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#1 Re: Other Issues » Clear logs » 2024-02-18 17:01:58

>filename is the quickest way to empty a file. Or cat /dev/null >filename if you want it to be more readable.

#2 Re: Other Issues » Extracting a .zip file absolutely destroys my CPU. » 2024-02-18 16:58:19

Could the system be overheating? Check for dust etc in the CPU cooler, vents, etc. Going over the system with a vacuum cleaner can make quite a difference. As can removing obstructions to air flow etc.

You could run watch sensors in one window to see how hot the system is getting.

Or free -mt or vmstat to see how much paging it's doing.

#3 Re: Other Issues » 2 CPU threads went offline and wont come back » 2024-02-18 16:50:29

What sort of CPU do you have? Is it 4 real cores or 2 cores with hypertheads?

Just post full output from lscpu if you are not sure of the answers.

And what make is the system? Can you see any clues in the BIOS?

#4 Re: Installation » Daedelus install on Lenovo T480 boots, locks up. » 2024-02-12 17:19:53

Any form of SSH is unfortunately way above my pay-grade (of clueless mouse-molester).

It's worth learning about. Assuming you have the same userid on both your systems just try ssh laptop on the desktop or vice versa (replace "laptop" with the IP address of the laptop if you havn't set up DNS or /etc/hosts entries for it). Reply y (or yes) to the prompt about accepting the host key, then it should ask you for your password.

If it hangs for a bit then times out ping the target to check the IP address is right.

That should get you started. man ssh will tell you lot more if you need to know more. Eg about how to copy files between the systems with scp or sftp.

#5 Re: Installation » Daedelus install on Lenovo T480 boots, locks up. » 2024-02-10 16:52:06

A few things to try to recover from the lockup:

Does ctrl-alt-F1 get back to a text console? Try it before the lockup or on another distro, you should have six text consoles (ctrl-alt-F1 to ctrl-alt-F6) and ctrl-alt-F7 would take you back to the GUI.

If you have another system can you log onto the Lenovo T480 over the network by ssh (or possibly telnet)? If you can you could use the ssh session to investigate (px -ef, dmesg, tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log etc) or shut it down relatively gently.

#6 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Can't connect to repos » 2024-02-09 17:23:11

Try host which should get something like: is an alias for has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has address has IPv6 address 2407:b6c0::12 has IPv6 address 2a01:4f9:2a:fa9::2 has IPv6 address 2801:82:80ff:8000::2 has IPv6 address 2a01:4f8:140:1102:2b76:955d:b48f:bdf3 has IPv6 address 2001:878:346::116 has IPv6 address 2001:4ca0:4300::1:19 has IPv6 address 2800:a8:c001::a has IPv6 address 2001:e42:102:1704:160:16:137:156 has IPv6 address 2607:5300:61:95f:7283:11d9:f86:e691 has IPv6 address 2001:4190:801c:1::150 has IPv6 address 2a03:4000:28:24c:: has IPv6 address 2a0d:eb00:8006::acab has IPv6 address 240b:10:f00:1b00::240 has IPv6 address 2a02:2a38:1:400:2a42:2a42:2a42:2a42 has IPv6 address 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 has IPv6 address 2a0a:e5c0:10:3::6eeb has IPv6 address 2a01:9e40::180

Then ping and see if that gets a response. If it does you should be OK. If not your DNS settings or network must be faulty.

#7 Re: Freedom Hacks » Securing my/our computer systems » 2024-02-09 17:15:08

One security resource I follow is (Bruce Schneier's web site). It's one of the more trustworthy sites.

Another is (I learnt a lot about Linux security from the book).

#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] OpenRC warning during screen log at rebooting or turning off pc » 2024-02-09 17:01:33

All I can think of is looking in /etc/rc.local (that gets called at the end of each runlevel, but normally does nothing).

Apart from that I've run out of ideas for what could be calling kmod. So I'd suggest ignoring the message, the script doesn't do anything when called with the stop parameter.

#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] OpenRC warning during screen log at rebooting or turning off pc » 2024-02-06 17:09:47

You don't need to use cat for any of those commands. Try:

grep -i "(EE)\|(??)|fail \|segfault" /home/glenn/.xsession-errors
grep -i "(WW)\|(EE)\|(??)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
tail /var/log/syslog 

Which should get you the same results, but slightly faster.

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] OpenRC warning during screen log at rebooting or turning off pc » 2024-02-05 17:06:32

Exactly when does that message come out? Is it when you boot the system, log on, log off or shut it down?

less /etc/init.d/kmod should tell you what kmod is (unless all the comments are missing).

Try this:

ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*kmod*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May  9  2018 /etc/rcS.d/S09kmod -> ../init.d/kmod

You should get only 1 line, a symlink that tells the OS to run kmod start when bringing the system up. I suspect you have a stop link somewhere (it will be probably named something like K09kmod).

For belt and braces try ls -l /etc/rc?.d/ | grep kmod which searches the destination of the symlink. If still stuck grep meaningless /etc/rc?.d/* in case there is a stray copy of kmod somewhere.

#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] OpenRC warning during screen log at rebooting or turning off pc » 2024-02-04 17:18:23

When does the Action 'stop' is meaningless for this init script ... (warning) message come out?
If it appears on screen while you are booting or shutting down what messages appear before and after it.
On my (old) system cd /etc/init.d/ and grep meaningless * returned:
kmod:  log_warning_msg "Action '$1' is meaningless for this init script"

So looking in /etc/init.d/kmod might help. But do check as above to see if any other script could be generating it.

#12 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » StartX doesn't work after a fresh install (segmentation fault 0x20) » 2024-02-02 17:14:42

cat /proc/cmdline should also show the boot command line. On my system it matches the entry for the last boot in /var/log/syslog

#13 Re: Packaging for Devuan » expr from coreutils throws an error » 2024-01-20 17:19:22

This should give some more info:
which expr
On my system it's /usr/bin/expr (substitute below if it's not there). There might be an old version somewhere.
ls -l /usr/bin/expr
file /usr/bin/expr
ldd /usr/bin/expr

Post results here if that doesn't get you any further.

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-05 17:15:24

I would *assume* that a merged /usr would have moved everything in /sbin to /usr/sbin and replaced /sbin with a symlink to /usr/sbin (and similar for /bin, /lib, etc). But that's probably too simple for the designers to think of.

#15 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fresh Installation of Devuan Wifi Not Working & Grub Issue » 2024-01-04 17:27:25

You should only quote the part of the post you are responding to, if that's not obvious from context.

The only case for quoting all of a post is a small (~1 line) post several posts back in the thread to indicate which post you are responding to.

#16 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [Found another way] Disable ipv6 using Grub - new wrinkle » 2023-12-24 17:17:56

Is there a /install/gtk/initrd.gz in your / or /boot ? If there's a /initrd.img on your system is it a symlink to somewhere?

I'm not an expert, but I know that the system loads an initrd.img early in boot processing (possibly compressed). So I'd expect that entry to point to the one the system should use. So removing that entry might stop your system booting.

Does your /etc/default/grub say anything like:

# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:
#   info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'

If so try that.

#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Dozens of lxqt-config-monitor processes are started » 2023-12-15 16:57:59

Good. I hope that gets a response, I've reached the limit of my debugging skills in this area.

#18 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Dozens of lxqt-config-monitor processes are started » 2023-12-14 17:01:40

Post that to the github discussion. It might point then towards the bug. (Sorry if you'e already done that).

#19 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Dozens of lxqt-config-monitor processes are started » 2023-12-13 17:33:52

zombie processes are processes that have been terminated, but not reaped by their parent. So look at the PPID (3339 in the first post) with ps -fp 3339 (replace 3339 which whatever the current PPID is). That should tell you what started them, which is probably where the bug is.

See man ps and search for zombie for details.

#20 Re: ARM Builds » Help, upgrading fails » 2023-11-30 17:25:06

Is there a /boot directory? I assume you are running as root so will be able to write to /boot

That's all I can think of, but sometimes checking silly things can find silly problems.

#21 Re: Installation » in a way related to installation or at least Devuan » 2023-11-30 17:14:55

nahkhiirmees wrote:

Since there are no colors with "ls" inside xfce's terminal

Run alias
On my system the last line of output is

alias ls='ls --color=auto'

And my .bashrc sets that. I hope this gives you a clue.

#22 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Sylpheed no longer working » 2023-11-18 17:19:25

What happens if you tell it to use instead of ? I have one system using kmail where it insists on using the wrong type of auth for but I can get it to work with (it's kmail being "clever" that causes the problem). I can't check details on that system just now though, sorry.

That took quite a lot of puzzling to work out.

#23 Re: Installation » nvidia-legacy-390 » 2023-11-09 16:57:02

It depends what your old graphics cards are. And if you just want them for screen display or want to use CUDA.

Obviously "nvidia-legacy-390" will only be needed for Nvidia cards. And it will be needed for CUDA.

I'd suggest trying out a live DVD/USB which doesn't have those drivers but does have nouveau. Or post a list of what cards you have.

#24 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Strange filemanager behaviour » 2023-10-06 16:07:33

Altoid wrote:

But the locate result came up repeatedly, seems that it could find the hidden files.

From man locate
locate reads one or more databases prepared by updatedb(8) and writes file names matching at least one of the PATTERNs to standard output, one per line.

So if updatedb ran when the filesystem was not mounted it would find the "hidden" files and put them into the database. So running locate repeatedly would always show them, until the next updatedb run.

#25 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Strange filemanager behaviour » 2023-10-05 16:30:17

I think what fstab says may be a red herring. What seems to have happened is that the mount point is a directory in your root filesystem, and some files and directories have been moved into there when the /media/storage filesystem is not mounted.

To recover I suggest:
df -k /media/storage
If the filesystem is mounted there unmount it, and re-check with df -k /media/storage to make sure it's not mounted now.
As root:
cd /media
ls -al
Make sure there is not a storage2 dir already!
mv storage storage2
mkdir storage
Then storage2 will contain all the recovered data and the process of mounting the filesystem when needed should still work.

I've had to get at data buried under a mount point *without* unmounting the filesystem. But I would not recommend doing that unless you fully understand the process (NFS doesn't cross mountpoints, so mounting the root filesystem via NFS lets you get there. But it's a tricky process.)

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