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It must be. With no nvidia or nouveau driver it seems some distros react by not being able to start X. I'm pretty sure Salix must now run the intel chip as nouveau has been purged, which is fine for this installation which I only use for internet and word processing. Got RegataOS for gaming, this is a gaming distro based on OpenSUSE. The glitches with nouveau seem to occur with all distros. This laptop has a 17" screen, I normally use external monitor when gaming. Then it runs both screens and the external must be set as main.
Yes, that was quite impressive by Rolfie Now, you can remove multimedia repo from POS but I guess you still may run into problems because of stuff from there already present when you install. Anyway on this machine it has the same issue as Devuan: if you disable nouveau X does not start at all.
You may well ask why repos not work, it actually threw an error i have never seen before, it actually said 'no access' - and this happened repeatedly over a couple days. I'm guessing it must still have been some temporary hiccup. Ok, I tried the smaller iso images just for fun and because most of the available usb drives I have here are 1 gb SD cards. Minimal live: no gui, X did not start. is this by design? There were some errors and the installation failed. Must say I find the refracta installer quite horrible, both gui and cli version. Tried the Debian installer iso, that gave an installation that gave a kernel panic trying to boot. The live iso with GUI refracta installer gave an installer that did not boot into X. This machine, an MSI Katana gaming laptop seems a bit difficult for this distro with its dual video card setup (rtx 1650 mobile and integrated intel video). If neither nvidia or nouveau work it should still start X with the intel video but that does not work (nouveau gives glitches with the card so I blacklist it). Ok, I ended up with Salix 15 (i.e Slackware but with gui tools, this also uses SysVinit). Nvidia did not install (salix uses the installer from nvidia), nouveau got uninstalled and this is able to use the intel video which works fine. I have a Devuan install on an old desktop, a gaming tower from around 2008 that I got used. No problems there. So thanks, see you later.
Thanks will try that.
I used the setup that came with the installation, no tinkering. Peppermint is very neatly set up so I did not think something like that could be missing. Also in my experience it is a bad idea to leave debian multimedia or backports repo activated, this will lead to system instability. I prefer to activate them, install what I want and deactivate. So I tried first to use the system without the multimedia repo - and ruined that installation trying to purge all nvidia and nouveau packages after it turned out to be difficult to get rid of them - the nvidia standalone installer kept compaining
Peppermint Devuan has a 6.1 kernel - is that the same as stock Devuan?
This may not apply here as it happened when I installed the Peppermint OS Devuan version.
Problem: debian multimedia repo not working, error being: no access to repo/packages.
Apparently this leads to the nvidia proprietary driver packages (and I'm sure other stuff) being uninstallable.
This driver is needed as nouveau does not play nice at all with the rtx 1650 mobile chip in this MSI Katana.
Just wondered if anyone had any suggestions, I have not tried vanilla Devuan yet as the isos do not run off my Ventoy usb stick
BTW I successfully upgraded a (non-production of course) antiX 18 installation to Beowulf.
There were only some minor problems. As I needed a 'daily driver' it got replaced with Artix OpenRC Xfce.
Personally, I don't use display managers, so starting the X session via command line is simple enough for me. I remember liking LXDM a lot, and as far as I can recall, it's not at all affected by Systemd.
The uber coolest of all login managers is WDM - (GnuStep - Windowmaker based). GUI selection of WMs and DEs and all, and it is maintained I believe.
Seems playing around with openrc is best done in Artix. Just tried it on my laptop and their setup is really good. Networkmanager apparently runs with no problems f.ex (have not tried it yet as the live cd comes with Conman) Somewhat less bleeding edge than Arch itself - they say because their server fills up - maybe a joke
A quick look did not reveal anything. It is not a problem so I think i will just ignore it. The messages about it are done in 1 sec ..
Correct, not supported.
This seems to be because Debian has made some changes that made it more difficult to use another init than systemd.
My system was MX-18, not antiX. Of course a dist-upgrade to a different distro is not supported. But upgrading to Beowulf may be less problematic than dist-upgrading to 19.
I did get a number of issues but they were fixable.
Tried fsck and it said the same: recovering journal, fs clean.
So i guess what I need is the correct shutdown code for the terminal that will spell out for the system to shut down the fs correctly?
This is a somewhat unusual installation - dist-upgrade from an antiX-MX 18 (Debian Stretch) installation to Beowulf.
Two reasons for doing this: it had some problems, minor random desktop freezes, and I just wanted to see if this was possible.
it was, I got a fully working system and some of the small problems actually disappeared.
The upgrade process was somewhat complicated of course.
One thing i don't quite understand is that i now get 'recovering journal' on every reboot. Then 'dev/sdc1 clean'.
Have checked the SSD with various tools: it is in perfect shape, many write cycles left.
So no actual problem and I just ignore this.
But if i wanted to look into changing this, where do I look?
PATH is still messed up, most commands don't work in console.
The export path command only fixes it until next reboot. Well, I can find workarounds for the few things I need the console for.
Other than that the installation is very stable and stuff works.
Found a weird bashrc in the root folder, replaced it with the one in /etc/skel and manually added the normal folders for executables, just to be sure. Now Synaptic etc start from terminal. Audio file playback speed sorted itself out after a reboot. Looking good for a beta
Sorry This installation is a bit weird. Now it refuses to run Synaptic, says command not found in terminal.. I'll get it sorted. Sheesh .. now music files are playing double speed.. Not boring anyway
Seems there are changes to Debian buster that affect the command line.
For some reason they have messed up the PATH variable for root so things like dpkg-reconfigure no longer work.
This error was carried over to my netinst installation (Debian ncurses installer from usb stick).
That has to be fixed, confusing for the user.
And please include wvdial in a standard install with DE and Wicd, so useful if you only have an usb 4G modem.
Simple question:
Is Devuan Buster Beta ready for home use now or what? :=)
Cheers.
Great. Such hybrid installs are often problematic. No other issues?
Wvdial is a very effective tool and in fact easy to use. The antiX devs made a config file generator for it that works fine - my config file I think I just copied from the net.
The reason I use it is that Networkmanager/nm-applet stopped working with my Huawei 4g modem (it worked for several years without problems).
Then there are not so many options. Getting hold of the files manually is not hard at all just a hassle. Debian Jessie versions ought to work without modification.
Thanks! yes of course. Yes, it has 2-3 deps.
it is in this package search page https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ … 1-4.1.html
These files are very small and it would help people with only a 4g modem connection if they were in the live image.
The only distros I have seen that include them are antiX (systemd free light Debian) and Salix. But debian/ubuntu debs should work - I cannot find a way to get the debs from the devuan repo before I have the system online. Not a major problem. Debian oldstable debs should be fine and easy to download manually.
This is not in the live system and I have only a 4g modem connection here.
I would need to manually download it and deps and install either in live or after install.
Is it possible to find and devuan packages on the internet (I just use some debian/ubuntu debs I guess)
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