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#226 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Unable to install Daedalus » 2025-03-02 03:17:35
And what does "supposedly the same ISO except for branding/sources with the equivalent Debian on it" mean?
That means two installers built using the same method only changing the brand name and sources should have identical results when used. The Devuan installer obviously does not use the same method as Debian to build it as it fails to install with the Ventory used. The other question you ask about means exactly what I said. I will say again if you cannot understand it. Devuan is the only ISO I have ever tried to install from with Ventoy that has not worked, all of the other dozen or so tried have done it perfectly fine. It is the outlier in all of them not some common problem with it you try to portray.
#227 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Unable to install Daedalus » 2025-03-01 16:11:06
The point is that Ventoy does not provide the respetive ISOs as mountable partitions which is what many installers expect and require; they require that the initrd software of the installer is able mount the media.
The only ISO I have ever found that will not work for install with Ventoy is the Devuan, supposedly the same ISO except for branding/sources with the equivalent Debian on it boots and installs perfectly..
#228 Re: Forum Feedback » I can't believe you closed the Joke thread. » 2025-02-28 00:46:44
As a preemptive strike, how do I delete my account. TIA.
@moulder61
I find the easiest way to do it is go into your browsers password and login store delete the site there, logout of site then remove any bookmark you may have set. Do the password and login delete in any password manager you may use as well. This works perfectly fine to never use it again, though some do have a delete the account in their user settings as well. I just used the first procedure just early this week, when I was told to censor my posts for calling systemd the piece of garbage it is or the mods would/could do it for me. I told them to stick the account and their forum where the sun does not shine and did the procedure, they did not have delete option.
#229 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » ddr3 sdram upgrade » 2025-02-23 16:33:13
i have an ssd 128 gb that can be inserted instead of dwd
but is there a method to configure it as a buffer
and is it possible and useful
Depends on how it is setup by the replacement device used. If it is a direct connection to the internal Hard Drive controller allowing it to boot the machine then it can be damn useful. That type of arrangement can be the same as replacing the internal hard drive. You need to determine the way it connects to the machine, the speed of the connection it gets when in it. But generally it is good to try and use it as your install to boot from to see if it will speed up your machine. If Camtaf is correct with the specifications he posts for your machine and it has four slots with maximum capacity of 16GB for the machine then the ram you show is incorrect for your machine as the most it will take are 4GB higher speed modules and you link to are 8GB. Before buying anything make certain of the return policies in the event what you get does not work with your machine.
Now I have looked for them this place suggests 32GB or 4 X 8GB modules are supported.
https://memory.net/product-category/len … 30-series/
As does the Kingston web site.
https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/sear … 530-series
And this German site says the same thing as well.
https://www.compuram.biz/memory/lenovo/ … quad-core/
The one thing they all have in common is the 1600mhz for the ram speed, if replacing your ram in the end then this is the speed you need to get to run it at its full potential. And as I have already said make certain any place you buy from has no questions asked no hassle returns policy. There is no sense wasting your money if you find what you have bought does not work properly and they will not let you return it.
#230 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » ddr3 sdram upgrade » 2025-02-23 09:27:27
no 'V - not buffer - not ECC',
No clue on the V - not buffer, there is buffered and unbuffered memory, but the not ECC is what you want for it. The error correcting (ECC) memory is used for servers not consumer machines like a laptop. Perhaps you could post link to the memory so people can see the exact model you are thinking of buying.
#231 Re: News & Announcements » The dev1galaxy.org (almost) No Code of Conduct » 2025-02-23 01:14:11
THE most sensible set of rules for any forum I have ever seen just about perfection.
#232 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] error 500 while upgrading » 2025-02-22 18:47:20
Are you using unstable too, green ? No problemo ?
I use the testing/unstable combination with apt pinning to get the packages from testing first then if needed from the unstable if they have not got there yet. It works well without problems.
#233 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] error 500 while upgrading » 2025-02-22 17:49:22
that solved 2/3 of the problem, still python3-apt didn't update, but I will wait for devs
That depends on a package in the unstable/ceres that does not exist.
root@9600k:~# apt install -s -t unstable python3-apt
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
Unsatisfied dependencies:
python3-apt : Depends: libapt-pkg7.0 (>= 2.9.27+exp1) but it is not installable
Error: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@9600k:~# apt-cache policy libapt-pkg7.0
libapt-pkg7.0:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:#234 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Does different apt mirrors even work? They didn't work for me » 2025-02-12 23:29:06
Good luck with it, I went through that entire list checking every one and as you have found most are useless for the purpose intended, being a mirror of Devuan.
#235 Re: Installation » Got wayland on gnome working(AMDGPU only, nvidia has problems) » 2025-02-11 16:07:30
For this purpose you can use Gnome auto-starting mechanism.
Indeed and use something like this to ensure you do not get conflicting instances of it started as well.
zeus@9600k:~$ cat bin/pipewire_start.sh
#!/bin/bash
# Added to start pipewire on login to desktop
# https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867
# was the ~/.xsessionrc -rw-rw-r-- permissions
# now ~/bin/pipewire_start.sh executable permissions
# as bash script loaded from KDE autostart in System Settings
# kill any existing pipewire instance to restore sound
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/wireplumber 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire 1>/dev/null 2>&1
exec /usr/bin/pipewire &
# wait for pipewire to start before attempting to start related daemons
while [ "$(pgrep -f /usr/bin/pipewire)" = "" ] ; do
sleep 1
done
# start wireplumber
exec /usr/bin/wireplumber &
# start pipewire-pulse
exec /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse ì Re: Packaging for Devuan » Repositories and their compatibility Devuan » 2025-02-10 21:40:24
I just gave examples, no guaranteed solutions.
Indeed and I gave the practical in use examples of them to save him some time and further frustration.
#237 Re: Packaging for Devuan » Repositories and their compatibility Devuan » 2025-02-10 20:49:45
Last but not least you might use this example: http://ftp.fau.de/merged using the mirror ftp.fau.de from Germany. Adapt to your needs.
Well if your needs include excalibur or unstable it will not work.
Ign:5 http://ftp.fau.de/merged excalibur InRelease
Ign:6 http://ftp.fau.de/merged unstable InRelease
Err:7 http://ftp.fau.de/merged excalibur Release
404 Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
Err:8 http://ftp.fau.de/merged unstable Release
404 Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
Error: The repository 'http://ftp.fau.de/merged excalibur Release' does not have a Release file.
Notice: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
Notice: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
Error: The repository 'http://ftp.fau.de/merged unstable Release' does not have a Release file.
Notice: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
Notice: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.3.) Use http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged as example for Germany.
That however does.
Get:5 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur InRelease [40.7 kB]
Get:6 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged unstable InRelease [47.6 kB]
Get:7 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages [9,624 kB]
Get:8 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main Translation-en [7,207 kB]
Get:9 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 Contents (deb) [10.1 MB]
Get:10 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free amd64 Packages [96.4 kB]
Get:11 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free Translation-en [69.0 kB]
Get:12 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free amd64 Contents (deb) [65.1 kB]
Get:13 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/contrib amd64 Packages [51.9 kB]
Get:14 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/contrib Translation-en [49.1 kB]
Get:15 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/contrib amd64 Contents (deb) [158 kB]
Get:16 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free-firmware amd64 Packages [6,936 B]
Get:17 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free-firmware Translation-en [4,641 B]
Get:18 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/non-free-firmware amd64 Contents (deb) [1,020 B]
Get:19 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged unstable/main amd64 Packages [10.3 MB]#238 Re: Packaging for Devuan » Repositories and their compatibility Devuan » 2025-02-10 17:24:51
RedGreen925, and how to see the mirror of the country?
Seen posting by someone mentioning the us. for the code when a person was having problem and figured I would try mine, it worked as well as the us. did when I tried it. I went through every mirror in the listing of them they have when I first installed to find good one and quite frankly it is not impressive errors all over the place with them. Ranging from timeouts/404 errors to not having release files or the gpg signing of them.
#239 Re: Packaging for Devuan » Repositories and their compatibility Devuan » 2025-02-10 14:14:56
Upgrading the system trying to migrate....
# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
That is not the command to upgrade a system from one version to the next, if it is old enough the apt dist-upgrade is to be used or the apt full-upgrade is the new option. An apt upgrade with the old repository enabled should be done just before changing the sources.list to the new version to be used when changing repositories again to do it. For the mirrors problem you are having try ca.deb.devuan.org it seems to work well enough for me the deb.devuan.org arrangement was not the best at all. See if putting your country code in front of it will find a mirror that actually works for you or use mine. Now I check it again you are at the correct first step before the migration the apt upgrade of the old system.
#240 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Desktop won't wake from sleep [again] » 2025-02-10 00:37:51
There have been suggestions that it is a kernel bug, also a plot between Microsoft and the BIOS makers. My money is on the kernel bug, or some oversight in the installation scripting.
Well if it is then upgrade your kernel you are four versions behind, the -31 kernel just came out yesterday. For the sleep problem no clue I never use it.
#241 Re: Installation » .xinitrc like in wayland ? » 2025-02-10 00:29:07
Are you possibly doing this for running pipewire in Wayland? I couldn't make it work on wayland so.
Not that I use it as it kills off my mouse button mapping I use but it does work in an autostart script I made the .xsessionrc into on my KDE desktop.
zeus@9600k:~$ cat bin/pipewire_start.sh
#!/bin/bash
# Added to start pipewire on login to desktop
# https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867
# was the ~/.xsessionrc -rw-rw-r-- permissions
# now ~/bin/pipewire_start.sh executable permissions
# as bash script loaded from KDE autostart in System Settings
# kill any existing pipewire instance to restore sound
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/wireplumber 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire 1>/dev/null 2>&1
exec /usr/bin/pipewire &
# wait for pipewire to start before attempting to start related daemons
while [ "$(pgrep -f /usr/bin/pipewire)" = "" ] ; do
sleep 1
done
# start wireplumber
exec /usr/bin/wireplumber &
# start pipewire-pulse
exec /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse &Edit: I think others desktops have a similar feature to do the same.
#242 Re: Packaging for Devuan » LXQt is too old » 2025-02-09 03:30:49
Debian stable never updates packages like that, any OS based on it, which daedalus is, has the same limitations. If you want newer version then you need to upgrade to excalibur which has the version 32. This is always the main complaint about the Debian stable versions the software is frozen at the time of release not getting updated versions until the next stable release in about two years time they aim for these days.
root@9600k:~# apt policy lxqt
lxqt:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 32+b1
Version table:
32+b1 950
950 http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
600 http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged unstable/main amd64 Packages#243 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How do I get apt-add-repository to work on Devuan? » 2025-02-07 17:50:02
Users shouldn't need to figure out how to fix it, then fix it, on their own - that's what we have distro developers and maintainers for after all...
In a perfect world this is true, that is not the one we live in. The time has come to use the report bug link included in that file to report the problem and hopefully have it solved by them. Until then you get to do the work around to get done what you need done.
#244 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How do I get apt-add-repository to work on Devuan? » 2025-02-07 13:25:18
... unfortunately, that is not enough, two issues remain:
1. Case-sensitive comparison of "Devuan" and "devuan" in /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py (probably, there should be a .tolower() call at some earlier point), and
2. The script parses the relevant meta-data wrong, concluding that the distribution's "codename" is excalibur ceres rather than just excalibur.I'm not sure at this point how to fix that robustly; help is appreciated.
Well you seem fine with editing the distro.py, what is the problem with editing the other file need in this the os-release to match what is expected/required of it to work as you need. Make the two changed needed in it and it will work like you need it to do.
#245 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How do I get apt-add-repository to work on Devuan? » 2025-02-06 22:10:07
And if not - can someone give me an idea regarding how to make the script find an appropriate template?
Sure make a duplicate of the /etc/os-release file with debian listed in it. Actually better off going to debian website and get the base-files package from testing using ar to extract the .deb you can download from the link. The files that are setting the OS version are in that package.
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur/ceres)"
NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="6"
VERSION="6 (excalibur/ceres)"
VERSION_CODENAME="excalibur ceres"
ID=devuan
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.devuan.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://devuan.org/os/community"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.devuan.org/"
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/debian_version
trixie/sidActually just did it here.
zeus@9600k:~$ cd Downloads/
zeus@9600k:~/Downloads$ mkdir base_files
zeus@9600k:~/Downloads$ mv base-files_13.6_amd64.deb base_files/
zeus@9600k:~/Downloads$ cd base_files/
zeus@9600k:~/Downloads/base_files$ ar -xv base-files_13.6_amd64.deb
x - debian-binary
x - control.tar.xz
x - data.tar.xz
zeus@9600k:~/Downloads/base_files$ ll
total 192
72 -rw-rw-r-- 1 zeus zeus 72836 Feb 6 17:51 base-files_13.6_amd64.deb
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 zeus zeus 7 Nov 22 10:40 bin -> usr/bin/
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 boot/
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 3196 Feb 6 17:52 control.tar.xz
68 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 69448 Feb 6 17:52 data.tar.xz
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 4 Feb 6 17:52 debian-binary
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 dev/
4 drwxr-xr-x 7 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 etc/
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 home/
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 zeus zeus 7 Nov 22 10:40 lib -> usr/lib/
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 zeus zeus 9 Nov 22 10:40 lib64 -> usr/lib64/
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 proc/
4 drwx------ 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 root/
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 run/
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 zeus zeus 8 Nov 22 10:40 sbin -> usr/sbin/
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 sys/
4 drwxrwxr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 tmp/
4 drwxr-xr-x 10 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 usr/
4 drwxr-xr-x 11 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 var/
zeus@9600k:~/Downloads/base_files$ ll etc/
total 36
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 11 Nov 22 10:40 debian_version
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 default/
4 drwxr-xr-x 3 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 dpkg/
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 9 Nov 22 10:40 host.conf
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 35 Nov 22 10:40 issue
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 28 Nov 22 10:40 issue.net
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 zeus zeus 21 Nov 22 10:40 os-release -> ../usr/lib/os-release
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 profile.d/
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 skel/
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 zeus zeus 4096 Nov 22 10:40 update-motd.d/
zeus@9600k:~/Downloads/base_files$ cat etc/debian_version
trixie/sid
zeus@9600k:~/Downloads/base_files$ cat etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_CODENAME=trixie
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"So there are the two files needed since the Devuan seems to keep debian_version at the Debian version only the os-release needs to be used. Copy the existing file to a backup and create a Debian version of it so you can easily switch back and forth between them.
root@9600k:~# cp /etc/os-release /etc/os-release.devuan
root@9600k:~# nano /etc/os-release.debian
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/os-release.debian
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_CODENAME=trixie
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"So there you will have two files in there that can be switched back and forth when needed, like I now have in case this problem crops up in anything I do.
#246 Re: Installation » dual-boot time-zone issues » 2025-01-24 19:48:18
Can you please show me an equivalent command to insert to achieve then the proper time that also withstands rebooting into the respective Operating systems_?
Follow the instructions below to fix the windows time, it make it use the UTC.
#247 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Would double bluetooth, module + mini pci-e, cause bluetooth problems? » 2025-01-23 04:43:22
Other possibility would be to block the 2.1 bluetooth module from terminal using rfkill and some syntax.
Or you could use the system default way of doing it. Create a file in the /etc/modprobe.d/ directory blacklisting the module to prevent it from even loading. No loading of the module no hardware in use to create any possibility of conflict. An example from the only file I found put on the system by the people at Debian.
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/modprobe.d/intel-microcode-blacklist.conf
# The microcode module attempts to apply a microcode update when
# it autoloads. This is not always safe, so we block it by default.
blacklist microcode#248 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Devuan Daedalus: /i386-pc/normal.mod not found » 2025-01-18 23:34:40
No, I haven't.
Not if I want to install Devuan to a USB stick to use with non-UEFI hardware.
As you have figured out their broken installer will not let you do that, you are stuck with the work around you have used. Just like I finally figured out last year why the damn thing does not respect your choice for the /boot/efi partition you get to set when using manual partitioning as I always do. The damn thing per-selects every efi partition in the system for use as an efi system partition. Unless you go to every single one of them and de-select your choice is ignored depending on its position in the drive listing on that page. If your drive is third in the list then you damn well better make certain that one and two is not selected or those will be used before your choice. If last in list with more drives then every other partition needs to be de-selected before your choice will be used.
#249 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Devuan Daedalus: /i386-pc/normal.mod not found » 2025-01-18 16:22:19
The problem also crops up with a Debian *.iso.
It appears you have solved the grub problem and as you mention good luck getting Debian people to do anything about it. Their "we care about our users" is nothing but words written down to make them feel better about themselves while doing exactly the opposite. They will ship known broken packages and do nothing to fix them because their policy says not to, unless of course they want to do the opposite then the fix gets made policy be damned. I have seen this hypocrisy in action for decades now.
#250 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Devuan Daedalus: /i386-pc/normal.mod not found » 2025-01-18 14:20:13
The purpose behind my wanting to install a very small footprint Devuan on small capacity SD/MicroSD cards was to
As they say around here " there is more than one way to skin a cat" no clue why they pick a cat but the gist of it is there is always more than one option. Go to the source Debian, get the netinstall .iso do a minimal install then convert it to Devuan. That is how I got it on the box the Devuan installer will not boot on my machine, actually I just cloned my machine's Debian install and did the conversion. You get to test if the changes made by Devuan are the problem or if the Debian installers are the problem. Or do the cloning I have suggested before.
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