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#101 Re: Installation » How to Install XLibre on Devuan Daedalus (MATE)? » 2025-06-28 10:09:40

@steve_v wrong thread pretty sure. If you are going to get pissed at me, at least respond correctly on the thread where you say I offended you.

Also, I don't use GNOME. I never really used GNOME much. MATE? Yeah, but if GNOME disappeared, or for that matter, every DE, I wouldn't care at all.

Especially GNOME3 and forks of it or KDE 5+ or GNOME 4 and similar.

My point being, I find fault with GNOME precisely because I find it unusable without crap and it doesn't offer much to me in the first place.

I have tried it, but it sucks. Lumina Desktop, LXDE and XFCE4 and MATE look fine.

But DEs usually require unneeded dependencies anyhow so... its a waste.

#102 Re: Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-28 01:08:46

I don't like corporate nonsense or fascist nonsense. GNOME devs are very low on the integrity bar for sure. Although... so are people who use woke as a negative.

Woke means awake and nothing else. It doesn't mean the opposite of based unless people have brain damage.

There is so much stupid dogmatic internet slang for fascism that needs to disappear. Woke, Based consoomer and other stupid stuff like that just gives me a headache.

people like Luke Smith encourage this dumb slang and I detest it. Not to mention their artwork of old people and green fbi agents, frog animations, etc...

Just a very annoying list of crap. The internet has enough bad slang without all of that being added.

This is one of the reasons I cannot stand people like Luke Smith and Bryan Lunduke and other similar parasitic people.

Its also ironic that right wingers now claim to be for linux, when they are the ones who tried to crush the movement of linux in the first place!

Irony, irony, irony...

Anyways, this rant is brought to you by many headaches and beyond.

#103 Re: Installation » How to Install XLibre on Devuan Daedalus (MATE)? » 2025-06-28 00:56:41

@steve_v bikeshedding crowd? What the hell is that?

You sure use some unusual analogies

#104 Re: Installation » How to Install XLibre on Devuan Daedalus (MATE)? » 2025-06-25 03:44:27

@golinux I hear steve_v was trying to compile it for that purpose.

I don't know if he did.

#105 Re: Installation » How to Install XLibre on Devuan Daedalus (MATE)? » 2025-06-25 03:18:22

I am not brave enough to try running xenocara or xlibre from a source build myself.

So I say, you bold.

#106 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Where to view system requirements Devuan » 2025-06-25 03:17:15

if you want a window manager and a web browser like palemoon, you might only need 1GB of ram.

But then again, I know more people prefer flashy DEs, so there's that.

#107 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2025-06-25 03:15:50

@aitor looks interesting... you have a point.

#108 Re: Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-22 15:49:14

@steve_v yes, that is true I suppose. Although, I was talking about people who actually are intending to be those things. You are talking about people who aren't intending to be.

So there is that.

#109 Re: Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-21 14:25:37

@steve_v I have had no problems with Xenocara.

But you certainly are being very harsh. Maybe, chill?

That to me is childish.

Just sayin...

#110 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2025-06-21 12:29:55

@aitor what do you mean by vdev? ZFS?

Curious.

If you mean ZFS, I think there are better options for Hyperbola, such as HAMMER2.

#111 Re: Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-21 12:27:48

@Steve_v I couldnt really understand what you were trying to say here:

"@steve_v *is waiting for Xlibre to finish compiling right now*
And you? Yeah, that's what I thought..."

Btw. Xenocara has better principles in place anyhow. Why not try compiling that? Hyperbola did it, I bet it could be done in devuan too.

Yes pledge and unveil wouldn't work, but its worked fine for me.

#112 Re: Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-20 04:20:16

@steve_v as usual... punching down rather than punching up.

Its easy for you to criticize a small person so you choose that. Congratulations, you just played yourself.

Zzzzzzzzzzz....

Xenocara is the best option btw.

Xlibre could be good, but I am not certain yet of if he, the person in charge of it, is pushing his political beliefs on it.

Till I know, I will stick with my support for Xenocara only.

Now if you excuse me, I don't take pleasure in playing with your childish insults or in fighting them either.

#114 Re: Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-17 03:53:29

@brocashelm I don't know if or when they will embrace wayland.

Its possible you are right, but I don't know yet. I am undecided on what I think will happen with that.

#115 Re: Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-16 19:24:49

@Camtaf gnome is a waste yes. Although, most of  the  DEs except LXDE, XFCE4 and LUMINA look awful and are bloated garbage.

And have unneeded dependencies...

This being said, I just cannot stand that level of arrogance. Such a-holes.

@brocashelm Agree with all of that. I just hope XLIBRE isn't tainted by the ideology of the person developing it. He supposedly is a fascist, I hope he keeps his views out of his project.

I don't trust him too much. But then I don't trust GNOME or Redhat devs either. So... yeah.

Corporate rulers = bad

Fascism = awful

I will have to see how this future progresses to know whether xlibre is any good.  Although, Xenocara also exists and I tend  to think that might be a better option. Besides which, it works in Hyperbola. Except pledge and unveil of course. wink

Time will tell...

#116 Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-16 01:53:45

zapper
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https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Way … temd-Focus

Immediately found this out when browsing distrowatch.

As some people know, I find this to be completely stupid and flat out arrogant.

The cheek one must have to doing stuff like this is immense.

Then again, corporations love this kind of cheek... so yeah.

Thoughts anyone?

#117 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2025-06-06 16:48:35

If at some point you can test openrc, that would be appreciated. I would more likely use it if that were the case.

#118 Re: Off-topic » libadwaita forked by Mint » 2025-05-26 22:02:19

@greenjeans hey what does CSD mean in this context? I assume its an acronym...?

#119 Re: Off-topic » So Microsoft has ruined GitHub by pushing AI sloppy nonsense features » 2025-05-26 21:53:50

Did you expect anything different? If microsoft didn't ruin most of what they touched, they wouldn't be microsoft.

That's fundamentally who they are.

Break things, to make money! That's also redhat too as well.

#120 Re: Off-topic » Does anyone watch Bryan Lunduke? » 2025-05-25 21:25:06

@brocashelm If he isn't fascist, he shouldn't use phrases like woke in a negative or use alex jones as a positive, because that is what fascists do.

@greenjeans Gnome shouldn't be dependant on systemd though. This is not the only reason I dislike it though.

The main reason is it has many stupid dependencies beyond that. That is just the cherry on top.

No DE or window manager worth anything should depend on dbus, polkit, pam, systemd, networkmanager, pulseaudio or pipewire. Another words, if it depends on very bloated redhat software, its crap.

Also, GNOME feels like windows 8 all over again. That design was trash. Then again, I dislike most DEs.

LXDE and Lumina are fairly decent. LXDE however alas, requires polkit for some unknown reason. (No idea!)

#122 Re: Off-topic » Does anyone watch Bryan Lunduke? » 2025-05-19 16:15:34

When Gnome  started forcing systemd to be a dependency for GNOME 3, they lost all credibility.

They became worse than every other DE.

Although, I don't have respect for any DE but Lumina Desktop. However, I primarily use JWM, because it has everything I need with jwmkit as an option. Although I would still be using it regardless of jwmkit's existence. It has the functionality dwm has but doesn't look as awful and uses less cpu power.

What else can I say?

#123 Re: News & Announcements » Chrome based browsers and uBlock Origin » 2025-05-19 06:01:25

@lynch9

I also say the same.

As for whether librewolf is better than chrome, the answer should be a yes.

Firefox and chrome based web browsers aren't great.

ungoogled chromium could be considered an exception though.

Still, first place for me is palemoon
second place, librewolf or similar
third place ungoogled chromium or similar
everything else = bottom

#124 Re: Off-topic » Does anyone watch Bryan Lunduke? » 2025-05-19 05:55:20

Anti  identity politics my foot...

He is a fascist clearly, as only fascists use woke as a negative. Also, only fascists use alex jones as a positive. So... yeah

Woke means your aware of systematic oppression. and alex jones is a conspiracy nut

This all being said, the gnome foundation can suck it for their persecution of Stallman. Especially considering the majority of the people who signed their rms cancel petition were corporate goons.

Also, just mentioning his name is not a good reason to instant ban someone.

That is like saying he is hitler or trump. He isn't on that level, yet.

#125 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2025-05-02 11:50:49

@aitor I am not used to runit yet. I see now though, you haven't tested openrc yet.

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