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#1 2020-06-29 16:23:42

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Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

Hello everyone.  I’ve been lurking around here for a good while, but this is my first post.  I’m a long time Linux user and have always had a great appreciation for JWM. It is that appreciation that has driven me to create this distro and to write JWM Kit in hopes that my humble contribution can be useful to those who use JWM.

JWM Kit Live is a Devuan based distro with the primary purpose of demonstrating JWM Kit. JWM Kit is a new set of software design to simplify usage of JWM (Joe’s Window Manager). In order to maximize personal customization JWM Kit focus on providing a graphical interface for editing menus, trays, groups, etc in lieu of automatic creation of those items. No part of the kit is designed to runs in the background. It only runs when the user starts it, and properly quits when "closed", or for notifications will close when timed out in a few seconds.  The only parts of the JWM Kit Live distro that are not standard Devuan (not provided in the repos) are the custom configuration, JWM Kit, and a small modification using Zenity to provide a graphical prompt for permission (a replacement for the recently removed gksu/gksudo)

some images of the kit (small sample there is much more to the kit than this):
https://codeberg.org/JWMKit/JWM_Kit/raw … editor.png
https://codeberg.org/JWMKit/JWM_Kit/raw … -Icons.png
https://codeberg.org/JWMKit/JWM_Kit/raw … tretch.png

iso download: updated to sourceforge
https://sourceforge.net/projects/jwmkit/files/iso/

JWM Kit git page:
https://codeberg.org/JWMKit/JWM_Kit

----additional info------
currently release is 32bit Beowulf with a PAE Kernal.
if you use Virtualbox you will need to enable the PAE option under processor

------Short FAQ------
Q: What makes this distro different?
A1: it is a JWM distro which is rare to begin with.
A2: JWM Kit.  At this time it is the only Distro that uses JWM Kit

Q: So why can't someone else just make a JWM Distro with JWM Kit
A: Please do, and if you have questions about it just ask.

Q: Will there be a 64 bit version?
A: Maybe if there is demand for it. As stated the main purpose is to demonstrate JWM Kit. If other include JWM Kit in their builds there will be little reason for me to make a 64 bit version.

Last edited by JWM-Kit (2020-06-30 00:28:58)

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#2 2020-06-29 22:13:50

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

Hi JWM-Kit

Sourceforge is free for hosting iso downloads, and easy to setup.

Ozi

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#3 2020-06-29 22:43:47

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

@Ozi
Thanks for the input. I was considering using Sourceforge, but have not taken the time to sign up. I've not done a lot of research on the best distribution method. I do know that everyone is leaving Github now that MS owns it and before that everyone left Sourceforge to go to Github. The only reason I used google drive was because I already had the account and did not want to add the burden to codeberg.

expect a Sourceforge link soon. Sourceforge added and removed Google Drive link

JWM-Kit

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#4 2020-06-30 13:27:23

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

Nice, will have to give this a try one day, have messed about with jwm a few times and unless you know what you are doing it could take awhile to setup and find out the hidden gems within. I think the folks over at puppy linux would be interested in this, although they probably have something similar worked out for their platform.

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#5 2020-07-04 05:49:47

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

Jwm kit it would be nice if you supplied a 64bit .deb with customised JWM for 64 bit Devuan users.

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#6 2020-07-06 01:16:41

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

@darry1966
You can install JWM Kit and make your own customizations. This would be more suited for your needs as every system is different. You can find the JWM Kit .deb on my codeberg page. The deb builds should work on all architecture (although they have only been tested on x86 and AMD64)

Some tips.
JWM Kit needs either the .jwmrc file or the ~/.config/jwmkit/settings
if you have at least one of these file jwmkit_config can create the other file for you.
If you have neither file use this command in the terminal to create an empty settings file:   touch ~/.config/jwmkit/settings
Future versions of JWM Kit will simplify this by automatically creating an empty settings file if neither file is present

Now with that out of the way you can use jwmkit_config to specify the location of the tray, menu, icons, startup, etc files. Use the folder icon to browse for the files or to create an new one. You should do this for all items in the list.  If  you wish to add addition menus or trays use the add button

That's the hard part.  Now you can use the various JWM Kit tools to edit the files.  The first thing you should do is create a tray and menu with links to a terminal & file-manager. While not as import also add the various parts of JWM Kit and other such useful apps. You can make it look pretty later, make it functional a first.

find the .deb below
https://codeberg.org/JWMKit/JWM_Kit

Hope this helps

Last edited by JWM-Kit (2020-07-06 03:38:34)

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#7 2020-07-06 23:25:48

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@JWM-Kit downloading now! smile

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#8 2020-07-07 00:52:43

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@Ozi Awesome. Looking forward to some feedback.

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#9 2020-07-15 00:56:50

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@JWM-Kit looks good to me. But I'll keep my jwm the way it is. wink

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#10 2020-07-17 15:46:49

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

@Ozi I understand where you are coming from. If you are familiar with JWM and have experience editing the XML yourself.  No graphical app will ever offer the flexibility of editing the config in a text editor.  I myself am the type person who would rather use a command over a graphical app. I still prefer the JWM Kit Wallpaper over manually editing just to set a wallpaper. I can view the images and set it all in one app. This single example is why I made JWM Kit separate apps instead of one big one.  So people can use just the parts they want. I  know I have packaged them all in one .deb but there is no reason they can not be packaged/installed separately.

Thanks for your feedback

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#11 2020-07-21 11:11:35

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

Trying your 32bit distro on HP dv6000 - a problematic machine which doesn't get on with some distros.  But seems to be running this Devuan spin very nicely so far menu tool is very useful to use - so nice effort.

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#12 2020-07-22 21:46:29

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@JWM-Kit I don't use gui apps to maintain my config, and yes I'm totally fine with xml. I used to use when I was working on B2B messaging in the power industry. Also, as I don't spend a lot of time looking at desktop wallpaper is usually just use #000000, and leave it up to the user to customize it to their liking! smile

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#13 2020-07-26 18:49:10

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

@darry1966 I'm glad it worked well for you.  I have to give Devuan the credit due.  To be honest most of the work in creating this spin has been towards JWM, and JWM Kit as my focus was to demonstrate JWM Kit. So if you hardware works well that's just the power of Devuan since I've not done anything special for hardware support.  If anything I've chosen user freedom over ease of use.  For example I could make JWM Kit more useful/powerful by automatically creating trays and menus on a system, but I decided It was more important to allow the user to keep or create their own,

@Ozi I know where you are coming from. I've given Star a spin and it tells me a lot about your preferences which I can best describe as simple and just works.  No need for fancy makeup . . . or even icons.  I used to maintain a similar system based on Debian for myself, but abandoned it about 2008 when I finally got some new hardware and wanted to play with all the fancy new distros at the time.

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#14 2020-09-11 15:34:14

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

JWM-Kit,

I am new to both Devuan and this forum (trying out Devuan in Virtualbox). I am a long-time user of Puppy Linux and am therefore pretty familiar with JWM. I would think your software and Puppy would be a perfect fit. Has anybody tried putting the two together that you are aware of?

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#15 2020-09-13 02:02:41

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

Welcome to the forum WoodLark. Thanks for your post. I don't know if anyone has tried using JWM Kit with puppy. It's only been a little more than 2 months since I first release JWM Kit (and JWM Kit Live) to the public. Who knows what the future holds.

I do know that I have lots of improvements planned for the kit. I now have a much brighter vision of what JWM Kit should be.  Lots of changes to come and it will be good.

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#16 2020-09-13 12:33:53

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

I loaded JWM-Kit live and played with it a little. I tried adding a program to the menu. It did get added, but it was added at the bottom of the menu, not under "Accessories, which is where I wanted.

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#17 2020-09-13 13:46:55

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Re: Announcing JWM Kit Live [updated iso download]

The Add button just creates the item and adds it to the list  You need to use the up and down arrow buttons to place the item where you want it.  Sorry if this is not obvious. 

As I said there will be lots of changes coming in the future. In the future versions the menu editor will not be a global view, but will be divided by menus (and the root menu). I also plan to have newly added items place next to the current selected item instead of at the bottom.

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