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What I don't understand is your sense (or need) to try and humiliate someone asking for help nor to make them the laughing stock of your thought process.
Ah! Now I understand some of the differences between us:-
USA: Uses humor to humiliate other people
UK: Uses humour to highlight some of the absurdities of being alive
OK, got it.
I sure am glad that I am me & not you.
At a quick guess you are American & do not understand English humour, so I will give you a pass on that.
How to start it commando line in the monitor?
What, you mean that you don't wear any underpants when you launch it? Oo-er.
Hmm. How about this one:
$ apt search Leafpad
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
l3afpad/stable 0.8.18.1.11-4 amd64
Simple text editor forked from Leafpad
$ grep ^[^#] /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/josm.list:deb https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/ alldist universe
I have not come across a single mention that any Linux user’s computer was hacked from the network
This memory is from years ago... server hack via the internet. Discovery tool dropped to report back distro details. Then binary compiled by attack server to match profile discovered by discovery tool. Finally, attack binary dropped to carry out hack.
...and sorry, cannot recall any further details to allow you to read further. I think it may have been to expand net of compromised servers.
I've installed and have been making intensive efforts to get to grips. It describes itself as "equivalent to rsync" and is supposed to be native for Dropbox (and many other similar).
I've hit a huge issue: rclone copy appears to have the effect of deleting almost all of my dropbox. Yikes.
I cannot show the live results since I do not want to delete most of my Dropbox again. However, here is the size of the current files. After the second command (which I stopped after a little while) there were less than 1,000 files left. I'm uncertain of the reason why. I had to fix by re-uploading via a browser page, and that means a complete 1.5GB upload.
(In the code that follows I have replaced the actual remote Dropbox + remote path + local dir with generic names; -P==show Progress; the filter file is to NOT upload certain files)
$ rclone size remote:path --tpslimit 12 --tpslimit-burst 0
Total objects: 3.401k (3401)
Total size: 1.468 GiB (1576509174 Byte)
$ rclone copy local-dir remote:path -P --filter-from filter-file.txt
# filter-file.txt
# exclude all office-files
# ODG == draw; ODP == impress; ODS == calc; ODT == writer;
- *.odg
- *.odp
- *.ods
- *.odt
I'm not going to be able to use rclone. I assume that it is something that I'm doing wrong, but my Hearings will be soon now & I cannot afford to suddenly lose all of the content of every Dropbox. In addition, I do not have the time to report the error, nor research the reason.
Looked at the linked FAQ:
Oh wow.
(link)
Q: Does dpkg support merged-/usr-via-aliased-dirs?
A: No. This approach is considered broken by design and breaks many common expectations.If you have a system that has been installed recently (since Debian buster) or switched via the usrmerge hack, you might want to consider … reinstalling. For further information see Teams/Dpkg/MergedUsr
Debian officially only supports merged-/usr-via-aliased-dirs systems. Converting to an unmerged-/usr setup might break the system in unexpected ways in the future, including data loss or failure to boot.
(link)
Description
The main goal of the merged-/usr proposal is to merge the contents of several top root directories (/bin, /sbin, /lib*) into their counterparts in /usr.
merged-/usr-via-aliased-dirs
This approach goes behind dpkg's back, and has caused and do now cause problems due to the aliased directories …
This approach is considered broken by design and is unsupported by dpkg. dpkg-buildinfo marks packages built on these systems as tainted in the .buildinfo file.
Debian truly has lost it's way.
Sounds very intelligent to me, Steve (although I never run pipewire).
usrmerge ... I am staying in the safe harbor of Chimaera or Daedalus until the kinks get worked out and the dust settles
+1
$ grep ^[^#] /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/josm.list:deb https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/ alldist universe
I wonder whether has anybody successfully installed php on Daedalus
Er, yes (though not for a website)
$ apt search php | fgrep -i installed
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
php-cli/stable,now 2:8.2+93 all [installed]
php-common/stable,now 2:93 all [installed,automatic]
php-mbstring/stable,now 2:8.2+93 all [installed]
php8.2-cli/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.7-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-common/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.7-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-mbstring/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.7-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-opcache/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.7-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
php8.2-readline/stable,stable-security,now 8.2.7-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
The process to change Debian repository choices is (from my recall) identical to that deployed with Devuan. I think that his problem lies elsewhere, rolfie.
Hi koala, welcome to Devuan.
I'm going to refer you to the command line from a terminal. The main complication may be that you may need to install and/or setup sudo. If so, how to do that is standard stuff for both Debian & Devuan.
Try the following to see your current repository setup:
$ grep ^[^#] /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/josm.list:deb https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/ alldist universe
$ la /etc/apt/sources.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2535 Aug 17 17:25 /etc/apt/sources.list
That will then inform you on which places in which file you may need to change. I hope that it goes without saying that most repository files require root to change them.
@boughtonp:
Thanks for rclone notice (yup, supports Dropbox natively). Looks like the kind of option I was looking for. Have downloaded & will be using it in anger soonish, soon as I get to grips with help.
Rclone - syncs your files to cloud storage
Added Fri 19:
This morning I spotted a tit (small bird, not certain of specie) jumping around the branches of the large Cherry tree outside my bedroom window. Yesterday my near neighbour informed me that he had spotted blackbirds eating apples fallen onto a garden shed not visible from my windows. So, the future for the acre + birdsong looks more hopeful than I had previously thought.
Those birds all manage to fly across the Channel, so I guess that they should be tough enough to survive a few cold nights.
DropBox almost certainly still has a browser-based interface
You are correct. It does & that means that I can sync a dir quite easily by dropping it into the DB page. It then re-uploads the entire dir (2GB; even if only one file - or none - have been changed). Coming across the debian app for desktop was part of my search to avoid that.
It is my first time using a remote hearing for any purpose and my instinct is to rock their boat as little as possible. I've invested ridiculously large amounts of my time in instigating this case and will run along their train-tracks, thanks.
You will be indifferent to know that I got the suet/fat balls up for the birds last night and, so far, they have ignored it. It was so cold last night that they may all be dead again (in 2018 the Beast From the East killed every song-bird in the acre behind my house; only magpies & pidgeons survived; it is only in the last 2 years that some have visited again).
You are sounding a bit whiny there, Steve.
It's not a question of whose time is more valuable. The Court expects participants to use Dropbox - my first use, and not my decision. I thought that it may also be useful for others if Devuan becomes an option in addition to Debian & Ubuntu. I would love to get involved, and also in lots of other things as well. I just cannot, so put it out there. It's not a demand. It is a request (oh! horror!).
There was one feature only that had me concerned: would trying to install it pull in some of the systemD virus? It looks like I'm going to have to give it a miss 'til later.
@emanym: many thanks for taking a quick look.
I've got *very* little time available to me: Having got my head up inside of a CPV webpage (for remote hearings) & installing my very first webcam I'm trying to finish off a huge set of commentaries on dodgy ASV CCTV, whilst simultaneously setting up suet & fat-ball feeders to try to help local songbird migrants survive forthcoming -14℃ weather.
Sorry if my request that someone else consider connecting with DropBox & asking that they consider Devuan as another OS to align their Apps to was so outrageous.
DropBox has two Apps for users of Debian (deb8-deb11 + deb12). I do not dare install either since I am unaware of the systemD infestation that may attach.
Any chance of our admin asking for supply & info with DropBox?
@stultumanto, @quickfur:
In that case, why not copy the script-text here + location. (TIA)
Government services have enough to worry about without DDoS attacks.
Well, with 80 views in 24 hours that is, of course, a near certainty (if this not obviously irony, then consider that I am a mod at SFS and in mid-December the Stats Page reported 2m queries daily; now that gets close to a DDOS).
Thanks for the Berlios link. Reviewing my dmesg output I spotted that it was a UVC camera (have never come across that before):
[481614.064887] usb 1-1.3: Found UVC 1.00 device USB 2.0 Camera (1bcf:2cc9)
I don't know when v4l was included in the kernel
It turns out to be 2002. It does also include drivers as well as an API.
The v4l subdeck is included in the Linux kernel. Usually webcams use its driver
An API is not a driver.
In my reading I notice many mentions of laptops with builtin webcams. If one of those is supplied with Linux (unlikely, I would have thought) then it would come with a driver that would utilise the V4L API. Otherwise not.
The main problem with cheap devices for Linux is not the driver but the way that so much (so-called) hardware-processing is actually off-loaded to the local CPU rather than handled by the hardware. That is the reason for so much "non-free firmware" in the apt sources.list. The dirty secret that is not mentioned there is that this is actually 'non-free firmware-originally-designed-for-Windows'.
You can see some of what I'm talking about in this PDF about modems & DSPs ("Digital Signal Processing"). On Page 9.3 it states:
A simplified block diagram for a V.90 analog modem is shown in Figure 9.3. The diagram shows that the bulk of the signal processing is done digitally. Both the transmit and receive portions of the modem subject the digital signals to a number of DSP algorithms which can be efficiently run on modern processors.
(DSPs are also used in sound processing)
The point of that paragraph is that DSP's are supposed to be specialised hardware chips contained within the modem. But no - that is too expensive. So instead the modem contains a cheap EEPROM which loads external firmware, and that causes the modem to use the local laptop cpu to run the DSP algorithms. Now, in the 1990s when this was all first originated there was ONLY Windows firmware, and Linux & Mac & all other OS had to go hang themselves. Now, after 25 years, we do actually have some firmware grudgingly provided (but no code, so it is non-free). Also, all updates arrive at Windows first.
But, it seems that my web-cam actually contains all necessary hardware. Hooray!
Hi aluma.
It is simple enough. I've never used a webcam before (40+ years using a computer). Previous Linux reports on webcams are that they suck. I'm having to educate myself all about them. After your post I discovered that the V4L API is in the kernel (did not know that - which kernel was it introduced with?).
The point of the gov.uk site is that CVP will be the specific app that I will need to use for the court (no options), so I used it to make sure that both me & the hardware would function in those circumstances. It also tested the 'cam for me. Then afterwards I thought "Hang on. It may be UK-only" so put the caveats in. Another point is that this is all new for small-claims, so it may well be important to document for the future, and I thought that others may spot the ignorance of a court employee not thinking that perhaps someone may need more notice than a 4pm email.
Note #1:
Both the Amazon product link + img link in post#1 come from my browser history in buying this product. Please report if either fails for you so that I can search out generic links to replace them.
Note #2:
The gov.uk CVP page should be available for non-UK visitors. I'm less certain whether the try-it-out-live page linked on that page will work for non-UK folks. Do drop a post here stating whether either worked for you.
Note #3:
I came across Guvcview, which is a useful UVC-based utility to check a webcam which also has snapshot/record video buttons. It is available in the repository:
$ apt search Guvcview
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
guvcview/stable,now 2.0.8-2 amd64 [installed]
GTK+ base UVC Viewer
libguvcview-2.1-2/stable,now 2.0.8-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
GTK+ base UVC Viewer - runtime
libguvcview-dev/stable 2.0.8-2 amd64
GTK+ base UVC Viewer - development files
25 years ago with Windows I got used to being able to load hardware & have it work without too much bother; usually. Or at least, that is the bright memory of youth. With Linux I love it but, oh my! How often the tale of "only Window$ drivers available" and much wailing & gnashing of teeth in the Valley of the Trent. So, how pleasant to be able to deliver the tale of no-config necessary for, of all devices that normally fail, a video/audio web-camera. I give you: YIMONA Linux WebCam with Microphone (I bought it from Amazon and no, I have zero financial interest in promoting this to you):
This is what happened when I plugged it in:
[481612.084437] usb 1-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
[481612.546534] usb 1-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=1bcf, idProduct=2cc9, bcdDevice= 9.19
[481612.546556] usb 1-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[481612.546564] usb 1-1.3: Product: USB 2.0 Camera
[481612.546571] usb 1-1.3: Manufacturer: BC-230918-K
[481612.881352] usb 1-1.3: USB disconnect, device number 6
[481613.027528] mc: Linux media interface: v0.10
[481613.104459] usb 1-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 7 using ehci-pci
[481613.225308] videodev: Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[481613.334323] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
[481613.388104] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[481613.432439] usb 1-1.3: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[481613.838737] usb 1-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=1bcf, idProduct=2cc9, bcdDevice= 9.19
[481613.838754] usb 1-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[481613.838761] usb 1-1.3: Product: USB 2.0 Camera
[481613.838766] usb 1-1.3: Manufacturer: BC-230918-K
[481614.064887] usb 1-1.3: Found UVC 1.00 device USB 2.0 Camera (1bcf:2cc9)
[481614.113270] input: USB 2.0 Camera: USB 2.0 Camera as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.3/1-1.3:1.0/input/input11
[481614.167675] usb 1-1.3: Warning! Unlikely big volume range (=4096), cval->res is probably wrong.
[481614.167686] usb 1-1.3: [5] FU [Mic Capture Volume] ch = 1, val = 0/4096/1
I've initiated a small-claim in the courts and without warning was posted a link for a remote hearing the next day. I was asked to login at 10am & read the email at 2pm that day (it was posted at 4pm the previous day). I had zero hardware for a remote hearing, and hence the order.
The Courts & Tribunals service has a page How to join Cloud Video Platform (CVP) for a video hearing (the link to test your equipment is at the bottom of that page; [later update]: please refer to note#2 in post#2 if you are non-UK).
Everything worked first time, zero config required. Wow! I do already have V4L2 installed (video for Linux), and that may be a requirement, I do not know.
It states Chrome as a requirement. I used Chromium under Daedalus.
I'm now waiting for a replacement Hearing date.
Hope that was interesting.