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@pdbq
I was seeing the forum and I just found you just have the same problem as me xD
I had this problems using Devuan Excalibur, and I think that devs should fix this!
· Sound not working OOTB (in the Excalibur Releases notes, there are instructions on how to make Pipewire (sound) work), so this behaviour (sound not working OOTB) is intentional
·After doing just what I said, sometimes (in a 2 week use, 8h per day use, just happened 2 times), when connecting a 3.5mm jack headphones, devuan don't recognize it and it still plays audio via the laptop speakers. Rebooting system (not just close and open the session) solves this. I will troubleshoot this issue when I have time, and I think this thing has something to do with the installing and configuring pipewire that are on the Excalibur release notes.
· Discover not working OOTB, as you just have noticed. (seems to be produced by cache missing, or missing packages)
· Manual intervention of /etc/apt/sources.list to comment the CD/DVD source (if this isn't done, I can't update/upgrade packages).
I moved to Devuan because I read some things about Systemd that made me a little bit upset:
· It isn't even something related to an init bash, it's something bigger.
· It is like a black box, it does great things but for understanding what's inside, you need to know a lot.
I used Debian until I encountered with the final problem that made me change to Devuan: hibernation didn't worked on my laptop. After trying with a lot of distros, I found that happened on systems sith systemd. Tried Devuan and it worked! So idk, now I see systemd more like a bad thing, sure it does great things, but also bads...
@Elyon
Just tried another time to install Devuan with Plasma.
Only 2 categories of Plasma works, and those are "Applications complements" and "Plasma complements". My system is in spanish so I don't know if translations are accurate.
Thing is, I can't see any .deb on Discover, it displays a message "We haven't found anything" at every category (all apps, accesibility, science and engineering, etc...).
@rolfie
Yes, Devuan 6.1.0.
you must have denied using a mirror.
Humm no, in fact, I selected a mirror!
As I said,
the installer asked me if I wanted to add repos and I said yes.
(I did this installation a couple of days ago, so everything I'm writing is from memory; some things may not be spelled correctly).
Specifically, it asked me a country and a location, and I selected Spain, it showed me deb.devuan.org and es.deb.devuan.org (or something like that).
Selected deb.devuan.org, so I suppose that's why my sources.list is not empty with only the CD/DVD source writed.
@rolfie
Thank you for the answer.
When installing Devuan, the installer asked me if I wanted to add repos and I said yes. My sources.list, after booting to the fresh install, looks like this:
deb cdrom:[Devuan GNU/Linux 6.1.0 excalibur amd64 - desktop 20251225]/ excalibur contrib main non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main non-free-firmware
# excalibur-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main non-free-firmwareAfter trying to update via sudo apt update, apt warns be about not detecting a CD (the usb that I installed Devuan with) and halts. A '#' puted at the beginning of its line solves this.
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Thing is, Devuan detected that I have internet (asking me to connect to a wifi), it connects, then after a few steps, it asks me if I want to add sources (apart from the "CD/DVD" one). If I clicked yes to that, and Devuan doesn't automatically delete or comment with a '#', it means that something is not working as expected. When installing Debian Trixie, last step of installation is "Removing CD/DVD source from sources.list...", This doesn't happen to me on Devuan Excalibur.
If someone has the same problem I would be glad to know it, and if this only happens to me, I would investigate about this on my (little) free time. Thanks!
@Elyon
Next time I test Devuan with Plasma I'll try what you've said, but now I can't as I returned using Devuan with XFCE, on which sound works OOTB. Thanks for the help!
Good morning to all of you:
First of all, I didn't think that a lot of people would answer to me. Thank you for the attention.
Secondly, I have a few things to say:
I think that the better way to add things here, as users or as developers, is to be constructive. It isn't very useful to be aggresive or ignore other people.
Answering to you all:
@Elyon
If you guys would like to have OOB experience then I would suggest another distro like ZorinOS.
I would use distros like Zorin or LMDE, but hibernating my laptop is a must-do on choosing my distro, and I don't know why, with distros that uses systemd this seems to be unarchievable. Tried to solve it for weeks, with 2 different laptops, without any archievement.
Hibernating my laptop is not a whim, or a caprice; but a must-have, as I use my laptop on my uni without charging it and sometimes I need to stop using it temporarily.
@brocashelm
Or even Slackware
I would prefer to use a Debian derivative, just a personal choice. But, I have tried to install slackware, and I just gave up on the installation because itself selected an EFI partition to use that I didn't want. Maybe I was doing things wrong. Maybe someday I'll try Salix.
I guess you could say Kubuntu is OK if you don't mind Canonicalslop
In fact, I used Kubuntu for almost 3 years without distroswapping. The thing that made me change to Debian was that Ubuntu forced the use of Snap in their OS, so in my case, this affected me because a program (Spain's Gov. AutoFIrma) couldn't "sync" with FIrefox. After that I read about all Canonical's decisions and I really don't liked them at all.
@rations
Do you want pipewire or do you just want sound?
I would like to have sound without configuring anything at all. I mean, in other OOTB distros I don't have to choose between Pipewire or Pulseaudio. Normally that decision is the dev's one, and I've seen that almost all distros are defaulting to Pipeware, I hope for the best.
@swanson
Adjust the mirrors, check the tire pressures
Yes, normally after installing a distro is time to tinker it to have a configuration that makes you more confortable, like buying a car and adjusting it to you.
In my case, I think about that for things like: changing the theme, maybe the panels location, fonts, energy, display, etc... but sound is like a basic thing, imagin, using your same example, that you buy a car and the lights don't work. Yes, you can drive a car without lights. Yes, you can use your computer without sounds, It will be more difficult, or less confortable using it? Maybe. @steve_v said a better analogy with "crawl into the footwell and connect the wiring for the radio".
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Thing is, right now I am using Excalibur with XFCE as my main OS. Almost all work OOTB, including audio. Telling that audio don't work on Plasma was just a comment, i was just trying KDE Plasma.
I don't have a lot of free time as I need to go to uni and study, but sure, if I had the time, I would really love to contribute to this wonderful project that is Devuan. I like a lot the philosophy that has UNIX that is that a program will do one thing and do it well.
Thank you all for all the comments!
Props to all the admins and developers that contribute to this distro in their free time and without a regular salary! (I suppose)
Please don't hate each other, team up and don't give up
!
@golinux I would happily create and mantain a better solution for Devuan, but I'm not a dev. As a final, end-user of Devuan, I was just saying that it surprises me the fact that in order to get sound working on Devuan, I need to edit two files manually (~/.profile and ~/.xsessionrc) in order to get working, for example, pipewire.
Just imagine doing that by default on Debian! I suppose that thing didn't happen before Debian defaulted to systemd, so this is an indicator that either
1) something could have been done incorrectly in Devuan, or
2) Devuan is not just "Debian without systemd. Full stop."
Perhaps you would like to provide and maintain a better solution for Devuan?
Nothing personal, really, but “passing the buck” instead of taking responsibility and trying to understand the person who points out the problem feels a bit condescending, assuming you are a devuan admin, please correct me if im wrong. English is not my first language so sorry for the errors.
See the release notes and the relevant thread argument.
Thank you for the answer, steve_v. I would mark this as solved but I see doing what says in the release notes more like a workaround (but more robust than the .sh I wrote before) than a proper solution that needs to be addressed upstream, by devuan devs and not by the final users.
I mean, I supposed that Devuan was, like Debian or other "mainstream" distros, a distro ready to use, or at least, without inconsistencies, which is not the case... so Devuan devs think that we as final users of the distro we need to configure manually these type of things? Or I am wrong thinking about Devuan being a mainstream distro, and in reality is a distro for advance users?
Thank you all for the answers.
Good afternoon,
On Devuan Excalibur, Discover (KDE's gui front-end for apt) don't work, showing a message that says that there is no internet connection.
This problem has been seen by some people since a sometime (see https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5892 or https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7782 or https://www.reddit.com/r/devuan/comment … tl=es-419)
Why this happens and how it can be corrected upstream by Devuan creators?
Sorry as english is not my first language, and I don't know a lot about Linux. Thank you for your patience and time!
Good afternoon,
I've noticed that after installing Devuan Excallibur, I manually need to comment (or delete) the line that begins with deb-cdrom on the /etc/apt/sources.list file.
If I don't do that, I will not be able to update the system, as apt warns me about this.
Why the line that begins with "deb-cdrom" is not automatically commented or deleted just after the system is installed, like other distros? I mean, why do I need to do this manually?
Thank you for you patience and help.
Good afternoon,
As the topic says, I'm unable to find any installation of Devuan Excalibur with KDE Plasma DE on which sound works out of the box.
I don't have the needed knowledge to know what produces this, and I'm tired of investigating about that, so any help is welcome
Troubleshoot I've done:
-> Sound works out of the box when installing Devuan Excalibur with XFCE DE
-> Sound DON'T work installing Devuan with Plasma DE with any init, including SysVinit, OpenRC or runit.
There are installed some Pipewire, alsa and pulseaudio packages, so I don't think that don't having X package is the problem.
On Plasma, I've tried this by reading some similar new topics on this forum, that allows to sound to work. On a fresh-installed Devuan Excalibur Plasma system:
-> Create a .sh file, for example pipewire.sh
-> Write on that file the next:
#!/bin/bash
wireplumber &
pipewire &
pipewire-pulse &
-> Make that file executable
-> Run terminal on pipewire.sh location folder, then inside it, run ./pipewire
Sound should work right now. To make that works everytime session is booted: System Settings -> Autostart -> Add New, then select the .sh file you created before.
So, I like to know why something work or don't work on my system, and I am very surprised that this thing (dont having sound work out of the box) dont affect to some people, except someone here for example (https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7776).
Help is very apreciated, as I have looked for a solution for weeks and I'm tired up. I'm using Devuan as I can't hibernate my laptop with Systemd, and I liked a lot using Devuan with XFCE, but I need to use a Qt based DE because I almost only use Qt apps, and personally I like more Plasma... please, I would like to know why this problem happens to me and where does it comes from, I like to know why things happen!
UPDATE: if I log off, sound will not work unless I run manually ./pipeware.sh on a terminal. Pleasee help ![]()
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