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#826 Re: Installation » Installing from USB thumb drive » 2022-10-03 01:18:27

Perhaps you can capture /var/log/syslog from the installer and show here.

For instance use ctrl-alt-f2 to enter a shell at vt2, then set up a receiver

nc -l -p 10000 > capture.log

on another machine, say 10.0.0.5, and copy over with

nc -w 2 10.0.0.5 10000 < /var/log/syslog

from the installer shell to the receiver on that other machine.

The ISO is a s.c hybrid ISO that presents itself both as a CDROM and as a disk image with 2 partitions where the first is a CDROM and the second is a FAT filesystem (for UEFI boot). The partition block ranges overlap of course, as the FAT filesystem is in fact an image file within the CDROM, but the bios is not clever enough to worry about that.

In any case, the log file should give some lead to why the installer cannot find the CDROM.

#827 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] full-upgrade: http://debian.bio.lmu.de » 2022-10-02 20:41:57

Let me drop two tidbits as a matter of background knowledge:

a) the domain name deb.devuan.org, which is the right one to use, resolves into a collection of alternative IP addresses (ipv4 and ipv6). During any apt operation, every server request will use some IP from that list, and then that server will be the one providing the response to that request.

b) the apt system has meta-information files that tells "where" (in networking sense) the packages are. For Devuan those URLs include some forked packages that are directly served from Devuan package pool mirrors, and a majority of packages that Devuan mirrors handle by means of redirect URLs, to be served by Debian's package pool mirrors.

Your reported case for example shows that chromium  is not forked but retrieved via such a redirect, and apparently that redirect pin-pointed http://debian.bio.lmu.de as redirection target. I.e., the Devuan mirror that was picked offered that redirect, and evidently there was some issue with access to 2001:4ca0:4300::1:22 (aka http://debian.bio.lmu.de)  at that time.

#828 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] boot error » 2022-10-02 20:11:39

Perhaps / is mounted read-only due to filesystem errors?

If so, you probably need to boot up with another root filesystem so as to fsck the root partition first.

Or you might try to remount / read-write.

Another option is to mount a tmpfs onto /tmp. Though that might not be enough as it won't allow log files or authority files to be written.

#830 Re: Installation » How many keyrings? » 2022-09-27 06:59:04

Well, "gnome-keyring" is a program, not a collection of keys.

#831 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-20 10:17:46

As the key issue was fixed without needing ISO remake, the trial remakes were removed.

#832 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Invalid Signatures » 2022-09-09 10:19:29

No worries. I didn't think I took offense, but hmm maybe I did. But it is true that I do need to retire off Devuan and that new and more people need to step up and in; not necessarily you of course.

The installer ISOs are built using https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso.git which has been streamlined into an almost push-button state by now. But, whenever an ISO is built, it relies on the state of the repository at that particular time and it's always possible for some update inconsistency to slip in. It is therefore I think the installer ISOs typically need a broader testing than a single person running through it once.

#833 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Invalid Signatures » 2022-09-09 09:20:38

BTW I'm all for testing software before releasing.
But right now the installer images don't work at all, and the fix seems quite straightforward to me.

Great. Welcome on board!
I'm probably doing things wrong yes, and need to retire.
We can rely on you taking over this?

Just in parenthesis: all the installers do still work fine as long as you avoid network mirror backing during installation. It of course means that you'll end up with a rather minimal system, but it's still one where you can use the manual patching (wget + dpkg) before using the network mirroring/access the first time.

#834 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-08 21:35:47

At https://ido.rrq.id.au/download there is an initial collection of trial installer ISOs that need to be tested in a range of settings.

Everyone here who doesn't devalue themselves with the label "just a Devuan user" should grab at least one of them and run it through a number of variations, and then report on it, maybe as an email to me. Refer to usecases.html for the primary use case division. VM trials as well as bare-metal trials are good.

EDIT: my alternate email is rrq at rrq dot id dot au

#835 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-07 23:21:33

alexkemp wrote:

Ogis1975's is a reasonable question to ask.

I disagree: it's a totally useless question.

Obviously there has been some kind of process failure when everyone in the whole community, including you and Ogis1975 as well as myself, failed to notice that the repository key was about to expire.

You don't have to ask about that. Rather you should ask yourself: "how can I help in the future?" and then act towards that.

#837 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-04 22:21:45

The first step would be to determine which, if any, installation use case(s) need attention.

#838 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-04 12:53:33

DandyKenguru wrote:

Considering the situation are you going to soon release the updated ISO in which this problem will be fixed?

Yes, it would be an excellent contribution to the Devuan project to refresh any of the various installer ISOs for this.

#839 News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-04 01:01:26

ralph.ronnquist
Replies: 43

At 2022-09-04, the devuan repository key BB23C00C61FC752C updated at 2017 expired, which has led to difficulties for many users. The key has been corrected in the repository by expanding the validity period, and a new version of devuan-keyring, version 2022.09.04, is available.

It is only slightly complicated for an end user to get that new version installed given that their currently installed key version has expired. My proposed hands-on is as follows:

First alternative: this method removes the old local InRelease file for the distribution manually, and then installs the new devuan-keyring with "lowered apt security barriers". The sequence of commands are  (example for chimaera; change appropriately for beowulf and ascii):

  1. # rm /var/lib/apt/lists/deb.devuan.org_merged_dists_chimaera_InRelease

  2. # apt-get update --allow-unauthenticated --allow-insecure-repositories

  3. # apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated

Second alternative: Anyone uncomfortable with those command line options should rather download the new keyring directly, eg

  1. # wget http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.deb

  2. # sha256sum devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.deb 96c4a206e8dfdc21138ec619687ef9acf36e1524dd39190c040164f37cc3468d

  3. # dpkg -i devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.deb

Further alternatives: if you have your own method that works, then that is fine too.

When the new devuan-keyring has been installed the apt system is operated as per usual.

#840 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Invalid Signatures » 2022-09-03 23:12:56

Note that the full hands-on may also require that the old local InRelease file for the distribution is removed manually, so the sequence of command would thus be (eg for chimaera):

  • # rm /var/lib/apt/lists/deb.devuan.org_merged_dists_chimaera_InRelease

  • # apt-get update --allow-unauthenticated --allow-insecure-repositories

  • # apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated

Alternatively: Anyone uncomfortable with those command line options should rather download the new keyring directly, eg

Alternatively: if you have your own method that works, then that is fine too.

#841 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] lvcreate is not working as expected » 2022-08-31 21:46:57

You don't mention whether(/that?) you also re-created the block device (major:minor = 254:5) as /dev/dm-5?

#842 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] lvcreate is not working as expected » 2022-08-31 00:40:24

Isn't the #PV just a counter?

If there is a difference between Devuan/Debian and those other OS types, it might be a difference in the lvm.conf files. Perhaps you can diff those between systems?

#843 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] lvcreate is not working as expected » 2022-08-30 23:37:57

I believe the next attempt would be to: a) deactivate that volume group, then b) manually remove spurious links for that volume group in /dev and /dev/mapper, and then c) activate it again.

That's on the assumption that the disk itself doesn't happen to contain some old LVM meta-data on the partitions. As you know, LVM writes stuff onto the partitions, and some of its admin scripts gets confused if there are even accidental remnants of old meta-data.

One step to deal with that would be to delete the physical volume from the volume group, then clear it fully, and then add it again.

#845 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Question about few Experimental packages » 2022-08-30 00:25:20

The short answer would be that "experimental is not merged".

You may note that the sources.list point says /devuan experimental while there is no experimental section in /merged.

You may well add a sources.list point for Debian's experimental section but obviously you take full responsibility for whatever package mix you make from that. With the appropriate pinning it should be "safe".

#846 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How to Navigate Back to a Previous XFCE Session? » 2022-08-28 06:57:49

Well, I favour the belief that it is the Linux kernel itself that handles both C-A-Fn and A-Fn unless something like Xorg intervenes and "steal" the A-Fn key combinations. For example, you can easily switch also to VTs without input handlers. Or try:

# sudo openvt -f -c 24 echo "HELLO THERE VT24"
# sudo chvt 24

Doing that leaves you hanging in VT24 without any keyboard listener, but you would use A-F7 or C-A-F7 to "return" to X.

#847 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How to Navigate Back to a Previous XFCE Session? » 2022-08-25 21:56:09

You can usually determine which virtual terminal Xorg is using by:

$  pgrep -a Xorg

and if that says, say, vt07 you may shift to that with ctrl-alt-f7.
Or, if you have a command line, the root command

# chvt 7

will do the same.

Further, there is normally a /dev/ttyN set up for every virtual terminal N. Thus, you may use

$ ls /dev/tty[0-9]* | wc -l

to see how many virtual terminals are available.
I think that is a compilation setting for the kernel.

See e.g. man openvt and friends, and man Xorg (look for "terminal").

#848 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems mounting SD card on card reader » 2022-08-22 21:40:52

I'd say you need to get a new sdcard reader; perhaps that the card is EXFAT formatted and the reader can't handle that.

#849 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » which tool for changing WLAN access » 2022-08-22 09:29:57

Maybe you mean:

# iwlist wlan0 scanning | grep -B1 ESSID

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