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#1 2020-06-24 10:16:03

Devuman
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devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall hangs

$ lscpu
Architecture:          i686
CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:            Little Endian
CPU(s):                2
On-line CPU(s) list:   0,1
Thread(s) per core:    1
Core(s) per socket:    2
Socket(s):             1
Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
CPU family:            6
Model:                 15
Model name:            Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          4300  @ 1.80GHz
Stepping:              2
CPU MHz:               1200.000
CPU max MHz:           1800.0000
CPU min MHz:           1200.0000
BogoMIPS:              3600.06
L1d cache:             32K
L1i cache:             32K
L2 cache:              2048K
Flags:                 fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm dtherm

- devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso hash checked
- installed on usb flash drive with W10/Rufus
- iso burned on CD

Although the CPU is 64-bit, with each install media devuan install hangs and at a different stage of the install procedure.

devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_i386-netinstall installs without problem.

Why does amd64 install not work?

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#2 2020-06-24 11:19:13

rolfie
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Re: devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall hangs

Perhaps because your CPU does not support x86_64 mode? You get: Architecture: i686, I think thats the i386 branch.

I am getting for a real 64 bit CPU:

# lscpu
Architecture:        x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):      32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:          Little Endian
Address sizes:       43 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
CPU(s):              16
On-line CPU(s) list: 0-15
Thread(s) per core:  2
Core(s) per socket:  8
Socket(s):           1
NUMA node(s):        1
Vendor ID:           AuthenticAMD
CPU family:          23
Model:               8
Model name:          AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor
Stepping:            2
CPU MHz:             2194.882
CPU max MHz:         3700,0000
CPU min MHz:         2200,0000
BogoMIPS:            7385.23
Virtualization:      AMD-V
L1d cache:           32K
L1i cache:           64K
L2 cache:            512K
L3 cache:            8192K
NUMA node0 CPU(s):   0-15
Flags:               fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw skinit wdt tce topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_llc mwaitx cpb hw_pstate sme ssbd sev ibpb vmmcall fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 rdseed adx smap clflushopt sha_ni xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves clzero irperf xsaveerptr arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold avic v_vmsave_vmload vgif overflow_recov succor smca

Have you ever had a 64 bit distro working?

rolfie

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#3 2020-06-24 11:32:46

larsH
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Registered: 2020-05-05
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Re: devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall hangs

Hi

The cpu is an amd 2700x. So it is absolutely a 64bit cpu.

To Devuman: Are you booting with or without UEFI. Are you doing a standard or expert install. Auto or manual partioning ??

Have a nice day
Lars H

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#4 2020-06-24 11:52:28

rolfie
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Re: devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall hangs

Hi Lars,

yes I got Ryzen 7 2700X that is clearly a 64bit CPU, I am on amd64. The OP has a Core2 CPU 4300, whatever that is, I have no idea. His/her lscpu printout indicates a 686 CPU with 64bit capability. Is that enough for amd64?

rolfie

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#5 2020-06-24 12:35:22

larsH
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Re: devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall hangs

Hi

I am sorry. Took the readout from the wrong post ;-()

Core 2 is 64 bit and amd compatible. So it should work. And use 64-bit if you have more than 4 GB ram. BUT core2 has only a 32-bit pci bus. If you have 4 GB or less ram I would advise you to run 32-bit linux. It uses less ram, and the 32-bit pci bus is a bottleneck ;-)

Have an nice day
Lars H

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#6 2020-06-24 13:51:32

Devuman
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Re: devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall hangs

booting without uefi, expert install, manual partitioning

devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64_desktop-live runs ok

EDIT: 4GB RAM

Last edited by Devuman (2020-06-24 13:56:39)

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#7 2020-06-24 16:11:16

rolfie
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Re: devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall hangs

Ok, Lars thinks your CPU does support 64bit, and the 64bit Life media also runs. Lets take that as granted.

Then lets look at the media used for installation.

CD: You got old mature HW including an older CD/DVD drive (at least I assume this). When you use oldfashioned CD or DVD drives to burn and read the media, the chance is high that it should work if the media quality is ok. From my experience: burning a CD on a BR drive and reading it in another PC with a BR drive may not work. Tried this with a gparted life CD: starting gparted is a gamble. I got lots of IO errors, sometimes gparted starts ok, sometimes not. The CD itself is fine, it booted perfectly with no IO errors in an older DVD burner. Same happened with Beowulf alpha and beta versions burned to CD, and installations typically fail when IO errors appear.

Memory stick: On my modern hardware I now only use flash drives for installation. I also used rufus on Win7 to generate the bootable sticks. Done that for ASCII, Arch, Beowulf in various steps, and gparted life, all worked fine. 
Note: there are people around that insist in that only the dd copy is the correct way to generate a bootable flash drive. Never used this.

One thing that might cause an installation to fail is if the flash drive itself is dodgy. If you can exchange it and try a different brand. I use a Windows utility called h2testw to check the flash drives. Don't know if this is available in English too. 

Another hint what might help: look on the other consoles if you see any errors showing up there.

Good luck, rolfie

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#8 2020-06-24 16:49:20

Devuman
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Re: devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall hangs

Thanks all. I went with devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_i386-netinstall and everything works fine.
Out of curiosity I'll try FreeBSD amd64 later on to see how that goes.

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