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#1 Re: Other Issues » enigmail broken since upgrade of Thunderbird to 52.2.1-4~dev8u1 » 2017-08-01 21:18:52

I was thinking about the problem of having this change overwritten during the next upgrade, but I think to remember that the upgrade process would at least inform me.
My problem with the wrapper is to find all references of all users to /usr/bin/thunderbird, so I gave this way a try. And re-adding this "patch" is a quick job smile
Let's see how soon I will change to the wrapper-script...

#2 Re: Other Issues » enigmail broken since upgrade of Thunderbird to 52.2.1-4~dev8u1 » 2017-08-01 20:44:26

I just made a quick test. I have a VM with ascii just to evaluate stuff - not for real use. I just installed TB and enigmail from scratch and it was working, the passphrase pop-up was provided gnome-pinentry3.

#3 Re: Other Issues » enigmail broken since upgrade of Thunderbird to 52.2.1-4~dev8u1 » 2017-08-01 20:28:06

Seems as we are similar refugees smile
I just tried your solution and - as expected - it is working.
But to simplify stuff, I didn't create a wrapper-script, /usr/bin/thunderbird is already a wrapper script. I just added the

unset GPG_AGENT_INFO

after line 38.
I also had a look at the Debian issue (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=784289). The reporter closed the issue because after the upgrade to GnuPG 2.1.4 it is working again. In ascii, there is GnuPG 2.1.18 available, perhaps this solved the issue?

#4 Re: Other Issues » enigmail broken since upgrade of Thunderbird to 52.2.1-4~dev8u1 » 2017-08-01 14:26:01

Cool, thanks a lot for your detailed instructions. I will try those asap on my machines. BTW: I have the same setup, I'm also using MATE since it is available as packages - and was using Gnome2 before smile

#5 Re: Other Issues » enigmail broken since upgrade of Thunderbird to 52.2.1-4~dev8u1 » 2017-08-01 08:49:23

Thanks for your answers. I do have everything installed using .deb-Packages (I try to install nearly everything from packages because my hope is, that upgrades are as smooth as possible smile )
Before I made an upgrade on an additional machine, I had a quick look and realized, enigmail 1.8.2 was installed as "amd64" and the amd64 package is still on 1.8.2 in debian. Enigmail 1.9.8 is only available as "all" package and this might explain why it was not upgraded - though in my opinion, there should be at least a transitional package enigmail-amd64 to automate the process. But this seems as a Debian issue to me.
Thank you for your hint about the problem of encrypting messages. Until now, I just tried to decrypt messages and as soon as I got this running, I thought to have solved the issue. I can't verify right now, but I will as soon as possible.
I'm not sure staying at TB 45.8 is a good solution, since the upgrade is marked as a security-upgrade.
Did you have a look at https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=topic&id=14 - it did not work for me, but perhaps it helps you smile

#6 Other Issues » enigmail broken since upgrade of Thunderbird to 52.2.1-4~dev8u1 » 2017-07-31 18:38:30

afuerst
Replies: 11

During the last upgrades, I received the security-upgrade for Thunderbird for version 52.2.1-4~dev8u1.
But this version if Thunderbird is incompatible to enigmail 1.8.2. In Debian-Security, enigmail 1.9.8.1-1~deb8u1 is available, but I don't get this as an update. After downloading this from debian and installing it, it was working again.
Additional info: This brought up a new issue (incompatibility between gnome-keyring and gnupg), but this is (at the moment) just an annoying and optical issue (Details: https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=topic&id=14 / "How to Fix it" / 4.).
Does anyone know why enigmail is not updated automatically? Might a configuration issue on my machines be a reason?

Armin

#7 Devuan » Status of releases and details of packages » 2017-07-25 12:36:13

afuerst
Replies: 2

Please don't misinterpret my question as impatient or as criticism, I'm just curious!
You did a very good job on providing a systemd-free distribution and I already switched most of my clients to Devuan.

I'm sure, you already have plans for my questions, but I didn't find the answers even though I was looking around:

1. Do you plan a page comparable to "http://packages.debian.org/"? I regularly have the need to find which package a specific file is inside. As long as I use jessie, the results from Debian will be good enough, but I assume as soon as I switch to ascii, there will be no workaround.

2. Do you plan an overview of the status of the releases? For example: just because I'm curious, I created a VM, made a fresh install of jessie and upgraded to ascii. I have the feeling ascii is far from being stable (which is not surprising me!), but I don't find a place I could verify my feeling.

Armin

#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE Desktop - Suspend and Hibernate buttons missing » 2017-05-17 19:52:59

greenjeans wrote:

Obsession works pretty good for this, I added some custom keyboard-shortcuts and added them to the conky display on my system so they are always handy.

I assume this is an option to initiate the suspend? More beautiful than sending the dbus-command, but still this would need a regularly running cronjob (which I would prefer to avoid).

GNUser wrote:

I also use MATE and was missing the Suspend option in the shutdown dialog. I don't use Hibernate.

Thanks, this looks also nice - but the main issue is the "lid-is-closed". My family will never initiate suspend manually - they even don't know what it is smile. For them it's as simple as "lid closed = off", "lid open = on".

#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE Desktop - Suspend and Hibernate buttons missing » 2017-05-16 20:45:07

greenjeans wrote:

I'm actually working on that right now, as i'm building a mate mini at the moment.

Thanks for the great news. I followed the instructions (if someone else tries to follow: the package is named "xfce4-power-manager") and I have the XFCE Power Manager in my Preferences Menu available. As you have mentioned: the "close lid" stuff is unresolved (I already thought about a cron job checking the lid status every minute and sending the dbus if it is closed smile )

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE Desktop - Suspend and Hibernate buttons missing » 2017-05-16 18:29:31

golinux wrote:

The showstopper is Mate not Devuan.  wink

I don't want to fingerpoint anyone (you could also argument Debian is the showstopper because of making systemd the default init system) - I just need a solution so I can migrate the main laptop to Devuan. AFAIK I have to switch to Devuan as long as I am using jessie, there won't be a migration path from stretch (and I have a feeling why this would be too much effort).

#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE Desktop - Suspend and Hibernate buttons missing » 2017-05-16 16:32:24

greenjeans wrote:

Afuerst: This has been a bug on and off for literally years, apparently there is an on-again off-again issue with upower and mate-power-manager.

I wasn't aware of this fact - I am using MATE nearly since it is available and never had the problem.

AntoFox wrote:

some users have also problem with the icon battery, with mate 1.14 this small problem are solved

I also have the issue with the battery icon, but I resolved this by hiding the icon from power-management and putting "Battery Charge Monitor" instead. Does MATE 1.14 solve only the battery issue or also the Suspend/Hibernate issue?
If not: does someone know a workaround? I'm using Linux on all my machines and they are in use by the whole family. They won't care about technical stuff, they just close the lid and expect the system to suspend. On the main laptop I still have Debian jessie installed (suspend working there) and not even having a workaround is a showstopper for migrating to Devuan sad

#12 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE Desktop - Suspend and Hibernate buttons missing » 2017-05-15 20:08:03

@AntoFox: Exactly this was what I was trying to describe without a screenshot smile

#13 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE Desktop - Suspend and Hibernate buttons missing » 2017-05-15 20:01:31

mate-about pops up a window with:

MATE Desktop Environment 1.8.1
MATE is a Free, usable, stable, accessible desktop environment for the Unix-like family of operating systems.
Copyright © 1997-2011 GNOME developers
Copyright © 2011 Perberos
Copyright © 2012-2014 MATE developers
http://www.mate-desktop.org/

And a "Credits" and a "Close" button.
I checked the installed version:

$ apt-show-versions mate-desktop
mate-desktop:amd64/jessie 1.8.1+dfsg1-3+deb8u1 uptodate

#14 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE Desktop - Suspend and Hibernate buttons missing » 2017-05-15 18:12:39

Here are the results:

$ dpkg-query -L upower
/.
/lib
/lib/udev
/lib/udev/rules.d
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-battery-recall-lenovo.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-battery-recall-fujitsu.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-csr.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-battery-recall-toshiba.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-battery-recall-gateway.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-battery-recall-ibm.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-battery-recall-dell.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-hid.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/95-upower-wup.rules
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/upower
/usr/share/doc/upower/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/upower/copyright
/usr/share/doc/upower/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/upower/AUTHORS
/usr/share/doc/upower/TODO.Debian
/usr/share/man
/usr/share/man/man1
/usr/share/man/man1/upower.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man7
/usr/share/man/man7/UPower.7.gz
/usr/share/man/man8
/usr/share/man/man8/upowerd.8.gz
/usr/share/dbus-1
/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces
/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.UPower.KbdBacklight.xml
/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.UPower.QoS.xml
/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.UPower.xml
/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.UPower.Wakeups.xml
/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.UPower.Device.xml
/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services
/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.UPower.service
/usr/share/polkit-1
/usr/share/polkit-1/actions
/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy
/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.qos.policy
/usr/share/locale
/usr/share/locale/fr
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/upower.mo
/usr/share/locale/it
/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/upower.mo
/usr/share/locale/pl
/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES
/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/upower.mo
/usr/share/locale/sv
/usr/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES
/usr/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/upower.mo
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/upower
/usr/lib/upower/upowerd
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/upower
/var
/var/lib
/var/lib/upower
/etc
/etc/UPower
/etc/UPower/UPower.conf
/etc/dbus-1
/etc/dbus-1/system.d
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.UPower.conf

and

$ dpkg-query -L mate-bout
dpkg-query: package 'mate-bout' is not installed

What is "mate-bout"? I can't find it neither as a package nor as a file in any package (I used debian package search on contents - this doesn't exist for devuan yet afaik).
upower seems to be updated:

$ apt-show-versions upower
upower:amd64/jessie 1:0.9.23-2+devuan1.2 uptodate

#15 Desktop and Multimedia » MATE Desktop - Suspend and Hibernate buttons missing » 2017-05-14 19:35:50

afuerst
Replies: 25

I started to upgrade my systems from Debian Jessie to Devuan Jessie. The migration process wasn't as smooth as I hoped. In the first step, it looked well, every system had different issues but they all looked simple. On one system, I couldn't get rid of systemd (which is of course the main reason to switch smile ), on two other systems I was missing the "Shut Down..."-menu from the MATE-System menu.
I solved all issues by purging most of the packages (all containing "mate", "gnome", "pol.*kit", "xserver" and "xorg") and reinstalling them.
This way I could solve all issues, but I am still missing the buttons "Suspend" and "Hibernate" in the Shutdown-window.
By executing the command

dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend

I verified suspend is working.
Does anyone have a solution to this?

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