Hello,

just migrated my desktop machine to devuan/ceres after short usage of mylinux-21 (migrated from debian/sid) and I'm very pleased with the work done by the Devuan devs hoping to stick with it for a long time!

There is one problem I'm experiencing when msmtp tries to access password stored by libsecret from the gnome-keyring...

Hee is the output I get when trying to test email with msmtp:

$ echo "hello there" | msmtp -v -a default some-email@gmail.com
ignoring system configuration file /etc/msmtprc: No such file or directory
loaded user configuration file /home/user/.msmtprc
secret-tool: Cannot spawn a message bus when setuid
msmtp: cannot read output of 'secret-tool lookup user someuser'

However, just retrieving passwd from the store does work:

$ secret-tool lookup user someuser
paswdxyzsfsdfd

The bug is reported here and apparently fixed in version gnome-keyring/40.0-3, but there is problem due to missing dbususer-session package - see the comment, so wonder what is possible workaround besides using some other password-storing/retrieving mechanism?

Let me  add that the same setup was working under MXlinux/sysvinit...

Hello,

I moved away from Debian and on both of my machines put Devuan/ceres/runit. Now I see that some runit scripts are missing, so consider that it is maybe wiser to revert to sysvinit until runit becomes more popular since atm I do not have lot of time doing admin work, so wonder what would be procedure to migrate from runit to sysvinit?

Hello.

I'm running Xfce under Debian Sid and, after sorting out some problems with Devuan on my spare (netbook) machine, I'd like to migrate my desktop to Devuan as well. Now, in the docs there is info how to migrate from "stable" from Debian to Devuan, so I wonder what do you think about doing the same for "unstable" which could save me quite some time or is it better/recommended to do fresh-install, update to Ceres and then do restoration work?