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So here's a doozy I haven't seen before, started working on Vuu-do 2 in earnest last night, working for now from my main everyday Daedalus install just to test, installed Openbox, Tint2, Pcmanfm and some other Openbox-specific stuff, logged out and logged back in to new openbox session.
Everything was actually going along swimmingly and I was getting excited, but then two things, one annoying, one weird as can be. Both in Pcmanfm, current version in Daedalus repo 1.3.2
1. No user added right-click context menu options work at all, doesn't matter what you do. The ones that it came with all work though, then next one though doesn't seem OEM to Pcmanfm...
2. This is a doozy, like every file manager i've ever used, pcmanfm when you click on open space in a folder offers you the "create new" option which normally has two choices : create new folder or empty file..only here there's a third, it offers to create a new "krita-5.2.3-x8664" for ya.
Curiousity got the better of me, so I clicked it, and instantaneously it somehow created a 350 mb appimage of krita-5.2.3 for me, and I do mean instantly, like there were local files on it, but I can't find any.
Have searched through about half the pcmanfm source code on github, nothing yet, will finish searching and then try checking libfm source code later.
Does ANYONE have the slightest idea about this stuff? How in the world does something like this make it into the program and .deb package?
I have a slight suspicion the two problems might be related, but not sure yet.
Anybody got a clean install of pcmanfm 1.3.2 that doesn't do these things?
I had never even heard of krita prior to this, never downloaded it.
^^^^The above reply by blackhole is how I have always done offline installs of .deb packages myself. Just got to check that list of depends and make sure you got 'em all, if so, this is by far the fastest way to install.
Got to try it last night (Daedalus), worked great as always!
One question, in Refractasnapshot.conf, both options to use xz were commented out, I uncommented the lower one and used that as that is what I always used in Vuu-do, but if I had left both commented out what would it have used for compression?
Surely that is sarcasm and not a serious question . . .
In point of fact, it's going on and is an epidemic, I have seen multiple instances of people with IT/software/coding jobs bragging online about how they don't really have to work anymore, they get chatgpt or others to spit out the code for them, they check functionality and for bugs real quick, then commit. And get paid a lot of money for doing it.
Can chatgpt or elon's grok write me one?
Hmmm...an artificially intelligent machine, writing code for other machines...pretty sure i've seen this movie.
Spoiler: It doesn't end well.
@ks Nice! My everyday machine since 2014 is a 2010 model Compaq laptop with a little dual-core APU, one of the hinges is broke, and the screen did some weird crap a while back like it's trying to become de-laminated from it's backing, so it turns the whole screen into nothing but weird colors, so I literally have to keep a spring clamp from my shop on it at all times so I can view the screen, lol. It came with 2 gigs of ram though, and I upped that to 4, so we're still rollin' and squashing up new stuff...it does take it's sweet time though.
Wife keeps telling me we can afford a new one, but i'm not giving this thing up, too much sentimental value, and it's been a complete workhorse.
Got a couple of desktops I built circa 2005 and 2008 that still work, lol dual-booting windoze xp and Devuan 1 with my first vuu-do experiments back in 2016-2017.
Ahh the beauty of Linux and not having to buy a new machine every 3 years!
UPDATE: New iso uploaded 12/06/24 which includes grub-pc for legacy-BIOS systems.
Hello friends, just did another small project i've been meaning to do for a while, Devuan-mate-mini, here is the readme for it:
This is not an official Devuan release, nor a Vuu-do release. This is a user re-spin of Devuan Daedalus, updated completely as of 12/06/2024 with the Mate desktop environment. This is a liveCD and includes the Refracta-installer for fast simple install. This is not uefi-enabled.
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Changes in su
- The behavior of su has changed. Use 'su -' to get root's path or use
the full path to commands if you use only 'su'.
- There are several ways to get the old behavior. The easiest is to
edit /etc/default/su to add the line:ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes
(greenjeans: I tested the above solution and it works, just need to create the file "su" in /etc/default/ as it doesn't have one by default)OS-prober is disabled by default when you install grub, explained in this bit from /usr/share/grub/default/grub:
# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=trueThis is default as-delivered and good policy to protect those who need it, but if you'd like to change that you can do it anytime including on the live session before you install if so desired. Edit /etc/default/grub and /usr/share/grub/default/grub as root and change the true to false. The changes will persist into the installed system and it will run os-prober during install and your other installs will be recognized. If you do this post install, make sure and run update-grub afterwards.
If you are running a GPT/EFI system, you should be able to boot the LiveDVD/USB, open and reload synaptic, install grub-efi-amd64 while in live session (thus un-installing grub-pc) and the changes will persist to the install and you'll have EFI grub, and if you've changed the above grub settings in that same live-session it will run os-prober when you install. Theoretically anyway, would love if someone would test this and report results over on dev1galaxy.org.
If you have an EFI system already with other OS'es on other partitions and have grub installed already and don't need a bootloader, just install it without installing the bootloader, then boot into your partition that controls grub and run update-grub.
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In all respects it is identical to current Devuan, I have not "vuu-do-fied" it, it contains all original files, docs, translations, help files, original configs, artwork etc. with the following exceptions:This is a "mini", it contains no browser, office or multimedia programs whatsoever, just the infrastructure for you to build on and configure as you see fit. There are no release notes or manual as this is stock Devuan and ample documentation is available on their site and forum.
Some packages have been added for convenience, these are:
Brasero - CD/DVD burning
Mozo - simple mate menu editor
Mate-tweak - handy utility, gets rid of pesky desktop icons if you so desire
Parcellite - clipboard manager
NTPsec - keeps time correct
Caja file manger extensions - very handy stuff, resize-rotate images, open terminal here, edit/open as root etc.Slight mods to config:
File-manager configged to open files with single-click and include delete command that bypasses trash - this made my work go much faster.
Altered sources.list as main repo has been having some issues, changed to what's been working for me and what I used to build this iso.
Set lightdm.conf to autologin the user on the liveDVD for convenience.Username/passwords for LiveDVD:
guest = guest
root = root
2005, that would be awesome! But I think I have some to work on that are even older, lol, tagging this thread for interest, hope you get it working!
Yep, the man pages rock. I would add that at the bottom of many of them, there is a line that says "See also (various other man pages). And it is very worthwhile to do so.
I have found solutions by perusing and cross-referencing various man pages, that I could not find anywhere on the internet.
The world is not going to end any time soon my friends, take heart.
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and tho’
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
@stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn
The rabbit hole goes even deeper, but there's some sunlight peaking through. You should check out Joe Rogan's interview with Marc Andreesen.
I haven't watched it, just read some of the transcripted highlights, apparently he went to a meeting with other tech billionaires at the White House about AI, where it was gleefully explained to him that their plan was to seize control of the several major companies working on AI, completely federalize them and after that the government would have sole control over AI in the US, and that they would make laws forbidding any other companies or individuals from working on their own AI.
Interesting times. To quote Galadriel:
"The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all."
But she also said:
"Yet hope remains while the Company is true."
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Been some issues with dev.devuan.org for a while now, couple of other threads on here about it.
Here's what's working for me currently in sources.list:
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus main
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-updates main
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-security main Huh, well I learn new things all the time, but have never seen a laptop myself that didn't have a wi-fi key. On the oldest one I have it's literally a small switch on the laptop body.
As I said, on 2 of 3 laptops we have, it's the F12 key, below the little f12 designation there's a little symbol of an antenna, and the key has an embedded LED that lights up white when wi-fi is on, and orange when it is not. And whatever you chose in the last session persists to the next.
I have the last net install iso downloaded (arrgh at debian installer), was thinking about installing, updating, then rolling up a current hybrid iso.
Was thinking it might be helpful for the average Devuan user, an easy way to do some testing and report back.
If using a liveCD that uses Refracta installer, you can boot up the LiveCD and while running, if you make changes to the system in live session, then install from that session, the changes persist to the installed system.
I have not tried un-installing full programs while in a live session, but i'm assuming that might persist as well.
This is why I have notes in Vuu-do that says specifically to re-boot after taking the iso for a test drive, as those changes persist and you won't have a perfectly clean install.
Like if you open up Firefox while in a live session, the .mozilla folder will be created and if you then install from that live session it will be there when you boot into the installed system
It's worth a try, boot up liveCD, open Synaptic and uninstall whatever you want, then immediately install system to your computer.
Edit: This is the way my older versions of Refracta-installer work, don't know if this behavior was changed in later versions, fsmithred could tell you if it still works that way.
On my laptop, there is a switch to turn wi-fi on and off (f12), once turned off it persists through re-boots, and ifconfig confirms that it indeed disabled.
If you right click on the Network Manager icon in the tray, there is an option to enable wi-fi if not running, and disable if running.
Left-clicking that icon confirms also that wi-fi is disabled.
This all persists through re-boots, easy-peasy. Hope this helps!
Hello friends, just uploaded new isos, both a minimal and a maximal version. This is based on the original 1.07 I finished in early 2018, based on Devuan 1 (jessie) and Miyolinux.
There is a metric ton of bug fixes, performance tweaks, and just general cleanup and polishing, plus being updated to all the newest packages in the archive repo, some 300 in all plus a new kernel. In addition I added an appimage of the latest Firefox ESR (128) to the iso and also a database app. The minimal version also now includes printer and scanner support like the maximal.
I have changed sources.list to the archive repo, and you can add more software from there if you like.
For minimal: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … 4-minimal/
For maximal: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … imal/1.09/
The release notes have been updated, and on sourceforge they are the "readme.txt" files that are also displayed at the bottom of the download pages. More info in my original 1.07 thread, and also at https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do/
I did not update the 32 bit version, it's from 2017, and lacks a LOT...I may mess with it at some point, but in any case leaving it up there for now for historical reasons.
Again, it must be said, this is a project re-spin, not a distro
And as always, big thanks to Devuan, Miyo, and fsmithred for making it all possible!
~greenjeans
Yay! Will do, give me a few, thank you my friend!
Woo-hoo! Happy Birthday to Devuan and all the VUA's and admins and mods and every body who has contributed to this amazing project.
It doesn't get said near enough, but I love you guys, really appreciate everything you do, Devuan has been a part of my everyday life for some 8 years now, and still is. ![]()
Good question! I don't know the answer, but for me personally the protocol is I never add any third party repo's to my sources.list.
If I want third party stuff, I download the .deb manually, and install with dpkg usually, then test, if it works that's great, if not oh well.
Sometimes I don't even bother with the .deb, like with Obmenu-generator I just put the executable where it belongs along with config files etc. It's kinda unique in that it only requires perl anyway.
I'm very slow in general to do updates, if it works in every way I want it to, I usually don't see a need to change that.
UPDATE: Discussion of latest Vuu-do development can be found at:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6944
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Version 1.09 complete and uploaded, this contains all the bug fixes and tweaks as the 1.08 isos plus some, it's looking waaaay better. The version change is because I upgraded some 300 packages to the very latest available in the archive repo including a new kernel.
This should be the last minor version change for Vuu-do 1, if I find any more bugs or figure out more performance tweaks in the future i'll update the isos, and when FF comes out with a new ESR i'll update it then too. But they'll all be more 1.09's.
Next up: revisiting the idea of a Vuu-do 2 based on Daedalus ![]()
@golinux any objection to me starting a new thread for the Vuu-do 1.09 isos I just uploaded?
Posting this now, from Vuu-do 1.08-1, the newest iso I just uploaded last night. Burned a liveCD and used the "load to ram" option at boot.
Wow, this one is so much more polished than the last one, it's almost bizarre how fast everything runs when loaded into ram, no delay at all on first open of the menu and utilities and smaller programs, even gimp loads much faster than it does on my conventional install of Daedalus.
If I could figure out how to make persistence work on this (strictly with regard to all the different program settings, saving regular data is easy enough) , i'd run it all the time like this I think.
I uploaded this new version to sourceforge, but I left the previous version up there, I was kind of worried that I might delete it right when somebody was downloading, lol.
Hi y'all, trying to edit my original post in the Devuan Derivatives section about Vuu-do since I have resumed working on it and have new versions available. In addition I am starting to explore making a new Daedalus edition of Vuu-do, and about to start playing around with the Excalibur netinstall iso to see what I can do about rolling up some test iso's.
So really need access to edit that OP to reflect updates and new info/links etc.
Thanks!