It is disappointing, the Mate power manager is even worse. 

You got all that to work on voidlinux? Maybe doublecheck packagelists and see if there's something extra that's helping it work right in the other distro? Version used in voidlinux?

Almost done with 1.0.6 (Openbox versions), should be uploading fresh iso's tomorrow.

I really should update Mate versions, I see folks are still downloading them, and the maxi is still at 1.0.3 and the mini is 1.0.2 I think, they both need a good bit of work.

Don't think i'm going to do an ascii-Mate version of Vuu-do and may have to dump Pluma from Openbox as the GTK3 version of Pluma is kinda ugly (so is Synaptic), which is a dang shame as it is almost perfect in 1.8.1 Mate.

What's really ridiculous is how much work it is to fix theming issues in the mountain of bloat that is GTK3 theming. GTK2 is ONE simple config file.

What goober thought that : 100 times more code=always equals better?

The re-sizing/disappearing scroll bars are just nonsensical, most aggravating aesthetic feature i've seen lately, a regression in useability too.

Maybe I can use the older versions in ascii, we'll see. Maybe fix and recompile.

Yep, with Mate and gnome2 before that, Mate will also occasionally do this with the optical drive if you have one, Mate also throws up an error message when you insert a blank CD if the optical drive is not already mounted, I fixed that at one point but can't remember what I did.

Openbox using gvfs though hasn't been doing it though, it's been remarkably trouble-free about mounting/unmounting properly.

No need for cpanminus, you can build the latest module from that link I posted above and install, then delete the extra stuff. Trizen built that module himself so you know it's optimized for obmenu-gen and menutray.

Replace obmenu-generator script.

Delete icons folder and cache.db from ~/.config/obmenu-generator. Now right click to open menu and it will re-populate automagically.

I did this last night on an ascii upgrade, worked perfectly.

I got a dollah says this is all that's needed.

obmenu-generator will automatically run the -p -i command when you click on it the first time, so shouldn't be necessary to do that either.

You are the rock-a-doodle-doo sir!

Looks like 57 also requires some updated libraries from what's in jessie, so the whole thing may be a non-starter anyway at least for the current stable Devuan.

Ahh I just fixed mine. My Perl version is 5.20 I think but that's not the issue, it was indeed the Linux::DesktopFiles perl module, in the ascii upgrade you must have gotten it automagically?

The Linux::DesktopFiles perl module versioning itself is different from the Perl version, Trizen has a new version (.25) of it as another project on github.

Sooooo....to upgrade my existing obmenu-generator, I downloaded the .zip of his perl module here: https://github.com/trizen/Linux-DesktopFiles, and extracted, opened a terminal and ran commands to build/install:

 perl Build.PL
     ./Build
     ./Build test
     ./Build install

Which upgraded me to .25 module, I then unpacked the obmenu-generator folder and replaced just the script itself in /usr/bin and it fired right up.

Maybe this will help someone that has an existing obmenu-generator install to upgrade to latest script.

I think it is, FYI the last version from August says it's version .99, and now this one is .84, so I don't think we can count on the numbers, lol.

Saw that note about locale support, interesting stuff.

Check my Vuu-do screenies, they all use Miyolinux Dark (and likely always will as they are exactly my cup of tea)!

It doesn't even matter last time I checked, been a while but the first thing FF used to do when you first fired it up, was download about 70 mb of crap from google, bad website lists and whatnot, haven't checked 57 yet, but it really used to piss folks off when they'd go on about how they used FF because they didn't want google spyware on their machine, and i'd point out that file.

Trying it now (just extracted, not installed) and I have to say first impressions are good, it's so much faster than the crappy esr (52?) that it doesn't even seem like the same family of browser.

@golinux: you may have an add-on problem, lol, 23 seems a little.....excessive.

Honored my GTK2 theme (Miyolinux Dark + Vuu-do'ed Numix Frost) right out of the box, I appreciate that quite a bit.

*EDIT* woops, spoke too soon, tried youtube and this browser says it requires Pulseaudio for sound, zero chance i'm installing that junk just to use this browser. Pretty stupid move IMO.

The above part I bolded is 100% true.

Shirase: before it's over with you'll probably have 3 versions of Python. An easy way to test if something is needed is to try and uninstall it in Synaptic, if you get a huge list of stuff it wants to uninstall with it then you know for sure.