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greanjeans,
I've been running it live, and I have discovered one MAJOR issue...
...now I want to install it! LOLOLOL!
Well done man...WELL DONE!
That conky on/off switch is absolutely great, and I like what you did with the wallpaper too! Your additions (and subtractions) are perfect.
What you've done stands on its own and deserves it's own name (if you're so inclined). I'm flattered that you kept it associated with Miyo, but that wasn't necessary by any means as far as I'm concerned friend.
Wow that's the highest praise right there, the guy who's nice OS I hacked on actually likes what I did, thank you!! That means a lot!
It was a real joy to do, I love the system and learned new things too. I tell ya you can talk all day long to a developer and they can try explain what they do and why, but to really understand you HAVE to download their work and dig into it yourself, and that's how you find all the really cool stuff and learn their style.
Wish some more folks would give it a go and "MIYO" it their way, I for one would love to see other people's take on it.
Thanks again for being so cool about me doing a re-spin, and for Miyolinux itself, best openbox system i've tried since Crunchbang went bye-bye and nicer (to my taste) than even the mighty #! used to be. ![]()
So maybe this belongs in the how-to section because I have a temp fix for ya.
This has been going on for quite a while, and likely not to be fixed since it's been a couple years now and not everybody has this issue with other DE's.
This is not a Devuan issue as this occurs on multiple distros at least with the Mate desktop, and doesn't seem to be a Mate issue either, this is Libreoffice's deal.
What happens is, when you first boot up and click your menu to open it and begin to scroll across your categories, the menu grinds to a halt as you pass over any category with a Libreoffice entry, and freezes up completely when you scroll across the office section with all it's Libre icons.
Maybe with a more powerful machine it's not so bad, but I use a common laptop with a simple dual core amd APU and 4 gigs of ram.
Libre is apparently scrolling through it's massive SVG icons looking for the right one and holding you up while it's doing it, if you open up the gui menu editor for Mate (Mozo) and click on a Libre entry and select "properties", it will try to say you are already using one of the hicolor 48x48 png's, but that's not true.
It's still using or trying to use the SVG's. And you changing icons to ones of your choice will not help, period. Trust me i've tried every way I can think of.
Only fix is to delete the SVG's out of the icon packs completely. They are in both hicolor and Gnome icon sets in the scalable section under "apps" and "mimetypes". (/usr/share/icons/)
Once you do this the problem disappears completely.
Once you delete them, the Libre menu entries no longer have any icon in front of them in the menu. But when you fire up the menu editor and check properties of the entries, it still tries to tell you that it's using the hicolor 48x48 png's, and reselecting them still leaves you with blank space in front of the icons.
So I switched them one by one to the gnome icon set, 48x48 apps, and now they work fine, and menu loads fast and doesn't freeze up anymore. This ONLY works if you delete the SVG's first.
This is the only solution to this i've found in months of trying and searching for other people's fixes.
If someone else has a better solution or insight into the issue i'd love to hear it. Before somebody mentions it, updating or deleting the icon cache hasn't had any effect so far on any of the process.
greenjeans wrote:I got the idea I can build any arch, what I need to know is if I can use live SDK on any arch. Maybe the process works better if you're building in a 64 bit environment or does it not matter?
Good question. I don't know. I've been running it on amd64. I have a feeling it's not possible or it's difficult to do.
Oh, here you go - it's called "cross-debootstrapping"
https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
Cool, that's good info, gonna do this then in a clean 64, I have a nice pristine Mate install that I was building from anyway.
So I guess there's no way to do this using "su" instead of sudo? That's one of the things that stopped my first attempt, it's installed on my system but I never use it so my user account isn't in the sudoers file. Heck I can't even remember how to add somebody to sudo, haven't used it in many years.
EDIT: Hey meant to ask, any chance of getting a package list for the "core" and "base" groups of packages? Would be a valuable aid in learning what is and isn't needed to run the basic system.
Okay I uploaded a run, ran one last night and had a spelling error in the main menu, that's what I get for doing this stuff late at night, lol. So made another run this morning.
Haven't burned myself a copy of this yet and ran it as a livecd or installed, will test that tonight, but if anyone wants to give it a whirl, here it is in this folder with the sha256 and a package list, i'll upload a screenshot or two here in a bit. I like it, it's unabashedly a little crunchbang-ish, but less austere. The artwork is all still Miyolinux, I just added a tad to the oem wallpaper (and the original is still there in Wallpapers) and used it for lightdm background as well, and switched grub to a modded version of the dark-cubes.png.
http://www.mrgreenjeans.net/linux/miyolinux/64/mini/
Again, haven't tested everything nor done everything I planned on but this is pretty good I think.


This kind of distro is what a lot of experienced users require, enough to get up & running
So true, more and more I see folks like me who don't want a full iso with a lot of pre-selected programs. I'm really liking seeing all the mini's popping up using a Devuan base. The live-SDK is really gonna kick this trend into high gear I think.
Cool cool, got it all, thanks for info! ![]()
Did a first run fortheheckuvit last night and got a nice 335 mb iso. Don't think it can go any smaller than that without sacrificing a lot of the use-ability that you put into it, in fact i'm adding a couple more small things today that make it a little more comfy. Whole thing sits there and idles at 137 mb of ram with conky running.
I'll upload it and post a link soon as i'm done, it'll be fun to take a spin as a livecd, use load to ram and it's wicked quick.
Definitely gotten me interested in Openbox again and that's a good thing, always learn more and faster working with it.
I'm thinking now of a seriously barebones Openbox system, something without so much of the other DE's parts in it.
Wondering if you can still make something in gtk2 only?
Also wondering if there's a devuan CLI-only barebones hybrid iso somewhere, I think I recall Fsmithred mentioning one at some point?
Replaced leafpad with pluma, just so much more it can do, stuff I kinda need for what i'm doing. Added calculator and clipboard manager. Modded the numix theme, i like it a lot but the stark white background in the windows was a little harsh, changed some colors to dim it some and make the whole thing match the gray theme better.
The Miyolinux-dark-gray window border setup is awesome by the way, nice and crisp while being subdued enough to look classy and be easy on the eyes, no weird borders around the open/close/minimize buttons...just perfect. ![]()
ahhh, I didn't even try right-clicking on tint2 for the menu, that'll work too. I guess it depends on user, i made one for my wife's crunchbang install way back, and she still uses it when she's in that partition, habit from using DE's with a start menu in that corner, i think a lot of people have that habit hard-wired in them from years of windows-abuse,lol.
Thinking of adding a just a conky on/off switch in the panel just to bypass conky autostart/delay issues and such, haven't had a problem using it in your distro, but have used the conky switch before and found it super handy.
greenjeans wrote:I got rid of the update notifier, just didn't like it, sorry man. And while i'm at it i'm also sorry for getting rid of a ton of icons, images, and locale stuff. Really very sorry. srsly.
Well...as the name says...Make it your own! LOLOLOL!
No need for apologies. The update notifier was mainly just one item to help Miyo stand out as something a little bit different.
Yes sir, unfortunately I didn't include much wireless firmware on Miyo...that was one of my regrets.
As to the grub background...the one that I used was a resized version of the wallpaper. I can't remember for sure, and I could be wrong, but it seems like the grub background's image size is supposed to be something like 640 x 480. Maybe someone can confirm or correct that. However, the Lightdm background is the actual wallpaper (same image and size as the wallpaper).
Looking forward to seeing your finished product!
Cool, looks like you put a desktop-grub.png in /usr/share/images/desktop-base, but it's 1600x1200. I seem to remember grub1 required the small image, looks like grub2 is fine with whatever.
The lightdm background i'm seeing is the same blue pic as the grub background, not the dark one i have for wallpaper. hmmm.....
Added xdotool so i can make basically a start/main menu button for the panel, it's handy when your desktop is covered up and you got nowhere to right-click to pull up your menu without first minimizing everything on the desktop.
Having a blast with this thing Miyolinux! Going seriously mini here, probably not in keeping with your vision for it, but what's turning out here is pretty cool. I wish though I had started with the 32 bit version, this whole thing is so light and quick it would be perfect for older hardware. When i'm done with this the iso should be close to making it below 300 mb in size.
I fixed os-probes, again. lol.
Fixed an issue I had with pcmanfm not letting me mount other partitions with a click, it wouldn't even pop up the gksu dialog box, just told me i wasn't authorized. It turned out to be a deal with udisks2, I edited the udsisks2 policy in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/ and now it works like I want it to, you can mount the partitions in pcmanfm with just a click, to edit system files or look into the root folder in those partitions it gksu's you and you still need to enter root password for that.
Updated it fully, weird it pushed me to do a bunch of updates, I did them, then it pushed me to do another big batch, did those too (and got clearlooks-purpy and mate icons forced on me for my trouble, lol), then a bunch of stuff popped up on autoremove, so I dumped them, but later put one or two back, it was very strange. Down to like 854 total packages installed.
Installed Ralink firmware, needed it for my laptop and a lot of HP machines need it too.
Installed gpicview, I think even a mini needs a picture viewer, gpicview is pretty small, nice old-school gtk2. ![]()
Added Oxy2-zen icons, basically old gnome icons done in black, mostly only applies to folders.
Added a couple of custom entries to the right-click context menu in pcmanfm, Open Folder As Root , and Edit File As Root, these are just handy as a shirt-pocket if you do any dev work or just hardcore customizing.
I also have a script that will use imagemagick to re-size images in a folder like the one that's available for caja in Mate, but it's written for Spacefm, I think it should work in pcmanfm too with some changes, but that's for a later fuller version.
I removed Firefox, user might want something different, easy enough to add even on the livecd. I guess Firefox was the only thing that needed gstreamer 1.0 as it offered all those packages up for autoremove after I dumped Firefox, so I dumped them too, still has gstreamer 0.10 onboard, probably need to re-install 1.0 stuff with a lot of modern programs but no biggie. Everything still works great right now.
I got rid of the update notifier, just didn't like it, sorry man. And while i'm at it i'm also sorry for getting rid of a ton of icons, images, and locale stuff. Really very sorry. srsly.
Still got a bunch to do, going to update all the Refracta-tools with newest versions. And some more configuring, going to change the grub background with one of your other pieces of artwork (the dark gray) to better match the whole theme, I guess the lightdm background uses that same image?
Hey, question when you have time: where did you get obmenu-generator from? did you have to compile yourself? The look of the menu itself is really nice, much better than the plain-jane default menu, how do you get it to look like that?
Older post so OP may not see my reply, but FYI for others this guide works perfectly in Devuan for installing the fglrx drivers :
I get mine straight from VLC, they have their own repo and you can do it that way, they provide a key and such. But I just download the .deb and dpkg it in. I include it in all my iso's. Very seldom watch a DVD on laptop though, but some folks do. But still won't work right unless I load proprietary drivers (fglrx on this machine), playback is choppy with a lot of dropped frames.
Downloaded a copy yesterday and tried it last night (livecd), and just wanted to say that I really really like it, excellent work Miyolinux! Nice and minimal, great builder to get a good openbox system up and running, this is definitely going on a partition somewhere and i'm gonna miyo the heck out of it. ![]()
Swapped some icons i like into the livecd environment while it was running, they go pretty good with the black/gray theme, probably gonna use them and a few other MIYO inspirations and roll a re-spin a la greenjeans. ;-)
Again, great work and thank you for doing it!
