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#1 Re: Installation » post install: cdrom error - .iso image as a primary apt source » 2023-07-03 18:57:22

rolfie wrote:

Please note: non-free-firmware is relevant from Bookworm/Daedalus onward.

Seems correct as I received

(component misspelt in sources.list?)

in Chimaera. hmm

#3 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installing with a separate /home partition » 2023-06-21 21:06:36

That's what I also wanted to advise: try the netinstall.iso or desktop.iso. They re not eqquipped with live desktop, but the installer fires up from the start. I usually use live-desktop.iso to create/resize partitions and in then use desktop.iso to choose the options I need. When choosing manual partitioning (point 9) you can select each partition and tell the installer to "not use it". Then follow @fsmithred advice above. From what you are writing you should have not much problem with it. And even when you encounter any you can abort and return for assistance.

#4 Re: Installation » post install: cdrom error - .iso image as a primary apt source » 2023-06-21 13:28:21

Hope the below looks much less a mess:

deb [trusted=yes] file:/mnt/dvn-dvd-only/ chimaera contrib main non-free 
deb [trusted=yes] file:/mnt/dvn-pool1-only/ chimaera main 

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera main contrib non-free 
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera main contrib non-free 

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-updates main contrib non-free 
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-updates main contrib non-free 

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-security main contrib non-free 
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-security main contrib non-free 

No apt pinning was required from my POV as this order automagically prefers file: type sources even though all of the sources above are considered as 500 priority (apt-cache policy to verify). Of course I mounted as CD-ROMs both iso files to make this setting work permanently so I dropped them in my users-disk-space, made two additional directories (under /mnt) and added to /etc/fstab:

/home/myusername/apt/devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso /mnt/dvn-dvd-only udf,iso9660 loop 0 0
/home/myusername/apt/devuan_chimaera_4.1_0_amd64_pool1.iso /mnt/dvn-pool1-only udf,iso9660 loop 0 0

and installed devuan-keyring.

#5 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installing with a separate /home partition » 2023-06-21 13:17:24

Two cents from me on manual partioning:

  • The partition layout above for manual partioning is lacking one ESP partition for bootloader:

    • FAT32 filesystem, some 100-500MB capacity

Then on installation: use as ESP, bootable flag: on

The point 4.3 on https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … a/live-gui illustrates almost your desired layout. Additionally select "home on separate" option in point 3.1. Your existing partition with user data should be present on the layout presented in the point 4.3, so add to it /home mountpoint and make sure it is confirmed on the 8.2 summary screen.

#6 Re: Installation » post install: cdrom error - .iso image as a primary apt source » 2023-06-16 21:47:49

ralph.ronnquist wrote:
deb [trusted=yes] file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera contrib main non-free non-free-firmware

smile Perfect! This one removed all the warnings.

PS.What does non-free-firmware add? Anything described in these proposals?

#7 Re: Installation » post install: cdrom error - .iso image as a primary apt source » 2023-06-16 21:22:25

fsmithred wrote:

It might be possible to do that by pinning online sources to lower priority than the file or dvd source. Then you would need to specify the online source with the -t option to get packages from there.

Great, I will try to read and use Always_prefer_packages_from_a_repository.

fsmithred wrote:

As time goes on, any packages you pull from online sources will be more likely to need newer versions of associated packages that are in the dvd source, so that the package in the dvd won't be installable.

Right, the whole concept in this topic seems quite short-term. But may be useful initially.

#8 Re: Installation » post install: cdrom error - .iso image as a primary apt source » 2023-06-16 12:46:15

rolfie wrote:

Before we go into details: what do you really want? Be able to be online and getting updates via internet connection? Or do you want to ban the internet and only depend on the DVD? You seem to have a mixture in your sources.list.

Right, it does not reflect clearly my current interest, I would like to profit from the files in the install iso I downloaded for hours, especially if they are proven compliant with all the other components of the system at the time they were published. Therefore I would like to know if it is possible to configure package management so as it first pulls packages requested by user from the install cd(s) and then only if not present or outdated downloads data from the central repository (mirrors).
If such "dual" configuration is not possible, then I would like to know how to properly configure /etc/apt/sources.list to use file: sources correctly and on the other hand, how to properly configure http:/ sources.

#9 Re: Installation » post install: cdrom error - .iso image as a primary apt source » 2023-06-15 19:00:34

golinux wrote:

Echo . . . yes, that sources.list is a mess. Please have a look at this page:
https://devuan.org/os/packages

I decided to address this in a separate post as I expierienced much confusion, but not only in my /etc/apt/sources.list, but also in the https://www.devuan.org/os/packages you mentioned. It's some way off topic of my question but might be widely useful eventually.

1. First I could read there

Default configurations
Devuan 4.0 Chimaera (stable)

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera          main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates  main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main

2. A few lines below

Add stable updates for fast release packages (default: no)

updates integrate important changes from upstream. Packages in updates will be part of the next stable point release, but are safe to upgrade right away. If you’re using an antivirus and other similar packages that require up-to-date information, you should activate this repository.

# /etc/apt/sources.list

deb     http://deb.devuan.org/merged <release codename>-updates main
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged <release codename>-updates main

Therefore I find it hard to decide whether source packages are required or not in devuan, which is default or not, and am looking for more distinct instruction on the expected content of /etc/apt/sources.list. Its post-install content is available in the first post of this topic.

#10 Installation » post install: cdrom error - .iso image as a primary apt source » 2023-06-15 16:27:34

kur-ka
Replies: 14

I installed successfully on a plain Acer SF114 laptop from devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso

On apt-get update encountered an

error: Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Devuan GNU/Linux 4.0 chimaera amd64 - desktop 20211012' ...

After realizing that it is not me but the devuan installer thinking it is still in the times of Pentium 4 and expects me to browse through some CDs collection, I decided to permanently store the install .iso file on the internal ssd and point the /etc/apt/sources.list to it. I followed the steps described on https://novicenolonger.com/using-a-debi … rces-list/, so as now my /etc/apt/sources.list reads:

deb file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera contrib main non-free 

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-security main contrib non-free 
deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-security main contrib non-free 

I have almost succeeded but on another

 # apt-get update
Get:1 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera InRelease
Ign:1 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera InRelease
Get:2 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release [657 kB]
Get:2 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release [657 kB]
Get:3 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release.gpg
Ign:3 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release.gpg
Hit:4 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security InRelease
Reading package lists... Done                           
E: The repository 'file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release' is not signed.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.

So after reading the manpage mentioned above I edited a line in /etc/apt/sources.list to

deb [allow-insecure=yes] file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera contrib main non-free

However after another attempt of

 # apt-get update
Get:1 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera InRelease
Ign:1 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera InRelease
Get:2 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release [657 kB]
Get:2 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release [657 kB]
Get:3 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release.gpg
Ign:3 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release.gpg
Get:4 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera/contrib amd64 Packages [18.4 kB]
Get:5 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera/main amd64 Packages [3,816 kB]
Get:6 file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera/non-free amd64 Packages [49.4 kB]
Hit:7 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
W: The repository 'file:/mnt/dev-dvd-only chimaera Release' is not signed.
N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.

...I steel feel criticized. Is there any more correct way to make apt use install iso?

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