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The DUR will only have the recipes. A user would need to build the package themselves with the recipes. The built packages will not be added to the main archive. Security will be on the users.
In that case, perhaps this could be hosted on something like GitHub or GitLab? That way, you don't need anyone's "permission" to do it. You simply do it, and whoever wants to use it can use it.
This isn't directly related, but I wanted to mention that there are other potential ways of getting additional software on Devuan. For example, Debian has a deb for the Nix package manager; however, it is (unfortunately) geared toward systemd. Perhaps it could modified so that it would work without systemd.
Look into file recovery software as a possible solution.
A few relevant links:
Package: testdisk
(Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool)
https://packages.debian.org/stable/testdisk
I haven't trusted Microsoft since, years ago, I read what some guy reported regarding Windows 2000 Professional. He was poking around in Windows 2000 and found two keys, and one of them was named (literally) "NSA key".
And for the "reasons covered in this article", you may want to rethink your choice of using Linux:
Believe me, I am. And even if I do decide to keep using Linux, it most likely won't be running on "bare metal", but in a VM on a Qubes-like system.
I don't know about Devuan, but Refracta comes with ntpdate installed. That's what I use.
Although it should run automatically, I run ntpdate manually every day, right after the system boots up and right before I shut down. I do that because my computer is only connected to the internet when I am actively using it.
I have chosen "none of the above" for the reasons covered in this article:
Firefox and Chromium
https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html
Actually, I will most likely still keep Firefox around, it just won't be my primary web browser anymore.
In mid-December I upgraded a Daedalus-based Refracta to Excalibur. Since I don't use this system regularly, it is taking some time to identify whatever problems there are. Today I noticed two: The GRUB menu never appears before the OS boots up, and the background for LightDM is a black screen. I thought that running update-grub might solve the GRUB menu problem, but I was wrong -- it had no effect.
I discovered this yesterday and thought I'd share my discovery here for anyone who might find this type of OS interesting. By the way, the disk image file for the latest version of Sculpt OS is a mere 35 MB.
“Sculpt is an open-source general-purpose OS. It combines Genode's microkernel architecture, capability-based security, sandboxed device drivers, and virtual machines in a novel operating system for commodity PC hardware and the PinePhone. Sculpt is used as day-to-day OS by the Genode developers.”
Sculpt OS
https://genode.org/download/sculpt
A casual Sculpt OS walkthrough
https://genodians.org/nfeske/2025-01-30-sculpt-os-walkthrough
What happens when you try this?:
aptitude install tomcat10 -sI could replace the screen and I could buy a new laptop but I am irritated by those options.
I did some quick research on this, and apparently this problem could be caused by a faulty cable. Or maybe even just a loose cable. The fact that warmth seems to help is a clue that the cable may simply be loose.
I could run Windows as the host and run however many Excaliburs in VMs. But I think that is a retrograde step.
Since gaming is important to you, I see nothing wrong with doing that.
Kicksecure is a Debian-based "distro" that supposedly requires systemd. That being the case, it appears that it would not be possible to easily "Devuanize" Kicksecure.
Explanations for why this is (supposedly) the case can be found here:
Non-Systemd - Systemd Development Discussion
https://forums.kicksecure.com/t/non-systemd-systemd-development-discussion/766
systemd
https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/Systemd
A question for the more knowledgeable folks here: Considering the systemd features that are being used in Kicksecure, is systemd really as essential as Kicksecure's lead developer implies?
“The danger is not only that AI systems might behave unpredictably, but that fear of that possibility will legitimize permanent emergency governance—centralized control over computation, research, and information flows—on the grounds that there is no alternative.”
How a Techno-Optimist Became a Grave Skeptic
https://brownstone.org/articles/how-a-techno-optimist-became-a-grave-skeptic/
Look at the changelogs:
https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/changelog.html
https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver_6.09+dfsg1-2_changelog
Comparing the two, something seems a bit off to me. Then again, this is the first time I've done such a comparison, so maybe this is "normal" for Debian?
@Fielding
Try this and post the output in a reply:
aptitude search vivaldiI think it's time to bring this old science-fiction movie to the attention of many more people:
Colossus: The Forbin Project
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/
I prefer to install the gdebi-core package and then use gdebi like this:
cd ~/Downloads
sudo gdebi <package-name>.debThis approach has rarely (if ever) given me any problems.
@zapper
For even more information, here are some relevant links:
https://packages.debian.org/stable/snapper
https://packages.debian.org/stable/snapper-gui
https://packages.debian.org/stable/timeshift
Also, I should have mentioned that ZFS has rollback capability as well.
The night before last I upgraded a Daedalus-based Refracta to Excalibur. I experienced no major problems, but there were some minor ones.
The most noticeable problem was the CPU Graph plugin for Xfce kept crashing and had to be removed. I'm not sure why, and haven't had time to investigate this issue yet.
I may have also found a serious problem in one of Debian's packages -- a security-related program never starts because no configuration file was installed when the package was installed. I will refrain from naming the software until I've investigated further. Perhaps this was just a fluke caused by the system being in a transitional state when I attempted to reinstall the package.
The reason I had interest btw, is because the concept of secure rollbacks if something didn't update correctly.
You can accomplish that by using BTRFS or LVM. Years ago (on the Debian forum) I mentioned that I would use such an approach if I ever decided to run Debian Sid.
If everything works, why update?
Because not updating is a bad practice, security-wise. And that's a major reason why I would never use a Puppy Linux derivative (or similar) as my "daily driver". By the way, I did try that once, years ago, on an old computer, but quickly gave up because the system was too unstable.
sudo apt install isoimagewriter E: Unable to locate package isoimagewriter
Are you using Daedalus or an earlier version of Devuan?
Mintstick is what you seek my friend, it's in the repo, it's an awesome utility. Refracta2usb if you want to do more complex things like multi-boot and persistence.
There is also isoimagewriter for creating bootable USB flash drives from hybrid ISO files.
how did you find out that is so old?
I did a search on DuckDuckGo for "icecat 102.11.0esr" (no quotes) and found this:
“Version 102.11.0, first offered to ESR channel users on May 9, 2023”
Firefox ESR Release Notes
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/102.11.0/releasenotes/
I am using icecat extended support release 102.11.0esr (64-bit) GNU IceCat gnu-1.0
Why are you using a version of Icecat that is so old? That version of Icecat is over two years old.