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#201 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2021-11-16 13:30:29
Those are for the xfce4-notifyd desktop notifications.
I'm not familiar whether MATE has its own desktop notifications.
So...
If MATE has its own, or if you just don't want it, it's perfectly safe to remove. 
apt-get remove --purge xfce4-notifyd*#202 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2021-11-16 02:38:46
Hi Ron!
The xfce4 power manager was installed independently for ease of use to help people; therefore, YES...it can be removed without issues.
I always remove it myself.
#203 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2021-11-14 22:50:47
Thanks Ogis1975. 
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To anyone reading this, if you read the release-notes, I said to do a dist-upgrade each time you ran updates on ceres (miyo-rolling). I was shortsighted on this, because I assumed that people would know what to do if they encountered a problem.
So, just in case this helps...this is "a really basic look at" how I run unstable...you may get differing opinions or extra ways from different people.
When running unstable, there are times when a package (or several packages) may be held back, packages removed automatically, packages with bugs, etc. Therefore, it's better to just use an upgrade instead of a dist-upgrade under normal circumstances. There are ways to go ahead and upgrade those held back package(s); however, I generally just wait until the maintainers have removed those package(s) from being "held back".
Running unstable isn't as scary as it sounds. I remember when I first started using Debian Sid on the now defunct Semplice Linux. I was told on the forums that I would learn to tame Sid. I didn't believe it at the time, but it was true. It's not that hard, and I grew to prefer unstable...
Just pay attention to what apt tells you and respond accordingly.
If running a dist-upgrade, and it says that it's going to remove packages (this is different than apt telling you to run an apt autoremove), I say no to the dist-upgrade...wait a day, two, or three...then try again. That doesn't happen very often. When I ran Debian Sid, it seemed to happen a lot more often...and usually had something to do with the init that shan't be named. I think I may have seen it once or twice since I've been running Ceres...but then again, my personal systems don't have much on them to get serious bugs. Hahaha! 
Then again, it took me about 2 or 3 tries before I eventually made unstable my regular system (back before the birth of Devuan). Like I said before, it's not for everyone.
Last but not least, a final word of wisdom for you to ponder...
The oldest picture of you is the youngest picture of you. 
#205 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-11-12 03:12:10
I think there's a way to set that with De{vu,bi}an but I can't remember how. Anybody?
Dude...
I can't remember what I did yesterday...and if I did remember it today, I'd forget it tomorrow.
#206 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-11-11 17:18:30
Switched to Arch 'cos ...
Arch is bloat!
LOLOL!!!
I don't know about now, but many years ago (around 2015 ???), I built 3 Openbox systems with the same packages...
1. Debian
2. Ubuntu
3. Arch
Here is what I discovered...
1. Arch used the highest RAM (at startup) and disk space.
2. Debian used the least disk space.
3. Ubuntu used the least RAM (at startup). Wha'the???
Then again, that was in 2015 (?). I haven't tried it since then, so I probably shouldn't have said anything...
#207 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2021-11-10 03:32:14
No.
Ceres is the equivalent of Debian Sid...which is unstable.
It's not for everyone.
.
You get the most up-to-date packages that Debian provides; however, your system could break if you're not sure what you're doing. I've been running Ceres for well over 2 years...cause I know what to do n'stuff.
#208 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2021-11-10 01:25:22
Hi Miyo, are there any versions of Miyo that don't use pulseaudio? Thanks.
The 2020 versions of Miyo Rolling (based on Devuan Ceres) don't use it. Those .isos use either the Openbox and Wmderland window manager. Wmderland is a tiling window manager...like i3-gaps, but it's configuration file is easier to edit for people new to tiling window managers.
Sourceforge: https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … 0-Release/
OSDN: https://osdn.net/projects/miyolinux/releases/72248
I do fresh installs of both of them monthly to see if they upgrade okay without having to jump through a bunch'a hoops to fix stuff.
Though the .isos are over a year old, they still upgrade fine...well...the Openbox version needs a little fix for the menu, but it's easy and documented in the readme file on Sourceforge. I've made others in the past that don't use pulse, but I've made so many releases of Miyo that I can't keep up with what I did on what.
Thanks for the interest Ron! Sorry I couldn't be more specific about older versions.
#209 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2021-11-10 01:03:16
Downloads:
Sourceforge: https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … fier/2021/
OSDN: https://osdn.net/projects/miyolinux/releases/76259
I edited (heavily) the previous post, because I made a boo-boo with the update notifier that I didn't catch. 
I've made a new .zip file with the corrections (download links above), but if you've already installed the update notifier on (or before) November 09, 2021, you can watch this video to see how to fix it...
...or you can just do the following to fix it...
1. Comment out or remove the following lines from your autostart...
/usr/local/bin/updates-sync /usr/local/bin/updates-sync22. As root, create the following files in /etc/cron.d/
(you can name them anything you want)
In the first file, put the following command...
@reboot root /usr/local/bin/updates-syncIn the second file, put the following command...
@reboot root /usr/local/bin/updates-sync23. Reboot your computer.
If you install this new "fixed" version...
I made this notifier to use mainly on my Devuan Ceres system (MiyoLinux Rolling). That's why I have it only doing an apt-get upgrade instead of an apt-get dist-upgrade. That's also the reason for the 6 hour check intervals.
The Update Notifier will check for updates approximately 4 minutes after computer startup. Thereafter, it will check every 6 hours. If updates are available, it will show a desktop notification and an icon in the system tray. Clicking the icon in the system tray will open an authentication window to enter your password. After entering your password, xterm will open and perform the updates. See information after the instructions if you want to change some things in the scripts.
Dependencies:
bash
yad
policykit-1-gnome (or another polkit)
xfce4-notifyd (or dunst, notification-daemon, etc. if you want desktop notifications)
xterm (unless you want to change the terminal that is used)Instructions:
PERFORM STEPS 1-4 AS ROOT!!!
1. Move all of the scripts into /usr/local/bin/
2. Make sure their permissions are set to allow anyone to run them.
3. Move the 2 text files (updates-sync-cron and updates-sync2-cron) into /etc/cron.d/
MAKE SURE TO CHANGE THE OWNER AND GROUP (OF THOSE TWO TEXT FILES) FROM "YOUR NAME" TO "ROOT" IF YOU UNZIPPED THE FILE AS A REGULAR USER!!!
4. Move the updates.svg icon into /usr/share/images/
5. Add the following lines to your autostart...
/usr/local/bin/updater-first-run /usr/local/bin/updater-six-hours6. Reboot
_________________________________If you don't want the desktop notification pop-up window...
As root, open the update-notifier2 script with a text editor, enable line numbers, and comment out lines 7 and 9.Hovering your mouse over the system tray icon will give you the same information as the desktop notification.
_________________________________If you use this on a stable system and want to use dist-upgrade...
As root, open the updates-yes script with a text editor, and change apt-get upgrade to apt-get dist-upgradeAlso, while that same script is open in your text editor...if you want to use a terminal other than xterm, replace...
xterm -fa mono -fs 12 with your terminal of choice.
...'cause that's the way I roll baby!
#210 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update on the Update Notifier » 2021-11-07 13:59:00
I finally got around to making a new update notifier. It still functions as before; however, I wrote some simple bash scripts to do everything. I haven't made it into a .deb package yet; it's in a .zip file with instructions on where to put the scripts, the icon, and what to add to your autostart.
As before, clicking the icon in the system tray will open an Authentication window. Enter your password, and xterm will open to perform the updates.
With this one, if you missed the desktop notification, you can hover your mouse over the icon in the system tray, and it will show the number of updates available and list them also. (Shown in the screenshot below)
If anyone would like to try it, it can be downloaded from...
EDIT: See the next post for downloads
#211 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2021-11-05 21:34:15
YIKES. Now I'm awake. Thanks MIYO!
Glad to be of assistance.
Now go help others by making that entire song your phone's ringtone.
Edited to add: That song is actually a cover of Rattling Sabres original. Pat sings different words for most of the song. Here's the original if anyone is interested...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV1ELKBGpu8
Thanks catprints! Take care!
#212 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2021-11-05 05:06:54
All Fired Up
The quintessential Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo epic awesomeness of epic awesomeness of quintessential awesome epicness. 
#213 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-21 18:58:36
OMG...
I'm so glad that I'm using this old computer. Give me 2 CPUs and an incredible 4 GBs of RAM, and I'm happy.
Sorry to disrupt the thread...
Good luck to you.
#214 Re: Off-topic » It's a sad day . . . » 2021-10-11 02:04:34
Morning check of this forum and EVERY new post is off topic. Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . .
Troll appreciation thread
Fight for the Plasma Desktop Cube
Palemoon drama, has gotten bad
Music
Show your desktop (rebooted)
Okay...
You have forced me into this; therefore, I will give my input (not that my input matters).
Here it is...
--> LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
Best topic I've seen in a while!
As to Blender. I spent a lot of time learning how to use it on OpenBSD in order to use its video editing capabilities. After finally "getting it", OpenBSD added Shotcut to their repos (which is my preferred video editor). 
#215 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM KIT love fest » 2021-10-05 01:59:56
andyprough wrote:@zapper - I'm reading on the Hyperbola forum that the devs hate any rust-based web browsers, so if I put abrowser on Hyperbola that's bad.
But at the same time, if I use a rarely updated version of iceweasel-uxp (the version in Hyperbola stable's repo is 1.5 years old now) - that's really bad from a security standpoint.
What do most Hyperbola users do in terms of web browser? Do they stick with iceweasel-uxp, or use the newer version in the Hyperboa testing repo, or do they just give up and use a "bad" rust-based browser with frequent security updates?
Actually, Hyperbola devs don't trust adding rust for this reason:
https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/77234
Also, dbus is required anyhow to use it currently...
That being said, Hyperbola devs are in a bit of a pickle, because of palemoon devs going balisitic over some users not following their trademarks which resulted in a cascade of people removing their commits from uxp. So, unless that rust issue is fixed, or someone makes a build of firefox that doesn't require dbus to run, then alas, you will have to use a VM to do that stuff... ;(
Sadly, that's become what this situation has been reduced to. Thank the palemoon devs for being a bunch of absolute morons.
I was wrong about Palemoon devs being any good it begins to seem...
I feel like OpenBSD's devs might laugh at me if I told them how I feel now, about palemoon. meh... it is what it is.
At any rate, OpenBSD is becoming tempting as a backup until rust is made into a free licensed programming language... spoiler alert: its not right now!
I wish there was a firefox build that was libre that didn't require that dbus nonsense.
I'll give you something real quick though!
You might want to make a new thread for this...
#216 Re: Off-topic » The rise of Artix and decline of Arch on Distrowatch » 2021-09-17 23:51:09
Hi zapper!
I didn't say that I hate them: I said that I don't like them.
I know that package management for Arch et al. is highly touted, but I just don't like it. It's just me. We like what we like. I used Obarun for quite some time...didn't hate it, or I wouldn't have used it for so long...just didn't like the package management.
I apologize for taking the thread off-topic. I'll exit now.
#217 Re: Off-topic » The rise of Artix and decline of Arch on Distrowatch » 2021-09-16 17:20:14
Am I the only person in the world who doesn't like Arch, its derivatives, or respins?
#218 Re: Installation » Network Issue With Devuan » 2021-08-28 18:04:47
- Devuan cost me 2 days plus 1 day to return for debian 10 plus maybe 14~ GB total of my monthly data cap, which is highly expensive here in Egypt.
Please don't blame Devuan for the choices that YOU make.
#219 Re: Installation » Network Issue With Devuan » 2021-08-28 16:41:37
You're literally a lying pig.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
When I was 12 years old, I shot myself in my big toe (with a BB Gun) to see if it would hurt.
It did...
...a lot!
#220 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Xevuan locales » 2021-05-19 16:35:45
You may also need to install locales-all if the advice from dice doesn't help. Then after installing locales-all, again try running...
dpkg-reconfigure locales#221 Re: DIY » Creating a Custom Devuan Iso with Preinstalled Packages » 2021-05-13 16:00:08
#1 ^
Except you should use MOC instead of CMUS. Hahahaha!
#222 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-15 20:09:52
...all of you sissies using web browsers. You're just opening yourselves up to all kinds of trouble...
Oh. Wait.
#223 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-14 02:00:07
Hahahahaha!
#224 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-13 19:00:47
At the risk of looking foolish...which I'm prone to do...
A lot of these minimalistified examples can be made into desktop files or aliases...which is what I do with almost all of mine. That cuts out the need to remember (or record) a ton of different commands.
However...I still like floaty window managers and GUI stuff too.
#225 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-13 12:23:02
Beards are bloat !!!
grep "Beard" | cut -b 1000000
Hahaha!
#!/bin/sh
if [ beard is bloat ];
then
echo "NO"
else
echo "Gotta have hair somewhere"
fi
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