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#2151 Re: News & Announcements » [package bump request] Youtube-dl » 2019-01-12 20:50:51
@golinux: No offense, but I'm not cool with your 'compile it yourself' advise every time someone asks for the inclusion of a new or updated package. Yes, I could compile stuff myself, but then I'd be installing s/w outside of the apt tool chain, so what's the use of that? Taking that a step further, if I install tools/apps outside of the package management tools provided by Debian/Devuan, what's the purpose of a package manager? Then I could just switch back to Funtoo, which is a source-based distro anyway
Fair enough . . . But please consider that Devuan's purpose is to provide an OS free of systemd. We do that. It is not "our" job to provide every package that a user may want. Why? This is a USER-supported effort. If you would like to see the youtube-dl package included in the Devuan repos, great! Please offer to build and maintain it for Devuan so ALL users can benefit. Just don't expect a non-essential package like that to be maintained by someone on the Devuan team. That's not our job. Being uncool with that is hardly a productive solution.
PS. Advice is a noun. Advise is a verb. 
#2152 Re: Installation » Problem booting encrypted LVM » 2019-01-12 17:10:19
I have never done encryption but noticed this in the section on encryption in the Visual install guide for the desktop-live installer that I just put together with fsmithred. A careful reading might give you some clues.
3.2) Encryption: The installer can only encrypt root and home filesystems. A separate boot partition is optional and will be unencrypted if present. For full protection of your data you should not use a separate swap partition. If there is no swap partition, a swap file will be created on the root filesystem and that will be encrypted.
#2153 Re: News & Announcements » [package bump request] Youtube-dl » 2019-01-11 17:11:00
Thanks. Never heard of that one. I don't dl something often but use vlc when I do.
*edit* So I poked around a bit and found advice not to use sudo pip. I'm not saying it's not OK just providing info.
#2154 Re: News & Announcements » [package bump request] Youtube-dl » 2019-01-11 16:49:43
First, make sure a newer package isn't in backports etc. at https://pkginfo.devuan.org/
If not, submit a bug report at https://bugs.devuan.org/ and send the report via email
Or compile it yourself.
#2155 Re: Other Issues » Linux systemd Affected by Memory Corruption Vulnerabilities » 2019-01-11 06:54:55
I found the comments at https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/ … gs_qualys/ most entertaining
#2156 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-08 21:36:33
Let us know how it works out. 
#2157 Re: Devuan » Devuan branding on https://git.devuan.org/ » 2019-01-08 18:21:01
BTW: is there a font in Devuan repositories that can be used for the Logo in text like prociono in Debian?
No. Those letters were created just for the "Devuan" logo.
@hellekin . . . The four inner planet, the D is the orbit of Ceres. The font is Fira Sans Thin with 15px rounded stroke. The E is based on a U.
#2158 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-08 16:49:38
Just want to make sure you understand that <release codename> will need to be replaced with jessie or ascii (without the < >).
When devuan was just starting, there was some testing of amprolla that merged the main repos with backports and I got a bit burned by that so I always comment backports even though I know it's OK to just use -t. Not a problem since I really don't need anything from there.
#2159 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-07 23:48:55
@thierrybo . . . He installed this package from the DEBIAN repo directly so will your solution still be valid?
#2160 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-07 21:55:31
1) no need to uninstall a package
I don't know if amprolla will recognize and update packages installed directly from Debian.
2) indeed, everything is on devuan.org but also in /etc/apt/sources.list
Then why would you use Debian repos when it says this in several places on the website:
Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc, should NOT be used directly.
3) since there is no security support for packages from backports, all I have to do is install the backported package, uncomment those lines, and update-upgrade my system as usual?
I'm pretty sure that the backports repo in ascii is pinned so you must use `-t ` to download and no need to comment. You'd have to ask on the debian forums whether you would have to comment those lines from their repo. Probably wouldn't hurt.
#2161 Re: Devuan » Devuan branding on https://git.devuan.org/ » 2019-01-07 21:35:15
How is this not branded?
Hmmmm . . . I see those links could use an update. Will get to that in a day or so . . .
#2162 Re: Installation » backports: how to prevent incompatibilities? » 2019-01-07 15:36:26
Backports can be useful to accommodate newer hardware etc. But never use Debian or other 3rd party repos like mint or ubuntu. Use the devuan backports. All this information is on devuan.org so please have a look there..
#2163 Re: Installation » E: Package 'python-ipalib' has no installation candidate » 2019-01-05 22:22:50
After much Internet searching, I finally discovered 'python-ipalib' in https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt. I assume, because the FreeIPA project is very Fedora-driven (the distro I used to use primarily), it has some kind of systemd hooks or some such.
Yes. Exactly.
Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can setup my freeipa client on devuan ceres?
You could remove the systemd dependency and rebuild it. Or better yet take on long-term maintenance of the package for Devuan.
#2164 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can someone explain... » 2019-01-04 19:01:02
"Dont Make A FrankenDebian"
Should be front and center of both Debian and Devuan websites, a good percentage of issues like this are always popping up at forums and elsewhere regularly. There is a wiki https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian but how would a new or uninformed user know where to find that info before he/she break it?
Or maybe "Debian is not Ubuntu or Mint or MX Linux" ........
That would only be useful if a new user actually bothers to read anything. These days users tend to leap before looking. A garish flashing popup is the only thing that MIGHT grab someone's attention . . .
FYI . . . this is on the download page of the devuan website and I'm pretty sure repeated on the repo pages too. Those who do not seek will not find:
Package repositories
Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian’s, should NOT be used directly. Devuan recommends using the codename (jessie, ascii, beowulf, ceres) rather than the suite (oldstable, stable, testing, unstable) in sources.list entries.
#2165 Re: Installation » Installing Devuan from VBox » 2019-01-04 17:39:17
Is that the same as devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso 07-Jun-2018 00:18 1.0G which I'm using from here? https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr … ktop-live/
What does that one do easier/better?
The -live and netinst use different installers.
The -live isos use the refractainstaller which rsyncs the running system to your specified location.
The netinst isos use the classic debian-installer which is documented here:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/ins … evuan.html
and here for the graphic install:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/ins … stall.html
Description of the Devuan isos can be found in the ISO Guide section of the devuan.org index page
#2166 Re: Installation » Installing Devuan from VBox » 2019-01-03 23:00:46
I am launching from the desktop.
Pop-ups: choose su or sudo, I choose su then I get the yad refractainstaller popup. I think I'll bypass the desktop launch and try the cli this time.thanks again.
Sounds like you're on your way! Let us know how it works out. FWIW, I use the cli version also. We'll be adding a page with screenshots for a cli install too.
#2167 Re: Installation » Installing Devuan from VBox » 2019-01-03 20:36:28
If you're already in a live session, just launch the installer from the icon on the desktop or the system menu and follow the instructions on the webpage posted above.
Note: You can also launch the cli installer as root with refractainstaller and the graphical one with refractainstaller-yad.
There was also an issue with certain yad versions shoving the installer dialogues off-screen so it might just be that you have an older version of yad and need to upgrade.
#2168 Re: Installation » Installing Devuan from VBox » 2019-01-03 19:18:46
I'm not quite clear what you are trying to do. Can you provide a little more information?
This beta is a WIP but very close to finished: https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentatio … e-gui.html. I will be making some changes later today.
Also please read the RELEASE NOTES on the desktop if you have not already done so
#2169 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2019-01-03 18:47:08
@golinux: I am not sure how the rdepends from your posting relates to that. Maybe this changed from Jessie?
There was a question about how pusleaudio rdepends on beowulf compared to earlier releases.
#2170 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can someone explain... » 2019-01-03 18:40:35
Why would you think they would be? It is a _very bad idea_ to use Debian-related packages from other sources on Devuan.
Not *everyone* is as up on Ubuntu/Debian differences. Since Ubuntu is forked from Debian as is Devuan, its an easy to assume idea.. No need to be snippy about my lack of knowledge...
You're right of course. Devuan users tend to be pretty savvy but I should not assume we all are. We also tend to be pretty thick-skinned.
The Debian wiki is quite clear about not mixing repositories: Don't make a FrankenDebian
Repositories that can create a FrankenDebian if used with Debian Stable:
- Debian testing release (currently buster)
- Debian unstable release (also known as sid)
- Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!
- Ubuntu PPAs
#2171 Re: Installation » Install fail2ban on ascii [SOLVED] » 2019-01-03 18:08:13
Hi,
the package python3-systemd is only for the backend systemd, it is possible to use other backend (see backend comment on /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf)
the package seems to be ok on Devuan.
Alberto
Yes, I saw python3-systemd was not on the banned pkg list. I have asked KatolaZ whether it should be. Will post when he responds.
#2172 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can someone explain... » 2019-01-03 17:10:09
The debs I built on Ubuntu 18.04 are not happy on Devuan. Thanks again!!
Why would you think they would be? It is a _very bad idea_ to use Debian-related packages from other sources on Devuan.
#2173 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-31 18:34:08
On the OP, I'd probably be around here more often if it wasn't for the disturbing level of tinfoil hat insanity that goes on. Some people really need to get a grip.
Huh? There is much less tinfoil fantasy here than on most other forums. It is mostly high level technical discussions and problem solving. Maybe if you were around more often you'd know that.
#2174 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-31 17:21:05
Perhaps someone will step up to do that.
#2175 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-31 01:23:25
As far as I know there is no dependency on pulseaudio with quantum. I am running it on OpenBSD and I have no pulseaudio installed - and no alsa in fact.
It looks like it might only be on Linux systems
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