Vuu-do 32 bit is about to happen finally, been working on it the last couple days, easier going now that I have a good bit of template in the 64 bit versions and lists of things and such.

First is a minimal Openbox version, may do a maxi for it too, and a mini JWM too at some point. I should have the new 32 done this week and uploaded. Working version idles nice and low like 32 should, around 88 mb of ram with conky and parcellite running, with those off I had it down to 80 mb. Nice and quick too.

I actually haven't tried the default Devuan 1.0 iso, is there an /etc/lsb-release file in it now? I seem to remember you saying had to make one for Refracta...

Okay, tested one machine, Compaq CQ58, about a 2012 model, dual-core AMD APU (at a tortoise-like and underwhelming clock speed of 1.0 ghz), no issues with Devuan openbox 64 bit, mouse and keyboard work fine so far.

Tagging this thread as this is of interest to me too, I need to learn more about setting a system up for other keyboards, locales, and languages.

I have to have my internet radio too, somafm usually, Radiotray is a nice program.

I use Exaile, has i-radio built in and even has somafm and some others pre-programmed, so that's what I usually use since I already have the player for mp3's and CD's anyway. But i'm skating perilously close to Gnome territory using it and from what i've read the newest version is completely gtk3, which may bring it's own set of problems.

Is Deadbeef still around?

Unfortunately that doesn't work. As Miyo mentioned the package isn't even in Vuu-do at least as far as Apt is concerned and the issue still occurs. And it's an outside package anyway, so there's no upgrade to it that goes on when you switch to ascii or ceres.

Trizen posted an update to the main obmenu-generator script like a week or two ago, it may possibly address the issue, haven't tested it that far yet, but in all other respects it works great so I guess we need to try it and see if ascii-upgrade still borks it.

UPDATE: Just checked and he posted yet another update to the script 3 days ago, I love seeing that, this is a great program and is being actively developed right now, here's the link to the raw script : https://github.com/trizen/obmenu-genera … -generator

Try that own-window-type setting in conkyrc, usually that's all I ever have to change if conky is behaving badly.

WOW! Thanks for checking into all that, I haven't messed with ascii myself as i'm sticking with the stable branch for project iso's for now, but it's awesome watching other people experiment with it! That's what it's made for after all.

As far as my configs for obmenu-generator go, I guess you guys read the notes, the .deb package from opensuse includes all the cpan stuff and dependencies, which obmenu-generator does not require to use (deleting things not used gives me endless joy, lol), but possibly it needed them on the upgrade?? Still curious as to exactly why that is, maybe a pathway was altered somewhere and a fresh install re-directs properly?

The conky deal is probably simple, I don't even know why that would change in ascii unless something in xorg has changed. Anyhoo, the minimum conky window size is set in conkyrc and is larger than what my current config requires to allow for expansion, so the area around the text is in fact a square window, you just can't see the borders because it's transparent.

There are also some settings regarding window type and how it interacts with various types of desktop, in mate it's different from openbox by necessity because the mate file manager is drawing the desktop, in openbox the background is on X. These are the settings that may need to be tweaked if something has changed in Openbox or xorg I think, these lines in .conkyrc are the ones:

background yes/no (fork conky to background, never even tried this setting)

minimum_size 300 (minimum size of window in pixels)

own_window ##yes/no (mostly always used "yes" for this setting and do so currently in all Vuu-do's)

own_window_type ## normal /override /desktop (Openbox uses "normal" setting usually.  Mate requires the "override" setting or desktop shortcuts don't work properly.)

Conky is an amazing program, it will do an endless amount of things, but only if you ask it right, lol, i'm no conky expert so I try to keep it simple.

For me, i'm not going to even start trying to build an Ascii Vuu-do until the VUA's release a stable beta, but I encourage and applaud anyone else who does!

I got suspend to work great in both Mate and Openbox, in my case system always had the capability, it was just some programs asking it wrong and others refusing to try.

I installed Obsession, it's just a simple shutdown program for Openbox, but it works great in Mate too, it has a gui but you can also use the cli portion by invoking various obsession-exit commands, I tied them to keyboard shortcuts to make it super easy, so to suspend on my machine I just hit alt+s .

FYI the Mate power manager doesn't do much of anything really, the xfce4 power manager works in any DE and still includes suspend and hibernate functions which the Mate PM does not.

+1. Crowz is nice!

Been playing with JWM myself, I think a nice light 32 bit Devuan version would be great for older machines.

I'm posting from the first Devuan netinstall I did last year, this is my test-mule partition, the original 32 bit beta I first tried, dang thing has never crapped out on me, been through a gig of updates with it, have tested close to 300 programs with it (it has at least 100 on it now), probably several thousand packages overall,  and chunks of leftover stuff I deleted. I have hacked it close to death many times, but still it never fails and it still runs pretty fast, I use it every day.

I REALLY like that kind of stability and toughness.

You know, it's funny, because probably nobody that ever posts on this forum will ever do that, lol, while on the other hand, every system I install here locally for people who aren't geeks and just want to use their computer, will do just that, and religiously.

Seriously, when I see them in public after months of use, I always ask if they have ever updated and they never have, nor have most even installed any more programs over and above what I installed for them originally.

I think sometimes linux enthusiasts forget that not everyone is into computers like they are, 99% of computer users worldwide just want something simple and stable to use daily, not a hotrod project with constant breakage.