Don't know if it has anything to do with it but I often can see up to a dozen accesspoints, some of them open [no passwd required]).
Here's the wired-settings.conf that worked temporarily:
[wired-default]
afterscript = None
dhcphostname = is.work-lanname
postdisconnectscript = None
dns_domain = workplace.tld
gateway = 192.168.0.64
use_global_dns = False
lastused = True
encryption_enabled = False
beforescript = None
ip = 192.168.0.8
broadcast = None
netmask = 255.255.255.0
usedhcphostname = 0
predisconnectscript = None
enctype = None
default = 1
dns2 = 192.168.0.64
search_domain = None
use_static_dns = True
dns3 = None
profilename = wired-default
dns1 = 192.168.0.63Here's my manager-settings.conf:
[Settings]
backend = external
wireless_interface = eth1
wired_interface = eth0
wpa_driver = wext
always_show_wired_interface = False
use_global_dns = False
global_dns_1 = None
global_dns_2 = None
global_dns_3 = None
global_dns_dom = None
global_search_dom = None
auto_reconnect = True
debug_mode = 0
wired_connect_mode = 1
signal_display_type = 0
should_verify_ap = 1
dhcp_client = 0
link_detect_tool = 0
flush_tool = 0
sudo_app = 0
prefer_wired = False
show_never_connect = TrueMaybe you see something in there, if not, I'll keep my current setup with the 0-size wired-settings.conf
#31 Installation » GCC multilib installation bug? » 2018-06-03 14:29:08
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I have an application that's been developed when 64bit processors were unknown. Although in theory it should work as a 64bit app I rather not spend the time doing regression tests, so I drag it from system to system compiling it as a 32bit app.
After setting up and installing the multilib environment according to debian howtos (dpkg --add-architecture i386, apt-get install gcc-multilib) I get link errors for libraries that reside in in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu due to missing symlinks (libs in /lib/i386-linux-gnu are fine).
To use libpng and libfreetype after installing both I had to manually create the links marked "Fixed" below.
Fixed lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 May 5 09:12 libfreetype.so -> libfreetype.so.6.12.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Apr 27 2017 libfreetype.so.6 -> libfreetype.so.6.12.3
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 731472 Apr 27 2017 libfreetype.so.6.12.3
Fixed lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May 5 09:11 libpng.so -> libpng16.so
Fixed lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 May 5 09:10 libpng16.so -> libpng16.so.16.28.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Jan 9 2017 libpng16.so.16 -> libpng16.so.16.28.0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 230708 Jan 9 2017 libpng16.so.16.28.0Apart from that I'm immensely pleased with the way devuan comes along.
#32 Installation » Minor problem with laptop installation » 2018-06-03 13:12:40
- ks
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A while ago I installed Ascii beta on a laptop after having used Centos for many years. Everything went better than I expected, and I'm thrilled. Except:
Depending on where I use the laptop I have either ethernet with a static IP or wifi with a dynamic IP (dhcpd on the lan). Wicd seems unable to deal with this.
The damn thing totally ignored both my settings for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces and those in
/etc/wicd/wired-settings.conf, always demanding an ip address from the nearest dhcp server (which would stop me from ssh'ing into the laptop when using eth0). In the end I resorted to just creating an empty
/etc/wicd/wired-settings.conf file for wicd, and left the /etc/network/interfaces for when I plug in a cable.
For this works, but I have no idea if what I did is even remotely correct.
#33 Re: Installation » Thanks » 2018-05-08 13:34:16
Let me second that.
I've installed ascii beta on my laptop [i386] and on my desktop [amd64] about a week ago and, coming from centos 6.9 after hesitating for a long time, am quite pleased. Occasionally I trip over something, not because it's broken but because it's different from what I've been using - redhat 5 to 9, rhel for a while, fedora 2 to 8, then centos. But google, even if it always asks "did you mean ...", still can provide the odd answer.
I've found two thing's I'd class as mishaps, or small bugs, and one irritant.
I'll create some subject specific threads over the next few days. But otherwise a big thumbs up to the guys [and gals?] who made devuan possible!
thanks
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