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greenjeans

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XFCE is building a new WM and compositor for Wayland

Building from the ground up they say, using Rust. Not dumping X11 though...for now.
https://blog.xfce.org/

"This initiative will utilize a significant portion of the project’s donated funds"

Do tell.

What say ye mousers about this? I don't use it myself so I don't have a dog in this hunt.

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tux_99

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Re: XFCE is building a new WM and compositor for Wayland

From my perspective as a XFCE user who has no interest in Wayland and who doesn't have any insight into the details of how XFCE is developed it seems good because it keeps the wayland code (xfwl4) separate from the X11 part (xfwm4) so if in future they drop the X11 part it should be relatively easy for someone to for fork xfwm4 and continue maintaining it.

But if my assessment is wrong then please enlighten me.

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Camtaf

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Re: XFCE is building a new WM and compositor for Wayland

As long as they keep X11 compatible & wayland compatible up to date, I have no worries....

I've been using wayland on my RPi without any adverse affect, so can't see any problems with this.

brocashelm

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Registered: 2020-06-29

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Re: XFCE is building a new WM and compositor for Wayland

Why they are drinking the Wayland Kool-Aid is beyond me. Wayland has been in development for nearly two decades, yet it still can't do a couple of really essential things that X11 had already been doing since the 1990s.

Xfce went downhill after 4.12. It's no longer "lightweight" or "fast". They should've combined forces with MATE devs to fork and maintain GTK2, instead of just sucking up to GN*ME. Just watch, it's going to get worse as GTK3 gets phased out for GTK4, which will obliterate what few "options" users had then.

Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

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Re: XFCE is building a new WM and compositor for Wayland

Hello:

Xfce went downhill after 4.12.

Yes, a huge screw-up.

... it's going to get worse as GTK3 gets phased out ...

Based on what we have seen, I think we can expect exactly that.

Pity ...

Best,

A.

brocashelm

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Registered: 2020-06-29

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Re: XFCE is building a new WM and compositor for Wayland

Thankfully, if we follow what CAFE (fork of MATE) is doing, particularly CTK (fork of GTK3), we just may be able to avoid GN*ME's further enshittification for the foreseeable future. You can also download the official DEB files here if you don't want to or can't compile for some reason.